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genuswine hoglover wrote:You don't give up two #1s to trade up for a KR.

Even if that KR goes on to become a SB MVP?

Let's put it this way. Suppose the Skins won the SB in 1997 (instead of the Packers) and Howard was the SB MVP for the Skins. Also, supposed that Howard contributed absolutely nothing before or after that one SB (a la Timmy Smith). Would you still consider Howard a bust?

I feel very disappointed about Desmond Howard because he contributed nothing for the Redskins. But I wonder if he was a victim of bad coaching/being on a bad team. At least he went to another team and accomplished a significant achievement. You can't say the same for Shuler and Westbroken.

SkinsFan4Life wrote:

genuswine hoglover wrote:You don't give up two #1s to trade up for a KR.

Even if that KR goes on to become a SB MVP?

Let's put it this way. Suppose the Skins won the SB in 1997 (instead of the Packers) and Howard was the SB MVP for the Skins. Also, supposed that Howard contributed absolutely nothing before or after that one SB (a la Timmy Smith). Would you still consider Howard a bust?

I feel very disappointed about Desmond Howard because he contributed nothing for the Redskins. But I wonder if he was a victim of bad coaching/being on a bad team. At least he went to another team and accomplished a significant achievement. You can't say the same for Shuler and Westbroken.

To answer your question: Yes, he is still a bust. I could also argue about the accuracy of your statement that "he went to another team and accomplished a significant achievement." I don't think SB MVP is that significant. It means someone had a good game, albeit at the right time. One good game is not enough from a top 4 pick.

I would say that a SB MVP is a significant achievement.

Only 35 players have won this award. It's fewer than
the number of Hall of Famers and a lot fewer than the
number of Pro Bowlers.

He played great in the biggest game of his life.
He had a 99-yard kickoff return for a TD and 244 total return yards.

Just having a "good game" will not win you a SB MVP award.

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