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I'm 15, I'll be 16 when the preseason starts.

So yeah I enjoy playing QB, basically the only position I enjoy.

Sometimes when I'm playin football with my friends I'm a wide reciever mostly because I take hits, but it don't really enjoy being a wide reiciever unless I get the ball alot (which I don't). To me, being a QB is fun because you get to decide what happens, and make it happen. And if that fails you can always scramble or improvise and make things work.

So to me, that is the position I really have the most fun playing.

I didn't grow any more in college I was 6'2'' after high school and didn't grow any more...

I wish I had though

CP, keep us posted here - some of us old guys are living vicariously through you man!

I'll defintly keep you guys informed on my success or failure.

Hopefully it will only be success.

I only said what I said because you seemed to be asking for an opinion on whther or not a QB will generally be able to succeed at the pro level at 5'8".

Brad Banks was cut by the Redskins, and never caught on with anyone but he was a Heisman trophy candidate and there's no way that guy is any more than 5'8"-5'9".

You aren't failing as long as you're having fun bro.

Clinton Portis wrote:...I'm a wide receiver mostly because I take hits, but I don't really enjoy being a wide receiver unless I get the ball a lot (which I don't).

hmmmmmm....this complaint reminds me of someone...

Wysocki wrote:

Clinton Portis wrote:...I'm a wide receiver mostly because I take hits, but I don't really enjoy being a wide receiver unless I get the ball a lot (which I don't).

hmmmmmm....this complaint reminds me of someone...

Well the to tell the truth

I hate not getting the ball, which is why I hate being a WR.

I believe I have big play explosiveness (who doesnt believe that?) And I should get the ball more.

But being a QB I have control. Being a WR you have to wait for someone to give you a shot at making a play, at QB its your JOB to make plays.

I can't possibly see the joy in being a WR when you don't get the ball, because you work hard, you run routes, you get open....


only to be overlooked for the other guy.

safety. just hit the guy with the ball really hard, take it from him, and then stroll to the end zone.

hailskins666 wrote:safety. just hit the guy with the ball really hard, take it from him, and then stroll to the end zone.

Sorry, the only time I'm hitting someone is on an interception.


I don't think that will happen very often either.

...Um. You know, I have been a bench warmer for two straight years... You learn to live with it, if worse comes to worse...

Tell the coaches you want to be a QB, if they give you a fair shot at it and you are good enough they will let you be a QB. Size in HS is nice but most coaches will use the guy who gives them the best chance to win. Actually most coaches will do that.

You know, CP...your posts, they don't really reek of a guy that puts the team first, if you don't mind my saying. Mostly, I'm hearing "Me, me, me...I want the ball, I want control, I don't like this, I don't like that..."
I think there's maybe some maturity missing here that every good QB needs.
Tell you what. To me, attitude was everything. I never played, but when I was on staff, I saw the HC pick a guy for second string QB who was origianlly slated for secondary. He was quiet, a hard worker and the team really responded to him. Just playing catch during warmups, you could see that he could get some accurate distance on the ball. He wasn't tall at all, and his weight could be generously guessed at about a buck and a half. (It was a jayvee program.)
He never played in a game that I saw, so there's no rainbows or "Rudy" story coming here...just that it can be done, with the right attitude. He didn't petition for the job...he just showed the skills for it, and any good coach can spot it, if it's there.
Maybe I'm way off. I don't know you. I just respond to what I read around here.

tcwest10 wrote:You know, CP...your posts, they don't really reek of a guy that puts the team first, if you don't mind my saying. Mostly, I'm hearing "Me, me, me...I want the ball, I want control, I don't like this, I don't like that..."

No thats only me as a reciever. I mean I showboat sometimes, but other than that I'm a quiet guy who works hard and studys the books. A QB doesnt make a team good. The team has to work together. I mean sure I want recognition, thats all I ask for my hard work, but if I help the TEAM win, thats all I want.

I'm like any guy, if I feel appreciated by the team, I'm a happy and productive player.A QB is not a selfish postion, you have to work with others. Its not like I can pass to myself you know?

I'm not the biggest team guy, but I am a team guy.

Sorry if you misenterpreted my posts.

Still...keep it to yourself, and act like you've been there. It knocks coaches out.

...and try this, from another teenager who wanted to be a passer:

Always the perfectionist, Baugh set out to master the art of passing when he became the quarterback of his high school team. Using rope, he suspended an old automobile tire casing from a high tree limb in his yard. Swinging it in a long arc he would back off 10, 15, or 20 yards and try to throw a football through the tire as it moved from side to side in pendulum fashion. He drilled this way for hours, often practicing throwing on the run.

from: http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Baugh_Sammy.html

It includes a few of Sammy Baugh's great lines, such as:

The way the story goes is that at Baugh's first [Redskin] practice, coach Ray Flaherty told him, "Let's see you hit that receiver in the eye." Baugh looked at Wayne Millner, who was running a buttonhook pattern, and asked, "Which eye?"

I need to get me a tire....

I need to get me a tire....

Good attitude!

Wow, I just saw the NFL Films show on Eddie Lebaron, and man that guy was amazing.

5'7, 165 pounds!!!

And this guy was one of the most prolific passers AND runners.

There really is hope for people who arent quite 6'0!

This guy is my idol.

Despite his diminutive stature – 5’7”, 165 pounds – he led College (now University) of Pacific to an undefeated season in 1949 and was named Most Valuable Player in the annual Shrine East-West All Star Game in San Francisco. Drafted in the tenth round by the Washington Redskins because of his small size, he soon dazzled the National Football League with his accurate passing and ball-handling wizardry. He led the league in passing in 1958 and enjoyed eleven productive seasons. In 1980, he was the NFL’s Executive of the Year as general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. Inducted into the Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame in 2004.

More intresting Information:

Joe Theismann was barely 6-feet tall. Sonny Jurgensen was shorter than that. They've all proven that you don't need to be 6-foot-6 with a cannon of an arm to play quarterback.

Key words are 1950 something....there is a difference between 5'7 and 6'0. Michael Vick is right around 6 feet.

If you are married to the idea of playing QB all the way to the NFL, then go for it. I was a QB in high school, but I also played Free Safety. Im 5'11, but we ran a Wing Tee offense, that was built around play actiona and Running QB's.

I still think if I had continued, my best shot would have been at DB. But if you want to do something bad enough, i guess its possible.
The only thing is the NFL is getting so much bigger, that O-Lineman and D-linemen are up in the mid 6 foot range, it just isn't practical for a team to use a short QB, and players are only gonna get bigger.


The key is to keep playing, you never know where you will end up.

Who is the biggest (tallest & heaviest) QB in the history of the NFL-? Culpeper?

diesel44 wrote:Who is the biggest (tallest & heaviest) QB in the history of the NFL-? Culpeper?

the pilsbury 'throw boy'. forget his name but he's like 6-6, 270. jared lorenzen, i think.

IIRC, Dan McGwire was 6'8" or 6'9". QB for the Seahawks for a few years and Mark's brother.

Clinton Portis wrote:

Wysocki wrote:

Clinton Portis wrote:...I'm a wide receiver mostly because I take hits, but I don't really enjoy being a wide receiver unless I get the ball a lot (which I don't).

hmmmmmm....this complaint reminds me of someone...

Well the to tell the truth

I hate not getting the ball, which is why I hate being a WR.

I believe I have big play explosiveness (who doesnt believe that?) And I should get the ball more.

But being a QB I have control. Being a WR you have to wait for someone to give you a shot at making a play, at QB its your JOB to make plays.

I can't possibly see the joy in being a WR when you don't get the ball, because you work hard, you run routes, you get open....


only to be overlooked for the other guy.

I didn't get to play offense until my senior year.

When you think about it, WR is one of most joyous positions you can play, even when you don't get the ball.

Think about it...on running plays, you get to pop the guy in front of you in the mouth...straight up, run him into the ground. If the play goes wide side, you get to blindside him. If you go out for a pass but don't get looked at, take out the safety.

Also, to me, the best part about being a WR is when you catch the ball and DO get popped...cuz each time that happened to me I got right up and give the ol' first down signal.

My point is, as a receiver, you have to pull your own weight and help the team before you help yourself. Then it will be rewarding.[/img]

curveball wrote:IIRC, Dan McGwire was 6'8" or 6'9". QB for the Seahawks for a few years and Mark's brother.

Hmmmmm

Primetime42 wrote:

curveball wrote:IIRC, Dan McGwire was 6'8" or 6'9". QB for the Seahawks for a few years and Mark's brother.

Hmmmmm

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