emoses14 wrote:
A. No, i have the good sense to realize that Cousins knows how to stay in his lane. He's the back up who is playing in place of the injured starter. When that injured starter is no longer injured, Kirk is no longer the starter. This isn't rocket science.
B. IF Cousins is undefeated, has been playing lights out, figures out a way to play better against 5 man rushes/fronts, to play better in second halves once defenses adjust, whatever superlative metric rational people would need to make such a decision, then there's an issue.
C. Of course Cousins believes this. Grown ups understand that wanting to be the starter, hoping to play well enough to be named as such by your coach, and recognizing that you, in fact, are the back up, are not mutually exclusive thoughts. Grown ups can have more than one thought at a time. Cousins, clearly, is a grown up.
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D. Just because you say something (the highlighted, for instance), over and over doesn't actually make it true. You do realize this, right? Now, you can cherry pick all the stats you like in comparing the two QBs to support either as performing better than the other, so this debate is largely useless. Only time will tell who is the starter and who is gone. Everything now is just conjecture (sorry, I know you want Kirk to be named starter on the strength of his performance on Sunday and in relief of Griffin last week). The only things KC is demonstrably better than Griffin at doing are throwing the ball quickly (this has an upside and downside, by the way) and not getting hurt.
OldSchool wrote:A. Believing Griffin is going to start later this year when his ankle has healed is a belief you may have but it is by no means certain as Gruden as acknowledged. I think believing Griffin is going to start later this year is probably the minority view because while he may have been the starter he hasn't been an accomplished starter. If Cousins keeps the offense humming over the next 6 games or so Griffin is done for the year and maybe for good in Washington. .
It may not be certain, but I certainly know what Gruden is wishing for after that abomination Cousins just layed down.
OldSchool wrote:B. Cousins doesn't have to be undefeated or one of the leagues best to replace an ineffective Griffin, continuing to play well running the offense is more than enough to be a big improvement to replace Griffin who plays poorly when healthy and doesn't understand the offense. .
Cousins wouldn't be replacing an ineffective Griffin it would be a injured Griffin. Ineffective is your opinion. And I'm certain Griffin on his worst day has never been as ineffective as Cousins was against the Giants. I've seen Cousins play way beyond himself and a bit below himself. He is precisely what we thought he was. A QB that EVERY team in the league passed on for a reason in 2012. He's a good back up, that's it. You pointed out previously that Griffin had never had a game like Cousins' against philly. Well, guess what else Griffin's never done. Thrown four interceptions and fumbled the ball all in one game. I like Cousins, but this perception that he's better than Griffin is straight laughable.
OldSchool wrote:C. We are in agreement Cousins expects to continue out performing Griffin and win the job.
D. Maybe you haven't figured out that playing QB in the WCO is all about thinking fast enough to throw before the break and catch the receiver in stride. Gruden understands this and that is why he has made it clear Griffin is not guaranteed a starting spot because Cousins can do it now while Griffin is a just a project player that doesn't show significant progress if any yet. On two occassions Gruden he has refused to make a declaration that Griffin will start when he is healthy. If Brady, Manning, Breees, Stafford, Rivers or any other QB that ACTUALLY IS a franchise QB was hurt the question wouldn't even be asked but if asked their coaches would say of course our starter is going to start when he is really healthy. Gruden is hoping and probably believing Cousins will continue to perform so well that no decision is necessary to continue with Cousins.
Of course Gruden isn't going to undermine the confidence of the guy he needs to QB his team right now. Please tell me you're able to understand that. Clearly, Cousins needs all the support he can get. Game managers don't win games, obviously, they just make sure not to lose them. Cousins needs to start there before we anoint him Griffin's successor. Griffin will be in the starting line up just as soon as he's able to be.