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Cappster wrote:Try to marginalize the other person to help invalidate that persons argument instead of actually refuting said persons argument.

Cappster wrote:I've got the answer: God is mysterious! Ahahahahaaaa

Assuming that god exists and is an omnipotent and omniscient being, I would say that god probably loves lil Wayne a little more than that innocent little girl who died a horrific death. See, this is where the apologists come in and truly do say that god is mysterious and he has a plan or her reward is in heaven, blah blah blah. If you had never heard of god and someone came to you, as an adult, speaking about the wonders of the sky deity, you would probably think they were crazy. I mean, imagine if someone came up to you claiming how awesome the flying spaghetti monster is and all the wonders that little meaty and delicious flying pasta has done in their life. Maybe if someone invented the FSM two thousand years ago, we all would be walking around wearing spaghetti strainers on our heads.

Deadskins wrote:

Cappster wrote:Try to marginalize the other person to help invalidate that persons argument instead of actually refuting said persons argument.

You mean like this?

Cappster wrote:I've got the answer: God is mysterious! Ahahahahaaaa

Assuming that god exists and is an omnipotent and omniscient being, I would say that god probably loves lil Wayne a little more than that innocent little girl who died a horrific death. See, this is where the apologists come in and truly do say that god is mysterious and he has a plan or her reward is in heaven, blah blah blah. If you had never heard of god and someone came to you, as an adult, speaking about the wonders of the sky deity, you would probably think they were crazy. I mean, imagine if someone came up to you claiming how awesome the flying spaghetti monster is and all the wonders that little meaty and delicious flying pasta has done in their life. Maybe if someone invented the FSM two thousand years ago, we all would be walking around wearing spaghetti strainers on our heads.

Deadskins wrote:Uh huh. One man's satire is another's attempt at marginalization. I guess it's only satire when you do it. Funny, no one else was being "satirical" when answering LPJ's very serious question. I particularly liked the hysterical laughter in your first line. And telling me not to be so sensitive, when I pointed out your blatant hypocrisy, was a nice touch too.

Cappster wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Uh huh. One man's satire is another's attempt at marginalization. I guess it's only satire when you do it. Funny, no one else was being "satirical" when answering LPJ's very serious question. I particularly liked the hysterical laughter in your first line. And telling me not to be so sensitive, when I pointed out your blatant hypocrisy, was a nice touch too.

No matter how I answered LPJ's question, you would still find fault with it as I am heretic that is bound on the southern train to hellllllll.

Cappster wrote:The bottom line is you believe your religion is true based on old and flawed writings that have been written and rewritten many times over.

Cappster wrote:I find not only your particular religion, but all religions to be falsely characterized as truly knowing and being the forth comer of knowledge about a higher power.

Cappster wrote:I am not saying you are stupid or that I am smarter than anyone else

Cappster wrote:(there are many smart people who believe in a deity), because I feel people are worshiping what essentially, to me, equates to worshiping thin air. Do people find value in religion? Yes, they do. That doesn't mean what they are getting value out of is true.

Cappster wrote:Not to mention I was addressing the question that LPJ posted without addressing any one person in particular.

Cappster wrote:See, this is where the apologists come in and truly do say that god is mysterious and he has a plan

Cappster wrote:You addressed me directly in which you said my reasoning was fake, I made no logical sense, and that I have no evidence to support my claims.

Cappster wrote:Yet, you are still responding to me which I guess is to tell me how hypocritical and nonsensical I truly am.

Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Pope Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

“They complain,” the Pope said in his homily, because they say, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” And Jesus corrects them: “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.” The disciples, Pope Francis explains, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of ​​possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation”

Pope Francis went further in his sermon to say:

"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Responding to the leader of the Roman Catholic church's homily, Father James Martin, S.J. wrote in an email to The Huffington Post:

"Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories."

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don't believe will be redeemed, and the Pope's words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

The pope's comment has also struck a chord on Reddit, where it is the second most-shared piece.

More from Reuters:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions - or no religion - work together.

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning Mass in his residence, a daily event where he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.

"Just do good and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."

Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

Cappster wrote:

Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Pope Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

“They complain,” the Pope said in his homily, because they say, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” And Jesus corrects them: “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.” The disciples, Pope Francis explains, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of ​​possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation”

Pope Francis went further in his sermon to say:

"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Responding to the leader of the Roman Catholic church's homily, Father James Martin, S.J. wrote in an email to The Huffington Post:

"Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories."

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don't believe will be redeemed, and the Pope's words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

The pope's comment has also struck a chord on Reddit, where it is the second most-shared piece.

More from Reuters:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions - or no religion - work together.

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning Mass in his residence, a daily event where he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.

"Just do good and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."

Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/2 ... 20757.html

langleyparkjoe wrote:Soooo.. to the simplest form of it all.

Don't kill people (unless self defense)
Don't hurt people (unless self defense)
Help people
Don't take what doesn't belong to you without asking
Don't commit sexual crimes (including children)
If your married, don't cheat
Be parents to your offspring and raise them

Totally my way of thinking and my life's been pretty awesome so far


Anyways guys, this will be it for me in here.

God Bless you all whether you except it or not

Shortly after Pope Francis gave an homily in which he said even atheists who do good are redeemed, a statement from a Vatican spokesman clarified the pope's remarks.

Just one day after the pope's now famous words in Rome on May 22, a Vatican spokesman the Rev. Thomas Rosica released a statement quoting a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church that says people who reject the teachings of Jesus Christ cannot attain salvation.

"All salvation comes from Christ, the Head, through the Church which is his body," Rosica wrote. "Hence they cannot be saved who, knowing the Church as founded by Christ and necessary for salvation, would refuse to enter her or remain in her."

However, Rosica wrote that it's not impossible for an atheist to eventually be saved by Christ.

“Rejection of Christianity may not mean the rejection of Christ,” he wrote. "We can never say with ultimate certainty whether a non-Christian who has rejected Christianity...is still following the temporary path mapped out for his own salvation which is leading him to an encounter with God.”

Rosica's statement was written in response to the many calls and messages he received after Francis' controversial homily.

The Catholic Church defines redemption and salvation differently: while everyone is redeemed through the death of Jesus Christ, salvation is offered by God and can be either accepted or rejected individually.

In his homily, the pope said everyone, "even the atheists," have been redeemed "with the Blood of Christ," according to Vatican Radio.

"If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter," Francis said. "We must meet one another doing good. 'But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: we will meet one another there."

The Vatican's statement seemed to attempt to do damage control for Francis' remarks, emphasizing that his job is more to speak well than to provide an indisputable interpretation of the Bible.

"[Pope Francis] is first and foremost a seasoned pastor and preacher who has much experience in reaching people," the statement said. "His words are not spoken in the context of a theological faculty or academy nor in interreligious dialogue or debate."

Cappster wrote:Just one more reason why religion is a sham.

New Century Version (NCV)

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 This beast stands before the first beast and uses the same power the first beast has. By this power it makes everyone living on earth worship the first beast, who had the death wound that was healed. 13 And the second beast does great miracles so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth while people are watching. 14 It fools those who live on earth by the miracles it has been given the power to do. It does these miracles to serve the first beast. The second beast orders people to make an idol to honor the first beast, the one that was wounded by the deadly sword but sprang to life again. 15 The second beast was given power to give life to the idol of the first one so that the idol could speak. And the second beast was given power to command all who will not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 The second beast also forced all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a mark on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 No one could buy or sell without this mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This takes wisdom. Let the one who has understanding find the meaning of the number, which is the number of a person. Its number is 666.[a]

tribeofjudah wrote:Long time no POST. Hello Again Friends.

Did you know the USA is prophesied in the Bible.
I love this Country, but sadly, it will turn into the "Beast" told of in Revelations 13:11

History Recap:

As the Beast was wounded (pope was captured by Gen. Berthier and put in prison in France), during this same time period or century, another Beast was coming out of the earth (USA was being formed at this time)

Remember Rome's power was waning and going down while the USA was just beginning to become a nation.

Notice how this 2nd "beast" give homage to the 1st "beast"

New Century Version (NCV)

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 This beast stands before the first beast and uses the same power the first beast has. By this power it makes everyone living on earth worship the first beast, who had the death wound that was healed. 13 And the second beast does great miracles so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth while people are watching. 14 It fools those who live on earth by the miracles it has been given the power to do. It does these miracles to serve the first beast. The second beast orders people to make an idol to honor the first beast, the one that was wounded by the deadly sword but sprang to life again. 15 The second beast was given power to give life to the idol of the first one so that the idol could speak. And the second beast was given power to command all who will not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 The second beast also forced all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a mark on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 No one could buy or sell without this mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This takes wisdom. Let the one who has understanding find the meaning of the number, which is the number of a person. Its number is 666.[a]

Deadskins wrote:Why shouldn't He? Jesus was human too.