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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:11 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
crazyhorse1 wrote:1niksder wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:Skeletor wrote:@PFF_MikeClay Gaffney(+2.45 savings), Moss(+800k saving)
That's the number i was after. No point cutting Moss for that savings, unless they think he's done...
Safe to say Gaffney is done here? How many receivers does one team need?
Hankerson
Paul
Gaffney
Armstrong
Moss
Royal
Garcon
Morgan
Stallworth
I's have to think Stallworth and Armstrong are gone for sure.
Gaffney was CLUTCH.......last year...!!!
Moss will be gone before Gaffney,Stallworth also. Royal still hasn't signed but if he does, Banks and Austin are gone. Armstrong might make it to camp
As far as Garcon's deal, full guarantees are only $13.1 million not the $21.5 million. Rest are guarantees for injury. Morgan signed a 5 yr deal that voids to two... meaning he'll have to prove he fits.
I don't see how the WR situation affects Banks. He'll be cut or not depending on whether he's our best returner or not. Just like last year.
Both Royal and Banks are special teams guys, with Royal being a threat in the passing game also.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:20 pm
by Jeremy81
looks like carlos rogers will re-sign with san fran...
also, why are we not on the list of visits from eric winston...so far it's just mia KC and st luis
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:24 pm
by chiefhog44
Coach Mike Shanahan reportedly views Josh Morgan as the "hidden gem" of Tuesday's signings.
Source: SI.com Mar 13 - 10:18 PM
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:33 pm
by Kilmer72
Jeremy81 wrote:looks like carlos rogers will re-sign with san fran...
also, why are we not on the list of visits from eric winston...so far it's just mia KC and st luis
Maybe he changed his mind but I did see this
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -interest/
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:36 pm
by Jeremy81
Kilmer72 wrote:Jeremy81 wrote:looks like carlos rogers will re-sign with san fran...
also, why are we not on the list of visits from eric winston...so far it's just mia KC and st luis
Maybe he changed his mind but I did see this
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -interest/
oh cool...i hope we at least take a run at him
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:45 pm
by chiefhog44
This from the niners web site...
Morgan should come back and the Niners should do everything in their power to oblige. Before his awful injury last season (which was a touchdown grab I might add) Morgan was pushing Crabtree as our best recieving threat either deep or beating the zone. Morgan has the potential to be better than Crabs
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:50 pm
by chiefhog44
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:52 pm
by Colorado Skin Fan
Wow. Are the pundits actually praising the Redskins strategic approach to free agency now? Every step taken has built credibility. Wasn't sure about Garcon originally, but I've heard several expert comments saying he is the perfect receiver for the West Coast offense.
[/url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/03/13/washington.redskins.pierre.garcon/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:56 pm
by Irn-Bru
Based on the reactions I'm seeing from 9ers fans alone, I'd say we made a good move getting Morgan. They are all pissed about losing him, especially when they see how much money we ended up paying him.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:18 pm
by Kilmer72
Colorado Skin Fan wrote:Wow. Are the pundits actually praising the Redskins strategic approach to free agency now? Every step taken has built credibility. Wasn't sure about Garcon originally, but I've heard several expert comments saying he is the perfect receiver for the West Coast offense.
[/url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/03/13/washington.redskins.pierre.garcon/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0
I liked that article thanks. Here, I fixed it a little bit
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... nfl_t11_a0
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:18 pm
by frankcal20
Love you referencing my guy Shane's article. I heard the interview myself. Will make sure to let him know folks on the site are referencing his stuff. He'll be happy.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:52 pm
by Skeletor
maybe it just us west coasters left but just read that Eddie Royal is dining with the Redskins brass at Morton's tonight...
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:54 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
Irn-Bru wrote:Based on the reactions I'm seeing from 9ers fans alone, I'd say we made a good move getting Morgan. They are all pissed about losing him, especially when they see how much money we ended up paying him.
Every miner fan I know is more pissed we signed him then giving the rams more picks... For what its worth
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:13 am
by Colorado Skin Fan
Kilmer72 wrote:Colorado Skin Fan wrote:Wow. Are the pundits actually praising the Redskins strategic approach to free agency now? Every step taken has built credibility. Wasn't sure about Garcon originally, but I've heard several expert comments saying he is the perfect receiver for the West Coast offense.
[/url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/03/13/washington.redskins.pierre.garcon/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0
I liked that article thanks. Here, I fixed it a little bit
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... nfl_t11_a0
Thanks much for the help! First time I've tried to post a link and it didn't work out so well.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:23 am
by 1niksder
Skeletor wrote:maybe it just us west coasters left but just read that Eddie Royal is dining with the Redskins brass at Morton's tonight...
Can't remember "the Danny" going to Mortons with a free agent that didn't become a Redskins aquisition since "the Danny" brought the team.
Might as well call it a done deal
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:22 am
by ATX_Skins
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... wednesday/
S Brandon Marriweather to meet with Redskins Wednesday.
This would be huge.
Re: Official Redskins Free Agent Signings
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:49 am
by 1niksder
frankcal20 wrote:WR - PIERRE GARCON (IND) 5-yr, $42.5M, roughly $21.5M guaranteed
$21.5M guaranteed = $11m signing bonus, $2.1M base salary in 2012, as of today the $5.6M base salary in 2013 is only guaranteed for injury but will be fully guaranteed if he is on the roster three days after the 2013 league year starts.
2012 cap hit = $4.3M, 2013 cap hit $7.8M, $8.8M in dead cap if he's not on the roster in 2013
frankcal20 wrote:WR - JOSH MORGAN (SF) - 5 - yr, up to $12m $7.5m guaranteed
This is really a two year deal based on the reported way it's worded
$7.5M guaranteed = $5.5M to signing bonus, $1.8M base salary in 2012 and $200K roster bonus
2012 cap hit = $3.1M, 2013 cap hit = $5.8M deal voids after two years leaving $3.3M in pro-rated signing bonus allocations.
frankcal20 wrote:DE - ADAM CARRIKER (WAS) 4-yr, $20m, 7 guaranteed
This was the first deal they did after the salary cap robbery so they threw a lot into this one
$7M guaranteed = $3M signing bonus, $700K base salary in 2012, and $300K in workout/roster bonuses. He also has $2M of his $3.7M base salary in 2013 guaranteed for injury only. Carriker has a window to void this contract one week after the Super Bowl by giving back $1M, the window is about ten days
2012 cap hit = $1.75M, 2013 cap hit = $4.75M if he voids the contract after year one the pro-rated signing bonus allocations left would be $2.25M
frankcal20 wrote:WR - Eddie Royal (Den)
Still hasn't signed
Not a bad day and only spent $9M in cap space. Plenty left for the O-line and Secondary, AFTER they re-sign #59
OL?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:54 am
by RG3 Fan
Any FA OL in the works?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:00 am
by 1niksder
None yet... meaning no FA OL have changed team yet
Re: OL?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:39 am
by skinsfan#33
RG3 Fan wrote:Any FA OL in the works?
Yeah, why sign OL? It isn't like we will draft a potential franchise QB that we gave up a ton for that we need to protect.
Re: OL?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:22 am
by Skinsfan55
skinsfan#33 wrote:RG3 Fan wrote:Any FA OL in the works?
Yeah, why sign OL? It isn't like we will draft a potential franchise QB that we gave up a ton for that we need to protect.
I see what you did there...
Seriously though, I know it's only one day into free agency, but I am totally bummed we aren't even having RT Eric Winston or C Chris Myers for a visit. Those guys were part of the best line in the NFL last season, and Houston uses the ZBS. Bah!
I heard we were interested in Paul McQuistan... which I don't understand. He's bounced around the league. I hope Shanahan's not trying to get too cute.
Re: OL?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:45 am
by CanesSkins26
Skinsfan55 wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:RG3 Fan wrote:Any FA OL in the works?
Yeah, why sign OL? It isn't like we will draft a potential franchise QB that we gave up a ton for that we need to protect.
I see what you did there...
Seriously though, I know it's only one day into free agency, but I am totally bummed we aren't even having RT Eric Winston or C Chris Myers for a visit. Those guys were part of the best line in the NFL last season, and Houston uses the ZBS. Bah!
I heard we were interested in Paul McQuistan... which I don't understand. He's bounced around the league. I hope Shanahan's not trying to get too cute.
Trying to get too cute and thinking he could develope anyone was what got him canned in Denver.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:45 am
by CanesSkins26
Per Schefter, Eric Wright signs with the Bucs. Scratch him off the list.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:02 am
by tribeofjudah
ATX_Skins wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/brandon-meriweather-will-visit-redskins-on-wednesday/
S Brandon Marriweather to meet with Redskins Wednesday.
This would be huge.
He was benched in Chicago....we shall see.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:14 am
by Skinsfan55
Yeah, not sure why fans are excited about Brandon Meriweather... sure he was a two time Pro-Bowler, but since then the Pats dumped him and the Bears benched him.
Now if he was healthy, and the same guy from 2008-2010 yeah, sign me up... but two teams gave up on him. Is he really better than Atogwe?