Redskins/Cowboys file grievance against NFL

[Prowl33]

The arbitrator for matters involving the NFL is generally determined by the CBA. I don't know Burbank. But, he's a colleague of Andrew Brandt--who is definitely not an NFL puppet. Roger Kaplan has also been fair, and I'd expect Burbank to be the same.

Is it unusual that we still don't have a date set for arbitration? Seems like this is kind of a time sensitive issue.

I don't think it's time sensitive at all. Why would the Redskins really want the cap space back this year... The biggest part of FA is over. If I were the skins, I would want them to take what we were docked this year, and add it on to next year... plus, they would have to take that extra 1.2 million or whatever that every other team got this year, and take it away from them next year.

Then we could front load some more contracts, and get penalized all over again... lol

[DarthMonk]

I think I found out the names of the 8 men that are actually on the NFL Management Council Executive Committee which punished us and the Cowboys.

1 John Mara, Giants (Chairman)
2 Mike Brown, Bengals
3 Clark Hunt, Chiefs
4 Jerry Jones, Cowboys LINK
5 Robert Kraft, Patriots
6 Mark Murphy, Packers (former player union rep?)
7 Art Rooney, Steelers
8 Dean Spanos, Chargers

Note that the oldest male money in the league (Good Old Boys) is, Brown, Hunt, Mara, and Rooney money. All 4 are on this committee. That's half of 'em. Kraft is also old money. Jones (and Snyder) are punks. Murphy represents but does not own. Spanos had an original stake in the Chargers ... I think.

DarthMonk

[Deadskins]

I think I found out the names of the 8 men that are actually on the NFL Management Council Executive Committee which punished us and the Cowboys.

1 John Mara, Giants (Chairman)
2 Mike Brown, Bengals
3 Clark Hunt, Chiefs
4 Jerry Jones, Cowboys LINK
5 Robert Kraft, Patriots
6 Mark Murphy, Packers (former player union rep?)
7 Art Rooney, Steelers
8 Dean Spanos, Chargers

Note that the oldest male money in the league (Good Old Boys) is, Brown, Hunt, Mara, and Rooney money. All 4 are on this committee. That's half of 'em. Kraft is also old money. Jones (and Snyder) are punks. Murphy represents but does not own. Spanos had an original stake in the Chargers ... I think.

DarthMonk

Yeah, Jones is on the council, which is what makes the deal all that much more shady. This was some backroom dealing by Mara when Jerrah wasn't around.

[Countertrey]

Mark Murphy is a treasonous scumbag? Say it ain't so!

[SkinsJock]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

the NFLPA has basically taken the collusion issue out of the concern here

that was what I was looking for clarification on


I also think that the pukes and the Redskins are kind of tied to what the arbitrator decides and I doubt this goes any further after his decision
no matter which side likes the decision or not

there seems to be some sentiment (outside of our obviously biased feelings) that the Redskins and pukes were more severely punished than was needed

[Deadskins]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

Of course it's happening. May 10th. Who said any different?

[1niksder]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

Of course it's happening. May 10th. Who said any different?

If the Skins aren't happy with the arbitration outcome, they may not go to court with it but you can bet they'll threaten to take it to the courts as it will be a option.

[1niksder]

League requests dismissal of Cowboys, Redskins grievance

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL has tried to block the hearing by submitting a request to dismiss the grievance.

The NFL contends that, because the NFL Players Association consented to the imposition of cap penalties, the Cowboys and Redskins have no grounds to attack the agreement under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which governs the relationship between the league and the players.

Of course, if that argument prevails, the Cowboys and Redskins could be forced to pursue other avenues of relief. Ultimately, the Cowboys and Redskins could choose to claim that the sanctions against them arise from an effort by the NFL to engage in collusion during the uncapped year.

[SkinsJock]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

Of course it's happening. May 10th. Who said any different?

If the Skins aren't happy with the arbitration outcome, they may not go to court with it but you can bet they'll threaten to take it to the courts as it will be a option.

sorry mate - you said - "there is no taking it to court"

I think that might happen if ...

[1niksder]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

Of course it's happening. May 10th. Who said any different?

If the Skins aren't happy with the arbitration outcome, they may not go to court with it but you can bet they'll threaten to take it to the courts as it will be a option.

sorry mate - you said - "there is no taking it to court"

I think that might happen if ...

You quoted me and highlighted what DS wrote

[Deadskins]

I think agreeing to settle this before the arbitrator means there is no taking it to court.

Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening IMHO

Of course it's happening. May 10th. Who said any different?

sorry mate - you said - "there is no taking it to court"

I think that might happen if ...

I said, by taking it to arbitration there is no taking it to court, and you responded with, "Not sure that this isn't still going to arbitration - that's happening"
Time to get your prescription checked, gramps.

[SkinsJock]

that's semantics

let me help you ... if that's even possible

this BS is going to be looked at & adjudicated by an arbitrator

that is just another type of 'court' ...


an arbitrator is just another judge - he typically operates in an abitration court


have a great day

you might even add an asterisk to this effort to derail this - Im done


BOT - hopefully we get some satisfaction here sooner than later

and

that idiot Mara gets a little put down by this as well

[Deadskins]

that is just another type of 'court'

Uh huh, sure SJ.

[The Hogster]

that's semantics

let me help you ... if that's even possible

this BS is going to be looked at & adjudicated by an arbitrator

that is just another type of 'court' ...


an arbitrator is just another judge - he typically operates in an abitration court


have a great day

you might even add an asterisk to this effort to derail this - Im done


BOT - hopefully we get some satisfaction here sooner than later

and

that idiot Mara gets a little put down by this as well

Arbitration is not court. If it were, it would be court. The arbitrator in this case is a law professor.--not a judge.

[rick301]

How's this for settlement compensation?

1. Restore the CAP space. Its a little late for that to really help us fully this year but unused CAP rolls over into the next year.

2. Replace Mara with Snyder as Chair of the NFL Management Council Executive Committee. That will really get the attention of the other council members that were in collusion with Mara.

[Deadskins]

Nah, The Danny would probably abuse the power even worse. I say just neuter Mara, and give the Skins the G-strings' draft picks next year.

[skinsfan#33]

Nah, The Danny would probably abuse the power even worse. I say just neuter Mara, and give the Skins the G-strings' draft picks next year.

Yeah we should get their fsecond this year and their first next year. The cowgirls can have the Gints 4th this year and 3rd next year.

Make Mara pay for using his possition of power gain an unfair advantage over two division rivals!

By the way, when did Mara get so much pull within the NFL? This offseason he seams to be at the center of a lot of NFL decission. Who died and made him boss?

[Deadskins]

Who died and made him boss?

His dad.

[skinsfan#33]

Who died and made him boss?

His dad.

LMAO!

I meant the NFL, not the Gints.

[DarthMonk]

Who died and made him boss?

His dad.

LMAO!

I meant the NFL, not the Gints.

Deadman is still right!

Halas didn't leave his daughter in charge.

DarthMonk

[1niksder]

that's semantics

let me help you ... if that's even possible

this BS is going to be looked at & adjudicated by an arbitrator

that is just another type of 'court' ...


an arbitrator is just another judge - he typically operates in an abitration court


have a great day

you might even add an asterisk to this effort to derail this - Im done


BOT - hopefully we get some satisfaction here sooner than later

and

that idiot Mara gets a little put down by this as well

Arbitration is not court. If it were, it would be court. The arbitrator in this case is a law professor.--not a judge.

Might get settled before next weeks hearing... the Grapevine say the Redskins are expecting to get back between $5M-$8M in cap space this season and the full $18M next season with the deal being discussed. No word on draft picks as compensation

[Deadskins]

that's semantics

let me help you ... if that's even possible

this BS is going to be looked at & adjudicated by an arbitrator

that is just another type of 'court' ...


an arbitrator is just another judge - he typically operates in an abitration court


have a great day

you might even add an asterisk to this effort to derail this - Im done


BOT - hopefully we get some satisfaction here sooner than later

and

that idiot Mara gets a little put down by this as well

Arbitration is not court. If it were, it would be court. The arbitrator in this case is a law professor.--not a judge.

Might get settled before next weeks hearing... the Grapevine say the Redskins are expecting to get back between $5M-$8M in cap space this season and the full $18M next season with the deal being discussed. No word on draft picks as compensation

What happens to the $1.6 million allocated to the other teams? And I still don't like losing $10-$13 million this year, or the timing of it. We need some compensation!

[1niksder]

that's semantics

let me help you ... if that's even possible

this BS is going to be looked at & adjudicated by an arbitrator

that is just another type of 'court' ...


an arbitrator is just another judge - he typically operates in an abitration court


have a great day

you might even add an asterisk to this effort to derail this - Im done


BOT - hopefully we get some satisfaction here sooner than later

and

that idiot Mara gets a little put down by this as well

Arbitration is not court. If it were, it would be court. The arbitrator in this case is a law professor.--not a judge.

Might get settled before next weeks hearing... the Grapevine say the Redskins are expecting to get back between $5M-$8M in cap space this season and the full $18M next season with the deal being discussed. No word on draft picks as compensation

What happens to the $1.6 million allocated to the other teams? And I still don't like losing $10-$13 million this year, or the timing of it. We need some compensation!

Still looking for details

[andyjens89]

Maybe they will give us the Saints 2nd rounder for next year that they lost. Then they won't have to make up any phantom picks

[Countertrey]

If the league is discussing a settlement of that size, that is an acknowledgement that they know they are on the wrong end. Snyder should push hard for compensation... hopefully something that takes a chunk out of that vindictive little girl, Mara...