Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:53 pm
I wish some smart-ass laweyer would run a class action lawsuit against this guy for screwing the fans by mis-managing the team AND making a huge profit 

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What, for you, constitutes a "miserable failure," especially as compared to a "failure" and "mediocre" performance? Since Snyder has been an owner, the team has gone 76-84, or a .48 win percentage.
Is that a success? No. But it's also one solid season away from an overall winning record.
A "miserable failure?" I guess that makes every owner with a .40 win percentage (or lower), what. . . .nonexistent?
PulpExposure wrote:That begs the question; did everyone consider John Kent Cooke as a miserable failure also...because after he took over for dad, his winning percentage was even lower.
Also, I have to say, requiring people call him Mr. Snyder really is the hallmark of a total douchebag.
Redskin in Canada wrote:PulpExposure wrote:That begs the question; did everyone consider John Kent Cooke as a miserable failure also...because after he took over for dad, his winning percentage was even lower.
Also, I have to say, requiring people call him Mr. Snyder really is the hallmark of a total douchebag.
That BEGS the answer: YES !!!
John Kent Cooke was the failure his father always thought he would be !!!
The failure of Snyder is NOT a miserable failure. According to the Merriam dictionary (too lazy to look it up in the Oxford Dictionary)
Main Entry: mis·er·a·ble
Pronunciation:\ˈmi-zər-bəl, ˈmiz-rə-, ˈmi-zə-rə-\
Function:adjective
Etymology:Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin miserabilis wretched, pitiable, from miserari to pity, from miser
Date:15th century
1: being in a pitiable state of distress or unhappiness (as from want or shame) <miserable refugees>
2 a: wretchedly inadequate or meager <a miserable hovel> b: causing extreme discomfort or unhappiness <a miserable situation>
3: being likely to discredit or shame <his miserable neglect of his wife>
As such, I do not feel that such extreme adjective is appropriate. In fact, I feel it is counterproductive and easily defeated in a debate.
Let us define more narrowly what must be meant by failure:
When I use failure in my signature, I mean, for example:
1) failure to succeed as an owner
2) failure to field the best team possible,
3) failure to avoid mediocrity,
4) failure to recognise HIS limitations,
5) failure to provide inspiring leadership,
6) failure to recognise the flaws of his ego,
7) failure to select the best possible person to do the most important people at the top.failure to recognise that he has never been one or two players away from a Superbowl,
9) failure to recognise that good economic business is not good sports business necessarily
10 failure to persuade the fans to believe in his actions and decisions.
Those are a few failures. But they are not miserable failures. Snyder can be acused of running a team with mediocrity and incmpetence from a sports perspective.
He ceratinly can not be acused of, for example,
a) lacking business sense to profit IMMENSELY from a well established sports franchise regardless of the final results every season
b) lacking the marketing sense to reinvent this franchise over and over every offseason to renew the interest of the fans
c) attract enough attention in the media and the faithful through splahsy player acquisitions
d) lacking 'love' of the franchise in the way HE understands it through expensive acquisitions without a severe negative impact on the salarycap.
He is a mediocre owner with mediocre vision with mediocre leadership with a mediocre team obtaining mediocre results. The adjective MISERABLE is inappropriate notwithstanding how some of us feel at the end of many seasons.
He wants to win. He just does not know how.
Perspective Canes. Perspective.
His results are not miserable. The Bungles for many years, The Lions for quite some time, The early Tampa Bay Bucaneers, That Team in Texas (TTiT) during their early years achieved miserable results. The Redskins do not obtain that kind of miserable results.SnyderSucks wrote:By the definition provided, I think you proved that he is a "miserable" failure. He certainly has caused me "extreme discomfort or unhappiness'.
Redskin in Canada wrote:failure to recognise that he has never been one or two players away from a Superbowl
Redskin in Canada wrote:His results are not miserable. The Bungles for many years, The Lions for quite some time, The early Tampa Bay Bucaneers, That Team in Texas (TTiT) during their early years achieved miserable results. The Redskins do not obtain that kind of miserable results.SnyderSucks wrote:By the definition provided, I think you proved that he is a "miserable" failure. He certainly has caused me "extreme discomfort or unhappiness'.
Deadskins wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:failure to recognise that he has never been one or two players away from a Superbowl
He was arguably a long snapper away from the SB in his first season. We would have been in the NFC Championship game if Turk doesn't short hop the ball to Brad Johnson.
yupchagee wrote:I've been a Skins fan since the '50's. You folks don't know what "miserable failure" really is.
Redskin in Canada wrote:Deadskins wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:failure to recognise that he has never been one or two players away from a Superbowl
He was arguably a long snapper away from the SB in his first season. We would have been in the NFC Championship game if Turk doesn't short hop the ball to Brad Johnson.
As it has been pointed out above by another poster, the outcome of that season is the result of the work done by the previous owner more than the Danny.
SkinsJock wrote:I just want to point out that it is a lot easier to accept the fact that we are owned by a guy that almost guarantees a mediocre season each year just because he and his lackey, Cerrato, have little to no idea of what it takes - we have incredibly talented players and coaches but unfortunately we have an owner and his cohort who can best be described as clowns
PulpExposure wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I just want to point out that it is a lot easier to accept the fact that we are owned by a guy that almost guarantees a mediocre season each year just because he and his lackey, Cerrato, have little to no idea of what it takes - we have incredibly talented players and coaches but unfortunately we have an owner and his cohort who can best be described as clowns
Wait...remind me again, who is responsible for acquiring those incredibly talented players and coaches?
PulpExposure wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I just want to point out that it is a lot easier to accept the fact that we are owned by a guy that almost guarantees a mediocre season each year just because he and his lackey, Cerrato, have little to no idea of what it takes - we have incredibly talented players and coaches but unfortunately we have an owner and his cohort who can best be described as clowns
Wait...remind me again, who is responsible for acquiring those incredibly talented players and coaches?
VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock,
I do want to make a point to say that it is frustrating to see such talent sputter out, but I'll wait for that to happen during the season. I am not going to bring the suffering upon myself in anticipation; I try to have a positive outlook until there's proof otherwise.
Bob 0119 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:Wait...remind me again, who is responsible for acquiring those incredibly talented players and coaches?SkinsJock wrote:I just want to point out that it is a lot easier to accept the fact that we are owned by a guy that almost guarantees a mediocre season each year just because he and his lackey, Cerrato, have little to no idea of what it takes - we have incredibly talented players and coaches but unfortunately we have an owner and his cohort who can best be described as clowns
SkinsJock wrote:let's face it we have a lot of issues on the offensive side of the ball and if we get into the playoffs it will be because other teams have not played well not because we are suddenly back to the Redskins team of old
SkinsJock wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock,
I do want to make a point to say that it is frustrating to see such talent sputter out, but I'll wait for that to happen during the season. I am not going to bring the suffering upon myself in anticipation; I try to have a positive outlook until there's proof otherwise.
it must be wonderful to have selective memory and just face each new year with the anticipation that everything will be just fine - I will be very hopeful that we can be better than we are also but I just know that even if we make strides in the right direction, we are so badly managed that these 2 bozos will likely blow it again![]()
DEHog wrote:Sorry SJ, but I’m confused?? You say we have great coaches and players but we won’t win because of the FO.
VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock,
I do want to make a point to say that it is frustrating to see such talent sputter out, but I'll wait for that to happen during the season. I am not going to bring the suffering upon myself in anticipation; I try to have a positive outlook until there's proof otherwise.
it must be wonderful to have selective memory and just face each new year with the anticipation that everything will be just fine - I will be very hopeful that we can be better than we are also but I just know that even if we make strides in the right direction, we are so badly managed that these 2 bozos will likely blow it again![]()
That's not selective memory, that's leaving the past in the past. Every year is a new year. Just because YOU choose to condemn the team before it's even stepped on the field due to "past experience." I don't see it that way and I know of 53+ people who will agree with me come week 1.