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CanesSkins26 wrote:A point of interest about IF Williams is the HC - no player at any position will be a "starter", every player will earn his way onto the team - Williams does not believe in the notion that a "starter" is better - they all have their roles to play and while at the start of the season there may be a QB getting more reps - that QB will have earned those reps and his name and draft position will mean nothing to Williams - Williams is a different type of leader and I hope he gets the job.
Warrick Holdman might disagree with you.
It'll be interesting to see how GW handles being a head coach in his second tenure. It's a lot easier to be a tough as a coordinator than it is as a head coach. I'm not sure how guys like Portis, Moss,ey, JC, etc. would handle GW ripping into them on the sidelines the way he has his defensive players at time. I would hope that GW would also leave most of the offensive decisions to Al Saunders or whoever his OC is.
One of the things that led to him losing his team in Buffalo was him being overly tough and taking a my way or the highway approach. I remember reading that he had a horn (or bell...something along those lines) inside the practice facility that he used to get the players attention. That kind of stuff isn't going to fly in today's NFL. Hopefully what he has learned from Gibbs how to handle a team. The players do seem to like him so that's a good sign that he has learned from his past mistakes in Buffalo.
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... ... there's evidence quite to the contrary, and there has been for years now. For some reason, you just can't seem to recognize that.
Posted at 7:45 PM ET, 01/17/2008
Meeks/Mora
Indy assistant Ron Meeks interviewed today, according to sources, while Jim Mora, Seattle assistant and former Atlanta coach, spend part of the day with owner Daniel Snyder as well.
Looks like another night of sleeping ont he couch with the blackberry for me again. Anyway, lot of word spreading around the league of how impressed Snyder was with Mora. If he doesn't hire Williams look for an exodus of coaches on the defensive side. Joe Gibbs, the players and existing coaches all pushing for Williams; but it's Snyder's call. Mora was not with his agent on the trip, sources said, but with Snyder that's no big deal. With the cash he throws around it's usually a pretty quick negotiation, anyway, and could be done over the phone should he chose Mora as his guy.
One thing to watch in all of this is the role of Vinny Cerrato as well. Vinny is pretty tight with Mora - they worked together in San Fran - while there is not a close bond between Williams and Cerrato in any way. So they'll mull this thing over for a few days, and we'll see what they really think of the current coaching staff and roster by their actions when they name a new guy.
Lots of people around the league think Williams makes the most sense, and they would be surprised if he went with Mora instead - it's not like we're talking about Cowher who has a ring as a head coach - but this is Snyder, who has been a wildcard and a big plash guy his entire career in the NFL, so that points to a more unusual move.
My best guess is a press conference on Tuesday one way or the other.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The first round of the Washington Redskins coaching search neared completion Thursday when owner Dan Snyder interviewed Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks and also spoke to Seattle Seahawks defensive backs coach Jim Mora for a second day.
Meeks was to spend Thursday night in a guesthouse owned by Snyder and have a second interview Friday in what has become routine treatment for most of the candidates for the job, according to a person familiar with the selection process. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the Redskins haven't publicly stated the names of any candidates.
Mora, the former Atlanta Falcons head coach, spent the night at the guesthouse after a first interview on Wednesday after Snyder sent a plane to bring him from Seattle. Another candidate who has yet to be identified spent last Friday night at the guesthouse in between sessions with Snyder on Friday and Saturday.
Snyder has remained in the Washington area during the entire coaching process, conducting each formal interview at his home in Potomac, Md., after the candidate is flown to Washington on one of his private planes.
Meeks brings to five the number of interviewed candidates, including Tennessee Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and Redskins assistant Gregg Williams. Williams has met with the owner on four occasions, although some sessions have been less formal than others.
Once the second interview with Meeks is completed, the person familiar with the process said Snyder will spend Friday evaluating the candidates. The owner will then decide whether to invite any of the five back for another interview or whether to pursue other names on his list.
One of those names is Indianapolis assistant Jim Caldwell, but Colts owner Jim Irsay said Thursday night Caldwell would replace head coach Tony Dungy if Dungy decides to retire.
The Redskins are seeking a replacement for Joe Gibbs, who resigned last week.
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UK Skins Fan wrote:Now we know it won't be Mora....
PigSkin wrote:UK Skins Fan wrote:Now we know it won't be Mora....
A sign that Holmgren's on his way out?
Whether Holmgren stay or goes, I think Mora has a safe job in Seattle, and he may actually have been telling the truth when he said that he didn't want to move his family again. Having said that, I'm sure that he would have stayed in the running if he really thought he had a shot at the job here. If only for bargaining power with his current employers. Think about it - no better way to get a raise than to get yourself linked with a job for Dan Snyder. But if you know that you're really not a runner in the race, then you may as well back out right now, because your bluff could get called at any moment.PigSkin wrote:UK Skins Fan wrote:Now we know it won't be Mora....
A sign that Holmgren's on his way out?
A sign that Holmgren's on his way out?
CanesSkins26 wrote:John Clayton on ESPN is reporting that the Skins are interested in talking to Leslie Frazier, the defensive coordinator from the Vikings, about the HC job. Looks like they may want to interview some more candidates before making a decision.
SkinsFreak wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:John Clayton on ESPN is reporting that the Skins are interested in talking to Leslie Frazier, the defensive coordinator from the Vikings, about the HC job. Looks like they may want to interview some more candidates before making a decision.
Looks like they're looking for some assistants, not head coaches.
SkinsFreak wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:John Clayton on ESPN is reporting that the Skins are interested in talking to Leslie Frazier, the defensive coordinator from the Vikings, about the HC job. Looks like they may want to interview some more candidates before making a decision.
Looks like they're looking for some assistants, not head coaches.
CanesSkins26 wrote:SkinsFreak wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:John Clayton on ESPN is reporting that the Skins are interested in talking to Leslie Frazier, the defensive coordinator from the Vikings, about the HC job. Looks like they may want to interview some more candidates before making a decision.
Looks like they're looking for some assistants, not head coaches.
No they likely aren't. NFL hiring rules do not allow you to just hire an opposing team's DC to be your coordinator. The other team can block the move unless compensation is given in the form of draft picks. Considering we have Gray and Blache, I highly doubt that the Skins would be willing to give away multiple draft picks to hire someone else's DC to be our DC under Gregg Williams. And no, giving someone a creative title such as Assistant Coach-Defense doesn't bypass the rule. The only way to hire a coordinator under contract with another team without giving up draft picks is to hire that person to be your Head Coach.
CanesSkins26 wrote:SkinsFreak wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:John Clayton on ESPN is reporting that the Skins are interested in talking to Leslie Frazier, the defensive coordinator from the Vikings, about the HC job. Looks like they may want to interview some more candidates before making a decision.
Looks like they're looking for some assistants, not head coaches.
No they likely aren't. NFL hiring rules do not allow you to just hire an opposing team's DC to be your coordinator. The other team can block the move unless compensation is given in the form of draft picks. Considering we have Gray and Blache, I highly doubt that the Skins would be willing to give away multiple draft picks to hire someone else's DC to be our DC under Gregg Williams. And no, giving someone a creative title such as Assistant Coach-Defense doesn't bypass the rule. The only way to hire a coordinator under contract with another team without giving up draft picks is to hire that person to be your Head Coach.
SkinsJock wrote:There are some here who are going to be surprised at Snyder's choice even though that seems very obvious!
It seems to me that those who seem to know what is going on are kind of assuming that Williams is going to be the HC and Snyder is just trying to make sure that the Redskins make the most out of this whole process.
I'm kind of enjoying it but at the same time I just wish it was all over with.
I'd be surprised if he makes a choice this month!
Well, he can choose stability or change...again!SkinsJock wrote:I'd be very surprised if Snyder does not make an announcement about this in the next few days - I don't know how you can think there is anything to be gained by waiting another week, let alone 10 more days
SkinsFreak wrote:Yes, technically you both are correct. I just can't believe Leslie Frazier would be a serious candidate. And again, they're interviewing all defensive guys. Are we really to believe one of those guys would be selected over Williams? I seriously doubt it, and that's my point.
Williams still in limbo
By Ryan O'Halloran
January 20, 2008
Now in its 12th day, the Washington Redskins' coaching search is not being held up by Gregg Williams' apprehension about replacing Joe Gibbs.
According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Williams "absolutely" wants to replace Joe Gibbs, who retired on Jan. 8.
Williams has been left in limbo by owner Dan Snyder and vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato, the lone two individuals involved in identifying candidates and interviewing them at Snyder's Potomac, Md., residence.
Since Williams last officially met with Snyder, Jim Mora and Ron Meeks have been interviewed and a mystery candidate also remains in play. Mora withdrew from consideration Friday to remain with the Seattle Seahawks.
Snyder told the coaching staff after Gibbs' announcement that he wanted to wrap up the search in two weeks. If he holds to that timetable, a hire would be finalized on Tuesday or Wednesday. If Snyder opts to interview a candidate on a team that plays today, it's unlikely the two-week goal would be met.
If Williams is ultimately the choice of Snyder — whose pursuit of Jim Mora proved fruitless and desire for Bill Cowher never got started — he will have to make some key decisions.
• What is Al Saunders' status?
The associate head coach-offense has one year remaining on his contract at $2 million. A report last weekend of possible tension between Williams and Saunders was unfounded. As one source pointed out, Saunders appeared at and did publicity for Williams' charity golf tournament last summer in Missouri.
But Snyder/Cerrato may demand a change on offense, taking the decision out of Williams' hands.
• Who will replace him as the defensive boss?
Defensive line coach Greg Blache holds the coordinator title and has experience in the position with the Chicago Bears. Secondary coach Jerry Gray was Buffalo's coordinator before coming to the Redskins in 2006.
A source close to Blache said he would like to "stay put" in his current position so a title change to assistant head coach-defense and Gray becoming defensive coordinator is the most likely scenario.
• What happens to the rest of the offensive staff?
The entire group is under contract except for running backs coach Earnest Byner, two team sources said. The statuses of longtime Gibbs allies Joe Bugel, Don Breaux, Jack Burns and Rennie Simmons would all need to be addressed. Bugel and Breaux have expressed interest in returning.
• Does the front office structure change?
Cerrato isn't going anywhere — he's running the interviews. But will Williams have the freedom to add an ally to personnel department who could serve as a conduit between him and the front office. Former Tennessee general manager Floyd Reese would be an ideal choice because of his history with Williams but he's probably too big of a name to be approved.
If Williams doesn't get the job, Snyder has to decide whether to fire Williams (and pay him around $2.4 million) or force him to resign.