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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:06 am
by SkinsJock
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I am a little surprised by all the fuss




I know what you mean but 2 huge issues popped up during yesterdays game. These 2 issues have plagued the second tenure of Joe Gibbs.

1. Piss poor clock management.
2. Playing scared.

People are frustrated. This offense is great but I think Gibbs is holding it back. Maybe he doesn't feel that Jason is capable of taking more of the offense onto his shoulders. I think he proved last night that he's more than capable. In a pressure situation he delivered the ball where it needed to be while being pressured. Imagine how many points we would have put up in the 3rd quarter if Jason was allowed to throw under even calmer situations?


I agree Chris - I just do not feel that we have indicated in the last 3 games that we are capable of both stopping the other team or going down and scoring the points that take the other team out of their comfort zone - we have now faced 3 QBs that played badly and we only won 2 games - I do not think that is so bad BUT I totally agree that we need to get a lot better and I think we have the players to do that - the coaches need to do their jobs better and that includes everything about time management to play calling and game planning.

I was also very surprised that whoever was calling the plays got so conservative against that defense - the Giants strength during the game was in the front so why not try and open it up a little - why were we always 2nd and 7 or 2nd and 8?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:09 am
by SkinsJock
I will also add that I am so glad that Eli is not our QB :wink: - that kid hasn't got a chance of becoming a decent QB in this league.

The Last 4 Plays

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:28 am
by DarthMonk
WHAT WAS THE BIG HURRY??

If the Pats are down 7 and get 1st and goal at the 1.5 yard line with A MINUTE TO GO do they rush up and spike? No way.

This would've been a nice thing for JC to hear in his helmet: "Nice throw Jason. Relax. Spread 'em out and run the sneak." That last line would be in Redskin-ese of course but WTF was the big hurry? There was a TON of time and the Giants had 3rd and long personnel in the game. What JC did hear in his helmet was to hurry up and spike it (postgame interview).

So now there's what - 51 seconds or so. I'm not thrilled with the next play call but I don't like to second guess that stuff too much. After the incomplete there's still A TON OF TIME. Heck, we could've huddled up twice.

I suppose we could argue about the last 2 plays 'till the cows come home but did anyone see the left side of the line on the very last play? It was essentially 70chip and two guys on the end pretty much never got out of their stances. Could that be 'cause we were RUSHING TO GET OFF A 4TH DOWN PLAY WITH NEARLY 30 FRICKIN' SECONDS LEFT??

JC was pretty awesome on the last drive. The coaching staff (Gibbs?) panicked.

DarthMonk

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:31 am
by SKINFAN
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I am a little surprised by all the fuss




I know what you mean but 2 huge issues popped up during yesterdays game. These 2 issues have plagued the second tenure of Joe Gibbs.

1. Piss poor clock management.
2. Playing scared.



I agree on #2

we take shots downfield, but we don't take enough shots, it seemed we're content in getting 3 instead of 7... But when we have to get 7 the guys looked great but it seemed like something is holding them back. Again the defense cannot carry us like that, you can only bend so much till you break. The offense IMO looked tentative, we did not have the killer instinct to go and close it out.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:33 am
by everydayAskinsday
I know this has probaly already been mentioned but I really dont have the time to look through all the pages in this thread but I saw mentioned earlier in post that was locked that McInstosh might be hurt? is there any truth to that.. I didnt notice it during the game

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:44 am
by Redskin in Canada
Much has been said about our 2 - 1 record and the potential meaning of it for the rest of the season. Why? :hmm:

As far as I am concerned, we are only three plays away of being -anywhere between 3 - 0 and 0 - 3. :roll:

No, I do not feel the record means much. The -fact- of the matter is that we are playing close enough to win or lose tight games against other -equally- mediocre teams. So, what is our common denominator in those games?

a) Playing with a conservative philosophy to avoid making mistakes?

b) Playing up to the level and intensity of our opponent?

c) Being just another mediocre team?

d) Injuries and key deficiencies at the OL and DL positions?

e) Our QB being brought up slowly and he is not just ready in terms of release and timing with his receivers yet?

My view? Just about a bit of ALL of the above. I am still furious and disappointed.

The mood of many could change quickly if we win a couple of games. After all, some fans have short memories. However, the fact of the matter is that Detroit is a BETTER team than NY. The fact oif the matter is that Detroit's defense is BETTER than NYG. The fact of the matter is that Calvin is BETTER than Plaxico. The fact of the matter is that Kitna is BETTER than Eli. Detroit is a team moving in the right direction (finally). I would not take that game for granted AT ALL.

We have not made sufficient progress to move ahead of others in the NFC East. The Eagles are back. The Pukes are the leaders and look like they might take the division. The Giants were given a free opportunity to remain contenders by us. And we ... oh yes. We will remain making games close enough to reach a 0.500 record by the end of the season if all goes well.

No, I am not impressed by our 2 - 1 record. It means squat to me. It is not time to declare disaster but it is time to make a serious and realistic review assessment for our expectations this season.

I will still enjoy and suffer with my team all the way though. Hail!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:30 am
by VetSkinsFan
Since I've had a nite to think:

A huge factor that has been neglected in this thread (for the most part) is the right guard and right tackle. With these two not up to par, it is our weakest link. We COULD NOT run to the right, which trains the LB to the left; the only place we ran. This SIGNIFICANTLY affects our game plan when we're a running team, such as JG likes to be. We did great with Kendall IMO, but we need time for the right side to gel up, IF they can. If, and only if, we can shore up that right side, we can get our offense back on track. I don't think JG knows how to call a passing offense.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:52 am
by DEHog
VetSkinsFan wrote:Since I've had a nite to think:

A huge factor that has been neglected in this thread (for the most part) is the right guard and right tackle. With these two not up to par, it is our weakest link. We COULD NOT run to the right, which trains the LB to the left; the only place we ran. This SIGNIFICANTLY affects our game plan when we're a running team, such as JG likes to be. We did great with Kendall IMO, but we need time for the right side to gel up, IF they can. If, and only if, we can shore up that right side, we can get our offense back on track. I don't think JG knows how to call a passing offense.

What?? You've been wathing football for the past 20 years and you don't think JG knows how to call a passing offense. You said AS was calling the plays and Gibbs only called the last 4???

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:18 pm
by Redskin in Canada
SkinsJock wrote:let's be honest - we are not a very good team yet we are 2-1 ...
We agree. :evil:

Take a break Jock. There are FAR more important things going on than watch our team struggle again to reach 0.500 this season. Take for example:

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24687

If anything, it will definitely help all of us with our NFL anger management issues. :wink:

Good luck to those Wallabies of yours. :up:

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:23 pm
by SKINFAN
CHANGE OF DIRECTION ANYONE?
Personally, I'm tired of writing about and discussing what could've been, It's growing pains for both JC and JG.. Don't get me wrong, I nearly broke a table, almost slashed my projector screen after this game was over but after a few more beers I finally cvalmed down. Tough loss to a sub-level team.. This sux, BUT HEY, DID WE FORGET WHO WE WERE WATCHING???? THESE ARE THE SKINS AFTER ALL.


POSITIVE PLAYS:

INT's...we finally got some.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:25 pm
by HOGETTE MX
ike075 wrote:Why did we lose? Why have the past few years been so painful? I have finally solved this riddle….with all due respect to coach Joe Gibbs but…HE HAS BECOME A CHICKEN!!!!!!!!

Look over all the plays over the past couple of years and why Brunnell was kept in as QB for sooooo long instead of Ramsey. Time and time again he chooses the play that will least likely have the potential in a turn over. (oh and those that might want to argue the throws to moss down field…..a couple of shots down field does not make an aggressive and attacking offence)

No convinced?

The first game that we won by a field goal….why did they not try one more running play instead of such a long field goal? After the game coach Gobbles admitted that the field goal was the safest option. If we “risked” getting a little closer we could have turned over the ball but at least a field goal the chances were more that we would just miss.

Last week we almost attempted a field goal instead of the obvious passing playing because Coach Gobbles felt a field goal and getting 3 points were safer then the risk of turning over the ball? My 2yr old son even turned to me and said “Dad, why don’t they at least try one or two throwing plays into the endzone first”

Finally Coach Gobbles this week decided to run conservative the entire second half until we were down by 7 and forced to be aggressive to have a shot at winning. Coach Gobbles does understand the concept of stabbing the dagger into the heart of the other team and as they say in Mortal Kombat “Finish THEM!”

The one thing we don’t truly know is if it is Gibbs or Saunders that is doing the final play calling but if it is Saunders then it is Coach Gibbs responsibility to tell Saunders to stop being such a chicken.

And those that want to blame the D….3 in a row 3 and outs……best way to keep a team from scoring is generally KEEPING THEM OFF THE FIELD!!!!! After a whopping 34 yards the entire second half by the offence….I imagine the D was a tad tired.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! :thump:


Ikester -drinking



Hey... who is running this offence anyway? Is it Al Saunders, Joe Gibbs or the guy from the cover of MAD magazine? :P

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:29 pm
by HOGETTE MX
ike075 wrote:Why did we lose? Why have the past few years been so painful? I have finally solved this riddle….with all due respect to coach Joe Gibbs but…HE HAS BECOME A CHICKEN!!!!!!!!

Look over all the plays over the past couple of years and why Brunnell was kept in as QB for sooooo long instead of Ramsey. Time and time again he chooses the play that will least likely have the potential in a turn over. (oh and those that might want to argue the throws to moss down field…..a couple of shots down field does not make an aggressive and attacking offence)

Not convinced?

The first game that we won by a field goal….why did they not try one more running play instead of such a long field goal? After the game coach Gobbles admitted that the field goal was the safest option. If we “risked” getting a little closer we could have turned over the ball but at least a field goal the chances were more that we would just miss.

Last week we almost attempted a field goal instead of the obvious passing playing because Coach Gobbles felt a field goal and getting 3 points were safer then the risk of turning over the ball? My 2yr old son even turned to me and said “Dad, why don’t they at least try one or two throwing plays into the endzone first”

Finally Coach Gobbles this week decided to run conservative the entire second half until we were down by 7 and forced to be aggressive to have a shot at winning. Coach Gobbles does understand the concept of stabbing the dagger into the heart of the other team and as they say in Mortal Kombat “Finish THEM!”

The one thing we don’t truly know is if it is Gibbs or Saunders that is doing the final play calling but if it is Saunders then it is Coach Gibbs responsibility to tell Saunders to stop being such a chicken.

And those that want to blame the D….3 in a row 3 and outs……best way to keep a team from scoring is generally KEEPING THEM OFF THE FIELD!!!!! After a whopping 34 yards the entire second half by the offence….I imagine the D was a tad tired.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! :thump:


Ikester -drinking



Hey... who is running this offence anyway? Is it Al Saunders, Joe Gibbs or the guy from the cover of MAD magazine? :D

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:38 pm
by everydayAskinsday
our coaching staff doesnt know how to finish teams off.. the only one I dont blame is Saunders because I dont feel like that 2nd half was dictated by him.. I understand what Gibbs was trying to do with a 2 touchdown lead but teams know hes going to do this and adjust there game plans accordingly.. its almost as if Gibbs is too nice of a guy and doesnt want to run up the score on anyone .. hes so used to the NFC EAST of old where the games where smashmouth nailbiters and alot of the times they still are but he doesnt need to make sure it becomes that kind of game when we could of blown them wide open ..

and we become very predictable on D too.. Gregg goes right to that Prevent D and cover 2 BS and teams just start to throw on us all half.. which then opens up there running game and we start getting gashed for 7 yards a run which gives them 2 and shorts and 3rd and shorts and BAM all of a sudden we find we dont have the game as in hand as we thought we did .. it gets so frustrating.. its sad that when we get a 2 TD lead Im just as worried as if it were tied up

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:46 pm
by everydayAskinsday
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270923028


The Washington Redskins took an early lead in this game, but this team has no "killer" instinct. Despite three Washington turnovers and plenty of opportunities, offensive coordinator Al Saunders refused to take the handcuffs off QB Jason Campbell. The Redskins never opened up the passing game until it was too late. Campbell showed great poise in the first half, but then in the second half, the Redskins had way too many third-and-long situations because they would not throw the ball on first and second down. When the Redskins needed to crank up the passing game late, it just was not there. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were completely neutralized in this game. That's not just Campbell's fault, Saunders and the offensive coaches need to shoulder a big portion of the blame as well. This offensive is way too conservative. With three shots inside the 3-yard-line, Clinton Portis is on the bench and they only attempt one pass. Until they open up the offense and turn Campbell loose, the Redskins are going to be in close games every weekend.
-- Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc.

just saw this as well and while not a big believer in what ESPN has to say I do have to agree with the assesment.. pretty much nailed it on the head although i personally feel that it was Gibbs who handcuffed Campbell and not Saunders.. Gibbs is way to conservative

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:59 pm
by GSPODS
everydayAskinsday wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270923028


The Washington Redskins took an early lead in this game, but this team has no "killer" instinct. Despite three Washington turnovers and plenty of opportunities, offensive coordinator Al Saunders refused to take the handcuffs off QB Jason Campbell. The Redskins never opened up the passing game until it was too late. Campbell showed great poise in the first half, but then in the second half, the Redskins had way too many third-and-long situations because they would not throw the ball on first and second down. When the Redskins needed to crank up the passing game late, it just was not there. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were completely neutralized in this game. That's not just Campbell's fault, Saunders and the offensive coaches need to shoulder a big portion of the blame as well. This offensive is way too conservative. With three shots inside the 3-yard-line, Clinton Portis is on the bench and they only attempt one pass. Until they open up the offense and turn Campbell loose, the Redskins are going to be in close games every weekend.
-- Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc.

just saw this as well and while not a big believer in what ESPN has to say I do have to agree with the assesment.. pretty much nailed it on the head although i personally feel that it was Gibbs who handcuffed Campbell and not Saunders.. Gibbs is way to conservative


Great. More "expert" analysis. It would be lovely if any of these so-called "experts" would ever write an article with some actual depth or inside knowledge. This drivel could have been written by a 3rd grader.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:08 pm
by everydayAskinsday
GSPODS wrote:
everydayAskinsday wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270923028


The Washington Redskins took an early lead in this game, but this team has no "killer" instinct. Despite three Washington turnovers and plenty of opportunities, offensive coordinator Al Saunders refused to take the handcuffs off QB Jason Campbell. The Redskins never opened up the passing game until it was too late. Campbell showed great poise in the first half, but then in the second half, the Redskins had way too many third-and-long situations because they would not throw the ball on first and second down. When the Redskins needed to crank up the passing game late, it just was not there. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were completely neutralized in this game. That's not just Campbell's fault, Saunders and the offensive coaches need to shoulder a big portion of the blame as well. This offensive is way too conservative. With three shots inside the 3-yard-line, Clinton Portis is on the bench and they only attempt one pass. Until they open up the offense and turn Campbell loose, the Redskins are going to be in close games every weekend.
-- Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc.

just saw this as well and while not a big believer in what ESPN has to say I do have to agree with the assesment.. pretty much nailed it on the head although i personally feel that it was Gibbs who handcuffed Campbell and not Saunders.. Gibbs is way to conservative


Great. More "expert" analysis. It would be lovely if any of these so-called "experts" would ever write an article with some actual depth or inside knowledge. This drivel could have been written by a 3rd grader.


dont let your hatred for espn overlook a well stated assesment .. while im not a huge believer in everything said by espn this guy was right .. plain and simple.. deal with it.. thats one heck of a 3rd grader right there knows his stuff

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:10 pm
by EasyMoney
What an awful 2nd half.

I'm sitting here thinking I should be able contribute something new to this thread, but all I can think about is my preference to beat the multiple dead horses.

Like everyone else, I've grown tired of this team sitting on a lead. One thing is for certain, I do believe we have the players with killer instinct but we lack the killer instinct in play calling. The coaches do not trust our players. After hearing Gibbs' presser, I think all of us better warm up to these type of games. It's almost as if Gibbs is satisfied with these heart beating out of your chest, nail biting close games. I'm glad I eat relatively healthy and try to stay active otherwise I'd be worried about a heart attack.

Portis plays in 7 or so games last year and averages at least a TD per game. Betts plays in 9 or so games last year and averages less than half a TD per game. Portis puts one in last week from the 5 or 6 yard line at Philly and no one thinks to give him the ball at the 1 YARD LINE? Betts doesn't have a nose for the endzone. He is our Warrick Dunn. If Portis or Sellers runs that ball on 3rd down there neither of them cut back directly into a linebacker. Maybe Sellers does but he certainly runs that guy over. Why didn't he lower his head and continue with his momentum? WHO TRIES TO MAKE A CUT ON THE GOALLINE??? Where is the leap over the O line? There were so many things I was disgusted with in this game but this one easily ranks #1 on my list.

I thought this was going to be Campbell's breakout game. Why wouldn't you think that? After all the Giants came in with the worst passing defense in the league. Instead we max protect and go away from what has been burning the Giants this year. I realize that Campbell likes the 5 to 7 step drops, but this is a team you have to beat with 3 to 5 step drops. What a fantastic game plan.

The first half of this game the play calling was somewhat predictable but also somewhat effective. There is obviously something to be said about execution. The second half of this game was ridiculously predictable. What happened to 3 or 4 WR sets where you run the ball? Isn't that how you're supposed to keep a team off balance? Why show run and then run? Why show pass and then pass? Especially when its NOT WORKING! Who's brilliant mind came up with that one? Is there anyone on this board who doesn't know whats coming when we have 1 WR, 2 TE, 1 FB and 1 RB lining up on first down? Where is the creativity? When you're a running team and you cannot run the ball you'd think this would be the next progression in play calling. Nope, not this team.

The defense didn't play well in the 2nd half. How ironic is it that when we finally get some turnovers we lose the game? How ironic is it that when we get the turnovers everything else this defense has done thus far magically disappears? We lead the league in 3rd down defense going into this game and all of the sudden we give up close to a 100% conversion rate in the 2nd half? That said, I don't blame the defense at all for this loss. Its kind of hard to expect great things when you possess the ball for maybe 5 minutes of a 30 minute half.

This team doesn't need to find its identity on offense. Make no mistake about it, we are a running team. But they need to execute. When this team can't run the ball this is the type of game we're going to see all year. The coaches need to give these guys more opportunities. The opportunities will come when we're not ridiculously predictable. I'm really disgusted at the lack of adjustments and creativity in this offense. Why does it take a 7 point deficit to bring out the aggressive play calling in the 2nd half? The more I watch this team, the more I ask myself this same exact question. Why, why, why do we wait until the last 3 or 4 minutes of a game to start calling plays that keep a defense guessing?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:24 pm
by everydayAskinsday
IMHO Saunders isnt running this offense.. he might get to throw a pass play in there but hes not choosing the formations.. the protection the play calling .. Gibbs need to get his hand out of the offense .. hes too conservative..

and i know i dont know any of this for sure but its how I feel and it seems pretty obivous.. look at tape of his offense in St Louis and KC.. why would he change up so differently how he ran things

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:39 pm
by GSPODS
everydayAskinsday wrote:
GSPODS wrote:
everydayAskinsday wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270923028


The Washington Redskins took an early lead in this game, but this team has no "killer" instinct. Despite three Washington turnovers and plenty of opportunities, offensive coordinator Al Saunders refused to take the handcuffs off QB Jason Campbell. The Redskins never opened up the passing game until it was too late. Campbell showed great poise in the first half, but then in the second half, the Redskins had way too many third-and-long situations because they would not throw the ball on first and second down. When the Redskins needed to crank up the passing game late, it just was not there. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were completely neutralized in this game. That's not just Campbell's fault, Saunders and the offensive coaches need to shoulder a big portion of the blame as well. This offensive is way too conservative. With three shots inside the 3-yard-line, Clinton Portis is on the bench and they only attempt one pass. Until they open up the offense and turn Campbell loose, the Redskins are going to be in close games every weekend.
-- Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc.

just saw this as well and while not a big believer in what ESPN has to say I do have to agree with the assesment.. pretty much nailed it on the head although i personally feel that it was Gibbs who handcuffed Campbell and not Saunders.. Gibbs is way to conservative


Great. More "expert" analysis. It would be lovely if any of these so-called "experts" would ever write an article with some actual depth or inside knowledge. This drivel could have been written by a 3rd grader.


dont let your hatred for espn overlook a well stated assesment .. while im not a huge believer in everything said by espn this guy was right .. plain and simple.. deal with it.. thats one heck of a 3rd grader right there knows his stuff


Anyone who watched the game could have written this article. We all saw the early lead, the turnovers, the missed opportunities, and the offesive play-calling handcuffs. We all saw J.C.'s poise, the run, run, incompletion, punt pattern, the conservative attempt to hold a lead, and the clock and time management issues.

The question is: "Why?" and this article doesn't answer the question.
Why did the Redskins sit on a 14 point lead with 3 quarters to play?
Why did the play-calling take the game out of Jason Campbell's hands?
Why did the Redskins continue the same 3 and Out pattern?
Why did the Redskins hurry the last play with 25 seconds left?

This article answers none of the above, and, is therefore useless to anyone who watched the game.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:46 pm
by artmonk4president
From England I watched this game last night, and have supported the skins since 82 when it was first broadcast here, so hello from across the pond!
The one thing that had me really annoyed, apart from the abysmal display in the 2nd half, as mentioned by a few of you (!!) is why oh why spike the ball inside the 5 on that last drive when we have been pretty poor rushing? I thought that with some effort, and a less hasty approach (I mean, teams drive 50/60 yards+ in the last minute sometimes) then some kind of play should have been a no brainer! Poor play calling by JG. Coaches seem to get far too much respect over there, whereas over here Footy (soccer to you lot) managers walk a much finer line.. just ask Jose Morinho of Chelsea!

Hello to you all BTW! Very nice to 'meet' you!

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:41 pm
by UK Skins Fan
artmonk4president wrote:From England I watched this game last night, and have supported the skins since 82 when it was first broadcast here, so hello from across the pond!
The one thing that had me really annoyed, apart from the abysmal display in the 2nd half, as mentioned by a few of you (!!) is why oh why spike the ball inside the 5 on that last drive when we have been pretty poor rushing? I thought that with some effort, and a less hasty approach (I mean, teams drive 50/60 yards+ in the last minute sometimes) then some kind of play should have been a no brainer! Poor play calling by JG. Coaches seem to get far too much respect over there, whereas over here Footy (soccer to you lot) managers walk a much finer line.. just ask Jose Morinho of Chelsea!

Hello to you all BTW! Very nice to 'meet' you!
Welcome - you picked a bad day to join us. :( Always good to be joined by fans from my side of the pond. This is a great site, but you probably won't be seeing us at our best today - tempers are a little frayed. I really did not appreciate being kept from my sleep until after midnight in order to suffer this loss.

Actually, I wasn't kept from sleeping entirely - I fell asleep at halftime, much like the Redskins did. Only difference is that I woke up for the first drive of the second half.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:59 pm
by UK Skins Fan
This paragraph from today's Post just hit me between the eyes.

In Washington's final drive, the Redskins began from the New York 35-yard line with 2:19 to play. Campbell completed passes of 25, 18, 15 and 20 yards on that drive -- a total of 78 yards. Yet the Redskins ended up one yard shy. How is that possible? Center Casey Rabach had both a holding and a false start penalty, one of them negating a long gain. Campbell also took a loss after fumbling a snap in the shotgun when the ball simply hit him in the chest when he wasn't paying attention.


Wow. Enough yards to reach the endzone twice, and we still find a way to blow it? I'm shocked.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:03 pm
by SKINFAN
UK Skins Fan wrote:This paragraph from today's Post just hit me between the eyes.

In Washington's final drive, the Redskins began from the New York 35-yard line with 2:19 to play. Campbell completed passes of 25, 18, 15 and 20 yards on that drive -- a total of 78 yards. Yet the Redskins ended up one yard shy. How is that possible? Center Casey Rabach had both a holding and a false start penalty, one of them negating a long gain. Campbell also took a loss after fumbling a snap in the shotgun when the ball simply hit him in the chest when he wasn't paying attention.


Wow. Enough yards to reach the endzone twice, and we still find a way to blow it? I'm shocked.


You haven't seen nothing yet. Did you see that we even kept our featured RB on the sideline on those plays? I think it was more of a statement that we wanted to show that Betts is every bit as good as Portis, sadly, we found out he is not and CP is one of a kind.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:11 pm
by UK Skins Fan
No, Portis wasn't in the game at that point, but it was execution rather than personnel than killed us. On the radio, those last few minutes were like a good old fashioned English farce.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:30 pm
by CanesSkins26
SKINFAN wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:This paragraph from today's Post just hit me between the eyes.

In Washington's final drive, the Redskins began from the New York 35-yard line with 2:19 to play. Campbell completed passes of 25, 18, 15 and 20 yards on that drive -- a total of 78 yards. Yet the Redskins ended up one yard shy. How is that possible? Center Casey Rabach had both a holding and a false start penalty, one of them negating a long gain. Campbell also took a loss after fumbling a snap in the shotgun when the ball simply hit him in the chest when he wasn't paying attention.


Wow. Enough yards to reach the endzone twice, and we still find a way to blow it? I'm shocked.


You haven't seen nothing yet. Did you see that we even kept our featured RB on the sideline on those plays? I think it was more of a statement that we wanted to show that Betts is every bit as good as Portis, sadly, we found out he is not and CP is one of a kind.


What's especially mind blowing about that decision is that CP had easily scored on that exact same play earlier in the game. Our offensive coaching staff is a joke right now.