All Im saying is if we can hold our opponents to an average of 10 points or less then the running game and good management really comes in to play
Ten points or less??? You can't be serious about that. I like our defense a lot and expect them to be a top 5 unit but expecting them to hold teams to an average of 10 points or less is rediculous, especially considering our schedule. The Bears, playing in a week division, didn't even hold teams to 10 or less points last season and their D was amazing. The offense is going to have to make plays next season make no mistakes about it. The comparison to the Ravens Super Bowl team also isn't very valid. Brunell is going to have to do much more than what Dilfer did that year if we are going to win the Super Bowl.
All Im saying is if we can hold our opponents to an average of 10 points or less then the running game and good management really comes in to play
Ten points or less??? You can't be serious about that. I like our defense a lot and expect them to be a top 5 unit but expecting them to hold teams to an average of 10 points or less is rediculous, especially considering our schedule. The Bears, playing in a week division, didn't even hold teams to 10 or less points last season and their D was amazing. The offense is going to have to make plays next season make no mistakes about it. The comparison to the Ravens Super Bowl team also isn't very valid. Brunell is going to have to do much more than what Dilfer did that year if we are going to win the Super Bowl.
Like I said in past threads my hope is for Campbell to start this season depending on a well schooled Campbell. I believe adds more to our offense he is young can scramble is tough but is still young. A comparison to the Super Bowl Ravens team maybe not but the formula is what works. Outstanding defense excellent running game special teams disciplined quarterback winning the turnover battles. I really hope our offense can light it up this season but if not I want to see us stick to the formula get into the playoffs and take our chances there. Ten points or less may sound rediculous but the 85 Bears where able to pull it off. Why not us? What do you think it takes to win the Super Bowl? Excellence baby our strength is our Defense make no mistake about it. Ten points or less am I serious yes I am dead serious. Our backbone is the Defense and the running game. If our offense can light it up then thats even better but lets not stray to far from what got us into the playoffs in the first place. Defense wins Championships son consider this your first lesson in football 101.
gay4pacman wrote:you can name a million different coaches i mean what are you trying to prove
i can name a million different examples but i thought we were talking about marty, spurrier, norv
I was replying to this statement you made:
gay4pacman wrote:they wouldn't be head coaches if they weren't natural leaders.
You are stating you have to be a leader if you were a head coach. That's not a correct assertion.
i mean spurrier turned south carolina around last year please dont say these guys arent leader thats stupid
wins dont equal leaders
You make no sense. If your leader doesn't lead your team to wins...what exactly is he doing?
you lead by example , live your life as a true gentleman what happens on the field doesn't equal your leadership qualities
Spurrier hardly is a gentleman; at Florida he was one of the most obnoxious coaches I'd seen in college. Making nasty comments about other teams, other coaches (Phil Fulmer especially). Funny, actually, but certainly not a true gentleman.
Do you remember Dave Campo, Barry Switzer and Rich Kotite?
I hate Oklahoma and Dallas equally but Switzer did win 3 National Championships and 1 Super Bowl. Not too shabby if you ask me.
Switzer won his Superbowl because he walked into one of the most talented teams in history. His college career was impressive, but his pro coaching career was a total joke (and that's more what I was referring to).
You're right in the fact that he doesn't belong with Kotite or Campo, neither who really did anything as head coaches.
gibbs called dallas fans the ugliest in the world so dont try to say spurrier is that bad. No coach is a saint, leader, and racks up wins.....even gibbs
a lot of guys who dont arent leaders are head coaches in the nfl? that is an incorrect assertion.
Im sorry but just because he doesnt lead a tem to wins he can still be a leader.
Spurrier isa leader, marty is a leader, and norv is a leader too. if you cant see that cause they all struggled with the skins and it hurts too much to say it i understand.
dont bash guys who are leaders. They were al redskins and we wouldn't be where we are if we didnt have each of them as head coaches. Everything happens for a reason i truly beliee that.
So go ahead and break down everything i just said and rip it apart.
I know this guy named Jimmy, he has a pet....POSTERNUTBAG! Thats his cats name, POSTERNUTBAG!!!
PulpExposure wrote:Switzer won his Superbowl because he walked into one of the most talented teams in history. His college career was impressive, but his pro coaching career was a total joke (and that's more what I was referring to).
You're right in the fact that he doesn't belong with Kotite or Campo, neither who really did anything as head coaches.
If Redskins fans know anything, it is that talent does not automatically equal wins, let alone a championship.
Switzer might not have been the greatest coach in the world, but he did have a 40-24 record and a 5-2 playoff record to go along with that big shiny ring. That counts for something.
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gay4pacman wrote:gibbs called dallas fans the ugliest in the world so dont try to say spurrier is that bad. No coach is a saint, leader, and racks up wins.....even gibbs
a lot of guys who dont arent leaders are head coaches in the nfl? that is an incorrect assertion.
Im sorry but just because he doesnt lead a tem to wins he can still be a leader.
Spurrier isa leader, marty is a leader, and norv is a leader too. if you cant see that cause they all struggled with the skins and it hurts too much to say it i understand.
dont bash guys who are leaders. They were al redskins and we wouldn't be where we are if we didnt have each of them as head coaches. Everything happens for a reason i truly beliee that.
So go ahead and break down everything i just said and rip it apart.
Nah, your outlook on life is cheery and optimistic. Come back in a few years after life has ground you down a bit, and you can hang out in the gutters of cynicism with me.
gay4pacman wrote:you can name a million different coaches i mean what are you trying to prove
i can name a million different examples but i thought we were talking about marty, spurrier, norv
i mean spurrier turned south carolina around last year please dont say these guys arent leader thats stupid
wins dont equal leaders
you lead by example , live your life as a true gentleman what happens on the field doesn't equal your leadership qualities
Just because you're in a position of leadership does not make you a leader or a good one. I dont consider Steve nor Marty good leaders and not all good leaders have to have a ring.
In the NFL ranks Steve didn't even run his own team. His owner and defensive coordinator ran his team that Spurrier eventually quit on.
Marty while in SanDiego has consistenly come up short with OODLES of talent.
Also, if you're only reason against Gibbs was him calling Dallas fans ugly then thats a weak argument. He was clearly saying that in the mood of the rilvary.
...and what's wrong with framing this thread about whether Brunell will lead the Redskins to a Superbowl? It makes assumptions that Gibbs would never make. It assumes that the Redskins are destined, supposed, intended to win everything.
That's a Cowboys fan assumption.
I don't care about winning all the games. I just want the Redskins to win the next one.
And I want Redskin fans to cheer like lunatics when they do win.
Long ago, my friend Dave from Oxon Hill said, just after SB 22, "You know, there are probably kids who expect this every year. They don't remember Mike Nixon and Otto and all those years in the '60's".
The odd thing I see here is that the team hasn't just won SB 17 and SB 22, but too many fans have the attitude that Dave talked about.
Isn't it still amazing to go 10 and 6, win out, win the first playoff?
welch wrote:...and what's wrong with framing this thread about whether Brunell will lead the Redskins to a Superbowl? It makes assumptions that Gibbs would never make. It assumes that the Redskins are destined, supposed, intended to win everything.
That's a Cowboys fan assumption.
I don't care about winning all the games. I just want the Redskins to win the next one.
And I want Redskin fans to cheer like lunatics when they do win.
Long ago, my friend Dave from Oxon Hill said, just after SB 22, "You know, there are probably kids who expect this every year. They don't remember Mike Nixon and Otto and all those years in the '60's".
The odd thing I see here is that the team hasn't just won SB 17 and SB 22, but too many fans have the attitude that Dave talked about.
Isn't it still amazing to go 10 and 6, win out, win the first playoff?
We are all happy with last seasons 10-6 record and winning our first playoff game in ten or so years. But does anyone really expect any team to win the SuperBowl every year no of course not. But that is what every team aims for every year. No one really expects to win the big one every year. Winning in the SKins camp has been missing for a while and we are all hungry for a Superbowl Win. We all feel that we have a good chance to do it with this squad so we feel every move is critical and can play a large part in our success. Do I think its gonna happen every year of course not which is why I want to make the most of it now while we can thats all.
crazyhorse wrote:but I'll stick to the notion that professional athletes are old enough to motivate themselves and don't much require mumbo jumbo from the leader.
You couldn't be any more wrong than you are right now. Where you awake when Steve Spurrier reigned? Or how about when Deoin and Mark Carrier were brought on. We had talent out the wazoo but lacked the leadership at the top (coach).
We lacked leadership but we also lacked talent that year, don't tell me Jeff George is a good Qb, Tre JOhnson got hurt, Deion was old, most of the team were a bunch of old guys. We didn't have talent that year. The year before we played an easy schedule and that made us look better than we really were and the Lions who we played in the playoffs were slumping towards the end of the season. We were never that good to begin with.
Marty is a good coach who has vision. Steve might be the only one that fits here.
Marty is a good man, but he still lacks that certain "je ne sais quoi" that Joe Gibbs has. Let's see how he does in SD this year, now that Brees is gone.
As for Spurrier, he's a leader, but not of men. He is best suited for the children in college, and that ain't a bad gig either.
Do you remember Kansas City and Cleveland, he's won without Brees before.
Marty is a good coach who has vision. Steve might be the only one that fits here.
I disagree to an extent. I thought about placing his name in that list but look how his team failed to rise to the occasion last year? What has he really done? His teams never seem to rise to being anymore than above average.
Look at how Gibbs rallied a team that was supposed to be at the bottom of the east and compare it to how Marty and his allstar team performed.
R u joking the Chargers had by far the hardest schedule in the league and still were good they didn't make the playoffs but the Skins wouldn't have made the playoffs if they were in the AFC last year ethier. Do u even remember our record against AFC teams. That Chargers team did not under acheive.
