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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:58 pm
by Countertrey
UK Skins Fan wrote:And the plane flew.


8)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:25 pm
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:And the plane flew.


You have no proof of that. Photons move wharever they oberve so there's no way to discover or verify where a given object is, ever.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:56 pm
by UK Skins Fan
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:And the plane flew.


You have no proof of that. Photons move wharever they oberve so there's no way to discover or verify where a given object is, ever.
Talking a load of complete and utter arse is not going to alter the facts. I suspect you're just being silly. What nobody knows is whether it's deliberate or not. :wink:

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:28 pm
by skinz74
Just wondering what kind of marinade to use for crow...???

'Gratz to Counter-trey and assoc. for an intelligent debate w/ the added plus of actually being correct.

Another time, another debate... 8)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:45 pm
by Countertrey
skinz74 wrote:Just wondering what kind of marinade to use for crow...???

'Gratz to Counter-trey and assoc. for an intelligent debate w/ the added plus of actually being correct.

Another time, another debate... 8)


From one Airedale to another... very gracious, sir! Thank you.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:29 pm
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:And the plane flew.


You have no proof of that. Photons move wharever they oberve so there's no way to discover or verify where a given object is, ever.
Talking a load of complete and utter arse is not going to alter the facts. I suspect you're just being silly. What nobody knows is whether it's deliberate or not. :wink:


You need to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:39 pm
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
JansenFan wrote:That wasn't a treadmill. It was a moving tarp. :lol: just kidding.


I hasten to repeat: Newtonian principles have been overthrown now for the greater part of a century.
And they weren't overthrown, but merely put into context.


No, overthrown. Einstein showed that time is illusory, that space is curved, and that larger masses have no attraction for smaller ones. After that, there were the uncertainly principle, discoveries that sub-atomic particle do not behave according to Newtonian physics, string theory, etc.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:25 pm
by UK Skins Fan
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:And the plane flew.


You have no proof of that. Photons move wharever they oberve so there's no way to discover or verify where a given object is, ever.
Talking a load of complete and utter arse is not going to alter the facts. I suspect you're just being silly. What nobody knows is whether it's deliberate or not. :wink:


You need to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
True enough, but I get out quite enough to avoid reading that stuff, thanks very much. A load of very impressive nonsense, but a load of arse nevetherless. And nobody can convince me otherwise, because I have no idea whatsoever what it's talking about. Furthermore, I doubt there are more than three people in the World who have any idea what it's all about, and they're all making money from it, and have little interest in explaining it to the rest of us.

Besides, the plane flew, and changing the subject won't help.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:31 pm
by UK Skins Fan
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
JansenFan wrote:That wasn't a treadmill. It was a moving tarp. :lol: just kidding.


I hasten to repeat: Newtonian principles have been overthrown now for the greater part of a century.
And they weren't overthrown, but merely put into context.


No, overthrown. Einstein showed that time is illusory, that space is curved, and that larger masses have no attraction for smaller ones. After that, there were the uncertainly principle, discoveries that sub-atomic particle do not behave according to Newtonian physics, string theory, etc.
Indeed, sub atomic particles do not behave according to Newtonian physics, at least that's what those among us who claim to know how sub atomic particles behave have been saying.

Time is illusory. Space is curved. Great, but the plane still flew. Frankly, in my humble opinion, the obscurity of quantum physics and the like takes science beyond the realm of understanding, and purely into the realms of faith. You can believe the uncertainty principle if you like, but you may as well believe in God.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:32 pm
by UK Skins Fan
And now back to the subject. The plane will fly.

And the sooner we get a new head coach and move on from this nonsense, the better.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:59 pm
by Countertrey
UK Skins Fan wrote:And now back to the subject. The plane will fly.

And the sooner we get a new head coach and move on from this nonsense, the better.


Yeah... what he said ^^^ :wink:


It does seem that Redskins 1 is rolling aimlessly on a treadmill at the moment. Will it fly?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:33 am
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:And now back to the subject. The plane will fly.

And the sooner we get a new head coach and move on from this nonsense, the better.


We already have Otto Graham as our head coach, but I can't prove it.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:34 am
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:And now back to the subject. The plane will fly.

And the sooner we get a new head coach and move on from this nonsense, the better.


We already have Otto Graham as our head coach, but I can't prove it. Maybe he's on the plane.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:53 am
by UK Skins Fan
Right now, I think we'd be lucky to get Otto from The Simpsons to coach the team.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:54 am
by UK Skins Fan
Countertrey wrote:It does seem that Redskins 1 is rolling aimlessly on a treadmill at the moment. Will it fly?
That just about says everything. Nicely put.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:19 pm
by crazyhorse1
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
JansenFan wrote:That wasn't a treadmill. It was a moving tarp. :lol: just kidding.


I hasten to repeat: Newtonian principles have been overthrown now for the greater part of a century.
And they weren't overthrown, but merely put into context.


No, overthrown. Einstein showed that time is illusory, that space is curved, and that larger masses have no attraction for smaller ones. After that, there were the uncertainly principle, discoveries that sub-atomic particle do not behave according to Newtonian physics, string theory, etc.
Indeed, sub atomic particles do not behave according to Newtonian physics, at least that's what those among us who claim to know how sub atomic particles behave have been saying.

Time is illusory. Space is curved. Great, but the plane still flew. Frankly, in my humble opinion, the obscurity of quantum physics and the like takes science beyond the realm of understanding, and purely into the realms of faith. You can believe the uncertainty principle if you like, but you may as well believe in God.


I, of course, an Indian man, have absorbed every sub-atomic particle of quantum physics, illusory time, and indeterminate space, as well as chaos theory, as a result of having watched many Redskin games. Is Joe Gibbs driving the plane?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:50 pm
by DarthMonk
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
JansenFan wrote:That wasn't a treadmill. It was a moving tarp. :lol: just kidding.


I hasten to repeat: Newtonian principles have been overthrown now for the greater part of a century.
And they weren't overthrown, but merely put into context.


No, overthrown. Einstein showed that time is illusory, that space is curved, and that larger masses have no attraction for smaller ones. After that, there were the uncertainly principle, discoveries that sub-atomic particle do not behave according to Newtonian physics, string theory, etc.
Indeed, sub atomic particles do not behave according to Newtonian physics, at least that's what those among us who claim to know how sub atomic particles behave have been saying.

Time is illusory. Space is curved. Great, but the plane still flew. Frankly, in my humble opinion, the obscurity of quantum physics and the like takes science beyond the realm of understanding, and purely into the realms of faith. You can believe the uncertainty principle if you like, but you may as well believe in God.


"Put in context" is a lot better than "overthrown." How about we let Einstein himself explain:

"Creating a new theory is not like destroying (overthrowing) an old barn (Newton)and erecting a skyscraper (relativity) in its place. It is rather like climbing a mountain, gaining new and wider views, discovering unexpected connections between our starting points and its rich environment. But the point from which we started out (Newtonian barn) still exists and can be seen (put in context), although it appears smaller and forms a tiny part of our broad view gained by the mastery of the obstacles on our adventurous way up."

-- Albert Einstein, The Evolution of Physics.

DarthMonk

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:44 am
by crazyhorse1
DarthMonk wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
JansenFan wrote:That wasn't a treadmill. It was a moving tarp. :lol: just kidding.


I hasten to repeat: Newtonian principles have been overthrown now for the greater part of a century.
And they weren't overthrown, but merely put into context.


No, overthrown. Einstein showed that time is illusory, that space is curved, and that larger masses have no attraction for smaller ones. After that, there were the uncertainly principle, discoveries that sub-atomic particle do not behave according to Newtonian physics, string theory, etc.
Indeed, sub atomic particles do not behave according to Newtonian physics, at least that's what those among us who claim to know how sub atomic particles behave have been saying.

Time is illusory. Space is curved. Great, but the plane still flew. Frankly, in my humble opinion, the obscurity of quantum physics and the like takes science beyond the realm of understanding, and purely into the realms of faith. You can believe the uncertainty principle if you like, but you may as well believe in God.


"Put in context" is a lot better than "overthrown." How about we let Einstein himself explain:

"Creating a new theory is not like destroying (overthrowing) an old barn (Newton)and erecting a skyscraper (relativity) in its place. It is rather like climbing a mountain, gaining new and wider views, discovering unexpected connections between our starting points and its rich environment. But the point from which we started out (Newtonian barn) still exists and can be seen (put in context), although it appears smaller and forms a tiny part of our broad view gained by the mastery of the obstacles on our adventurous way up."

-- Albert Einstein, The Evolution of Physics.

DarthMonk


I know he great deal about Einstein and know his political needs that caused him to say it. The most ingeniously ingenuine part of the statement is at it's end, when he says that Newton's observations formed a tiny part of the broad view gained by "the masteryof the obstacles on the way." Newton was an "obstacle" to the way up. By overcoming his error science achieved a way to the light. Einstein was being attacked by defenders of Newtonian physicas who were threatened by his discoveries and impeded his career. He was trying to placate them but at the same time was too filled with pride and anger not to use his doubletalk.

Later in his life, he denied the literal existence of death when he said that true scientists don't believe in it because they know that time is a "persistent illusion." He flat out deinied that Newtonian physics described the real world, not only in relation to dependence on the "illusion" of time but also in relation to the concept of gravity. If Einstein's notion of reality is true, Newton's is not. One might have led to the discovery of the other, but they cannot be reconciled.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:45 pm
by UK Skins Fan
crazyhorse1 wrote:Later in his life, he denied the literal existence of death when he said that true scientists don't believe in it because they know that time is a "persistent illusion."
Seriously? So now we know that Einstein was just a nutter? Wow. Even I didn't think that.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:48 pm
by NC43Hog
I don't think this plane is ever getting off the ground!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:01 pm
by UK Skins Fan
NC43Hog wrote:I don't think this plane is ever getting off the ground!
For some people, it doesn't matter whether it gets off the ground or not - apparently, none of us can trust what our eyes are telling us, because just observing something makes it something different. Which is presumably why, every time I see a wafer thin piece of dry bread, it actually turns into a huge slab of chocolate cake by the time it reaches my mouth.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:04 pm
by Fios
UK Skins Fan wrote:
NC43Hog wrote:I don't think this plane is ever getting off the ground!
For some people, it doesn't matter whether it gets off the ground or not - apparently, none of us can trust what our eyes are telling us, because just observing something makes it something different. Which is presumably why, every time I see a wafer thin piece of dry bread, it actually turns into a huge slab of chocolate cake by the time it reaches my mouth.


That explains the bad teeth* :twisted:







*That is, by far, UK's favorite myth

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:09 pm
by NC43Hog
UK Skins Fan wrote:every time I see a wafer thin piece of dry bread, it actually turns into a huge slab of chocolate cake by the time it reaches my mouth.


Are you sure that wasn't an after dinner mint.


Image

I'm Stuffed!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:16 pm
by UK Skins Fan
NC43Hog wrote:I'm Stuffed!!
And so you should be. :) :evil:

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:18 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Fios wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
NC43Hog wrote:I don't think this plane is ever getting off the ground!
For some people, it doesn't matter whether it gets off the ground or not - apparently, none of us can trust what our eyes are telling us, because just observing something makes it something different. Which is presumably why, every time I see a wafer thin piece of dry bread, it actually turns into a huge slab of chocolate cake by the time it reaches my mouth.


That explains the bad teeth* :twisted:







*That is, by far, UK's favorite myth


Oooh. You cow. I'll scratch your eyes out :moon: