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Chris Luva Luva wrote:Why would he be suspended of something he has not been proven guilty of?

Redskins | Taylor could face fine or suspension
Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:43:51 -0700

Amy Shipley, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor still faces a possible suspension or fine as a result of his case that he pleaded out of. The plea agreement included the dismissal of felony assault charges and no prison time for Taylor, and seemed to represent an extremely favorable outcome in a case in which Taylor faced up to 46 years in prison as a result of his arrest last June after a street fight in a depressed part of Miami. Taylor told the judge he accepted the plea reluctantly. With the resolution of Taylor's legal case, the issue now will be taken up by the NFL. "It will be reviewed for possible discipline under the terms of the league's personal conduct policy," said Greg Aiello, the NFL's vice president of public relations. Under the policy, a player who is convicted of a crime or pleads guilty to one can be disciplined at the discretion of the commissioner. The team plans to action against Taylor. Richard Sharpstein, Taylor's lead attorney, said he discussed the plea deal with NFL general counsel Dennis Curran, who indicated that similar cases have resulted in fines and one- or two-game suspensions.

rick301 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Why would he be suspended of something he has not been proven guilty of?

I'll respond to what you said with this:

I think that the NFL/Washington needs to do something disciplinary - and I think that it will be a token fine.

My

rick301 wrote:I think that the NFL/Washington needs to do something disciplinary - and I think that it will be a token fine.

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'SKINS EXPECT A FINE ONLY FOR TAYLOR
A league source tells us that the Washington Redskins anticipate that safety Sean Taylor's punishment for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy will be a fine, not a suspension. Under the CBA, the Commissioner has the ability to impose discipline on players who engage in off-field criminal conduct.

Earlier this week, Taylor pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault and misdemeanor battery as part of a resolution of charges that allowed him to avoid felony counts that carries a maximum of 45 years in prison.

The team, we hear, is 90 percent certain that Taylor won't be suspended.

We're also told that, even if Taylor is suspended, the Redskins won't try to recover any of the signing bonus money paid to the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft.

VRIEL1 wrote:This is probubly a moot question...or two: Did Sean ever get his 4-wheeler/wheelers back? or are they still stolen? Amazingly enough all we heard and read was how a thug football player went over to someones house and brandished a gun. The whole reason it started kinda got scrubbed under the "Sean's going to jail" story. Did those individuals actually have something to do with his ATV's being stolen? Where the purpetrators caught and are they getting a charged and slammed all over the news?

SkinsFreak wrote:Justice Hog, this question is for you, our in-house legal expert. Thanks by the way. Some thoughts from others are appeciated as well.

Several things about this case are known to the local police. Additionally, these facts have been reported in the media.
1. Sean's atv's were stolen.
2. The accusers did the only shooting, leaving bullet holes in Sean's SUV. And again, at a different and subsequent location.

Why has no one been charged with these crimes? I live in the area and have not even heard of these crimes being investigated, like some forensic analysis on the bullets recovered from Sean's SUV, or interviews with the eye witnesses that stated they saw these guys steal Sean's atv's.

Your thought's?

Justice Hog wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:Justice Hog, this question is for you, our in-house legal expert. Thanks by the way. Some thoughts from others are appeciated as well.

Several things about this case are known to the local police. Additionally, these facts have been reported in the media.
1. Sean's atv's were stolen.
2. The accusers did the only shooting, leaving bullet holes in Sean's SUV. And again, at a different and subsequent location.

Why has no one been charged with these crimes? I live in the area and have not even heard of these crimes being investigated, like some forensic analysis on the bullets recovered from Sean's SUV, or interviews with the eye witnesses that stated they saw these guys steal Sean's atv's.

Your thought's?

Good questions.

The issue is "evidence". While the State may have had evidence that shots were fired, did they have evidence as to exactly "who" fired the shots? A forensic analysis of the bullets won't reveal much, except for maybe the type of firearm that shot the bullets. If a gun is seized by someone, then ATF can determine if that was the actual gun that fired the shots. Without that, the evidence may have just been too week to pursue charges against other person(s).

As for the eyewitnesses (if they exist, and if they will, in fact, come forward), you'll have to look at credibility issues they may or may not have.

Seems to me that these were all a bunch of thugs. Thugs usually hang out with thugs, who won't cooperate with the police.

1niksder wrote:Help me out with this one.

How was it that a individual that is involved in a case that stems from possible stolen ATVs was pulled over with a ATv that had the ignition jammed never saw the inside of a courtroom?

Fios wrote:Finally found this:

SkinsFreak wrote:OK, here we go. I was waiting until the end of the season to share this but since a thread was started, I will share a few tidbits with you.

I was born and raised in Maryland however my career has brought me to South Florida, specifically Miami / Dade County. I believe that the current known facts of this case are not being offered or articulated to the public on a national basis the way they are here in Florida, or to say, in a manor that reflects the true and known facts of this case. Here are some KNOWN facts:

1. Sean Taylor did show up with friend Charles Caughman to recover his stolen ATV's and punched a guy. This is true and Sean does not dipute this.

2. More than a dozen eyewitnesses submitted signed affidavits to the State Attorney's office and all said they would testify on Sean's behalf, that he never had a gun or pulled a gun on anyone.

3. The two accusers, including 21 year old Ryan Hill, are known gang members in the area with prior arrest records.

4. Sean Taylor submitted a "passed" lie detector test. (A guilty person would not subject themselves to this, )

5. The State Attorney did try to get Sean's friend Charles Coughman to testify against Sean. Obviously Coughman declined and said he will only testify on Sean's behalf.

6. The only "shooting" took place back at Seans or his mothers place (not sure on this one) But it was definately after Sean left the scene. SEAN'S SUV has the bullet holes in it. The police recovered bullet casings at this location. Everyone seems to forget that Sean is actually the victim in this case.

7. The prosecutor, Mike Grieco, has in the past tried to prosecute several well known public figures. This has been in the news here several times over the past few years. I believe he is just trying to make a name for himself by attacking celeb's just prior to his career as a defense lawyer. This is common for some DA's.

It is logical that the accusers would say that Sean had a gun first (...well he hit me first kind of thing) They are trying to to wiggle out of this and say it was self defense. But the KNOWN facts are much to the contrary. And further, it is NOT self defense when you go to another scene, away from the original location, and start shooting. Sorry, but from my perspective, Mike Grieco has no case and he knows it.