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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:27 pm
by gregory smith
These days I'm a nervous wreck
Tryin to live my life so politically correct
Don't stand here
Don't smoke over there
Drink bottled water
Don't breathe the air KS



Political correctness is out of control.
DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:18 pm
by fredp45
This President is so clueless -- why does he feel the need to enter into issues about the NFL???

Solve bigger issues man!

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:32 pm
by emoses14
Deadskins wrote:
Barack Obama told the AP that if he were the Redskins owner, he would "think about changing" the name because the moniker offends “a sizeable group of people.”

Yeah, white, PC nazi's who have nothing better to do. You would think the President has more pressing issues on his plate right now. :roll:


Yes, having more pressing issues on your plate clearly keeps a man from voicing an opinion on lesser one; says a man posting comments on a redskins message board.

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:35 pm
by emoses14
rskin72 wrote:Not suprising to me as to where a fairly liberal democratic president falls on this subject. If I were the President, I would "think" about our national debt/deficit, and maybe getting a signed budget would be nice as well.

Some of the more major media sports outlets seem to be pushing this agenda....right or wrong....and I think it is wrong. I would say that the more the media latches onto this like a flea-bitten mutt latches onto a steakbone, then the more likely that eventually the owner may be compelled to change the name. Also, this is a politically correct era that we live in, and (right or wrong) it does not take a majority to be offended at any particular issue for change to occur/be forced upon us.

I wear, and have, a lot of Redskin-centric stuff.....This year, for the first time since I have been a fan, I have heard other folks comment about this subject outside of the DMV. Not a lot, but just the fact that it is now on some folks radar.


Obama is not a liberal. He's far too moderate for that. That being said, I don't give a crisp what he would do IF he owned the skins. He don't .

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:17 pm
by Kilmer72
I'm offended by the law that people riding bicycles must wear a safety helmet. Why in my day we didn't have safety helmets for a skate board or a bicycle. Helmets are for woosies.
So, I guess what I am really trying to say is, I have only met 3 full blood native Americans who preferred to be called American Indians by the way, they thought the name (REDSKINS) was far from demeaning.
So let us say that we do buckle under the pressure and change the name. Dan and the team and their fans (the people that don't care) charity,NFL money as far as loading the offered plate, meaningless jobs such as cleaning,cooking,taxes,OH MY!
I hope no one is offended but a full blooded American Indian told me and a friend "We take what we can get. If it means getting something back. The government stole from us so even a tiny victory is something to be proud of" This was what he told me was the motive. He told me even though he wasn't a football fan he felt it more an honor than an insult. He passed away a few years ago. I am sure his opinion of this now would be he thinks it is stupid. So he acknowledged that there might be some Native American that might be offended and want something for it.

I say keep the name unless it ever really becomes a problem. I would feel pushed around if I was owner and had to make a change.

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:35 pm
by grampi
Deadskins wrote:
Barack Obama told the AP that if he were the Redskins owner, he would "think about changing" the name because the moniker offends “a sizeable group of people.”

Yeah, white, PC nazi's who have nothing better to do. You would think the President has more pressing issues on his plate right now. :roll:


He does, but he's too inexperienced to be prez and he doesn't know how to handle the job, so he wastes his time on trivial things....I'd prefer he focusses his attention on the trivial things, look how he screwed up the healthcare system....

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:01 pm
by StorminMormon86
I'm not one of these idiots who blames Obama for the deficit, screwing health care, etc. but damn this guy needs to stop sticking his nose in issues that have no relevance to the state of this country. Although I suspect he was asked a question and simply answered it and the sharks came to the chum to blow it out of proportion like usual.

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:05 am
by Deadskins
emoses14 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
Barack Obama told the AP that if he were the Redskins owner, he would "think about changing" the name because the moniker offends “a sizeable group of people.”

Yeah, white, PC nazi's who have nothing better to do. You would think the President has more pressing issues on his plate right now. :roll:


Yes, having more pressing issues on your plate clearly keeps a man from voicing an opinion on lesser one; says a man posting comments on a redskins message board.

I don't get the analogy. :?

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:09 am
by DarthMonk
Deadskins wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
Barack Obama told the AP that if he were the Redskins owner, he would "think about changing" the name because the moniker offends “a sizeable group of people.”

Yeah, white, PC nazi's who have nothing better to do. You would think the President has more pressing issues on his plate right now. :roll:


Yes, having more pressing issues on your plate clearly keeps a man from voicing an opinion on lesser one; says a man posting comments on a redskins message board.

I don't get the analogy. :?


It's not really an analogy but I get it. It's more of a comment on irony.

I'll make it an analogy:

The President taking the time to comment on this issue when he has more pressing issues is like a poster posting about his comments when the poster most likely has more pressing issues himself - especially when the post refers to more pressing issues ...

... like -drinking

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:31 am
by DarthMonk
President Barack Obama conducted an interview Friday with AP White House Correspondent Julie Pace that covered a wide range of topics — the government shutdown, the debt ceiling, health care, foreign affairs and the name of Washington's professional football team.


Conducting such interviews is standard fare for sitting Presidents.

Q: If I could just ask you one last question on something that's not politically related, but is getting a lot of attention in Washington -- the name of the Washington Redskins football team. There is a lot of people who say it's time to change the name of that team, considering that it's insulting to many Native Americans. What's your position on that?

THE PRESIDENT: You know, Julie, obviously, people get pretty attached to team names, mascots. I don't think there are any Redskins fans that mean offense. I've got to say that if I were the owner of the team and I knew that there was a name of my team -- even if it had a storied history -- that was offending a sizeable group of people, I'd think about changing it.

But I don't want to detract from the wonderful Redskins fans that are here. They love their team, and rightly so -- even though they've been having a pretty tough time this year. But I think -- all these mascots and team names related to Native Americans, Native Americans feel pretty strongly about it. And I don't know whether our attachment to a particular name should override the real, legitimate concerns that people have about these things.

But I don't have -- I don't have a stake in this in the sense that I'm not a part owner of any football team. Maybe after I leave this --

Q: Maybe after the presidency.

THE PRESIDENT: Maybe after I leave the presidency. (Laughter.) I think it would be a lot of fun. Although, I'd probably play -- I'd probably look at a basketball team before I looked at a football team. I know more about basketball than I do about football.

Q: Get the Bulls ready.

THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely. I think they're going to be good this year.

Q: Thank you very much for sitting down with us today. I appreciate it.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you so much. Great to talk to you, Julie.


Throw-away question at the end of a lengthy interview covering the government shutdown, the debt ceiling, health care, and foreign affairs with an answer containing "if" in front of both owning a team and knowing its name offended a sizeable group concluding with "I'd think about changing it."

So would I. Probably not for long, but so would I.

I'd probaly also take the 60 seconds required to answer the question. Might even fart later despite other pressing issues.

:mrgreen:

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:08 pm
by chiefhog44
I for one, am offended by "Cracker Barrel" the restaurant.

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:09 pm
by chiefhog44
Just saw this.

Because the American Indian Counsel has requested that the NFL disassociate itself from Indian Names, the Washington Redskins have announced that they will change their name to the Washington Foreskins, in honor of all the dickheads in Washington DC , effective immediately.

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:37 pm
by DarthMonk
chiefhog44 wrote:Just saw this.

Because the American Indian Counsel has requested that the NFL disassociate itself from Indian Names, the Washington Redskins have announced that they will change their name to the Washington Foreskins, in honor of all the dickheads in Washington DC , effective immediately.


Circumcisions loom.

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:20 pm
by rskin72
emoses14 wrote:
rskin72 wrote:Not suprising to me as to where a fairly liberal democratic president falls on this subject. If I were the President, I would "think" about our national debt/deficit, and maybe getting a signed budget would be nice as well.

Some of the more major media sports outlets seem to be pushing this agenda....right or wrong....and I think it is wrong. I would say that the more the media latches onto this like a flea-bitten mutt latches onto a steakbone, then the more likely that eventually the owner may be compelled to change the name. Also, this is a politically correct era that we live in, and (right or wrong) it does not take a majority to be offended at any particular issue for change to occur/be forced upon us.

I wear, and have, a lot of Redskin-centric stuff.....This year, for the first time since I have been a fan, I have heard other folks comment about this subject outside of the DMV. Not a lot, but just the fact that it is now on some folks radar.


Obama is not a liberal. He's far too moderate for that. That being said, I don't give a crisp what he would do IF he owned the skins. He don't .


While we could debate the Obama comment, sure we would both rather just talk Redskins football. I agree with your last thought, however !! :D

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:41 am
by Deadskins
DarthMonk wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
Barack Obama told the AP that if he were the Redskins owner, he would "think about changing" the name because the moniker offends “a sizeable group of people.”

Yeah, white, PC nazi's who have nothing better to do. You would think the President has more pressing issues on his plate right now. :roll:


Yes, having more pressing issues on your plate clearly keeps a man from voicing an opinion on lesser one; says a man posting comments on a redskins message board.

I don't get the analogy. :?


It's not really an analogy but I get it.

I got it too, but I was saying that posting on THN is the most pressing issue on my plate. It kind of spoils the joke to have to explain it. :roll:

Agree 100%

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:18 am
by Fan40yrs
Redskins Reparations wrote:The Washington Redskins have not mocked Native Americans by naming the franchise after them but instead honor them. There have also been multiple Native American organizations that expressed publicly that the name is not considered offensive.

Maybe the organization should pay homage to Native Americans to include public awareness, donations, scholarships, etc to Native American organizations. Then maybe the name would be viewed as a positive rather than a negative.

When was the last time a professional sports franchise changed their name due to public pressure and/or political correctness? This subject opens the door to other Non-Native American offensive team names as well.

[b]The politicians that bring this subject to the forefront should focus on more important issues...
[ Our Nation is in Crisis and reporters are asking the President about a Football Teams name??? What in the world are people thinking........OR are they?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:02 am
by ATX_Skins
I was born in the 80's. I'm all out of white guilt.

Keep the name.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:12 am
by riggofan
fredp45 wrote:This President is so clueless -- why does he feel the need to enter into issues about the NFL???


He didn't "feel the need". He was ASKED.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:13 am
by riggofan
StorminMormon86 wrote:I'm not one of these idiots who blames Obama for the deficit, screwing health care, etc. but damn this guy needs to stop sticking his nose in issues that have no relevance to the state of this country. Although I suspect he was asked a question and simply answered it and the sharks came to the chum to blow it out of proportion like usual.


lol. Ya think?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:58 am
by DaveD1420
How fast did we get to the Nazi/Hitler comparison?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:14 am
by SkinsJock
riggofan wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:I'm not one of these idiots who blames Obama for the deficit, screwing health care, etc. but damn this guy needs to stop sticking his nose in issues that have no relevance to the state of this country. Although I suspect he was asked a question and simply answered it and the sharks came to the chum to blow it out of proportion like usual.

lol. Ya think?

I agree that he was just asked a question and that he just 'responded' ... AND he also knew what the media (sharks) would do :lol:

He knew EXACTLY what he was doing ... He just continues to show that he does not have a clue

O O still equals NOTHING ... :shock:

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:33 am
by fredp45
yeah, he was asked...BUT -- as President, STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS STUFF...was he asked about the Trayvon Martin case? He needs to realize he isn't a community organizer anymore. Maybe he can replace Al Sharpton, as the "voice of reason" once he leaves office.

A perfectly good response to the Redskin name issue would have been...

I know this is an issue, I know the NFL and Redskins are looking at the issue.

He doesn't need to give his leanings on everything.

Crap, we need to ask what he thinks about the throw Tony Romo made yesterday after throwing for 500 yards, let's ask the f'ing President!

The guy has NO clue how to run this country. I do feel sorry for him that he has Reid and Pelosy as his alleys!! OMG.

Back to the thread -- leave the name as is...this Political Correctness stuff is over the top.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:30 pm
by riggofan
fredp45 wrote:Crap, we need to ask what he thinks about the throw Tony Romo made yesterday after throwing for 500 yards, let's ask the f'ing President!


I don't agree with your politics, but I get what you're saying. But again, if you want to be annoyed about it, then be annoyed at the clueless reporter or whoever it was that felt this was an appropriate question for the President. I don't blame Obama for giving his honest opinion about the matter. Is anybody actually surprised by his opinion? I doubt it. Does his opinion actually affect yours? Of course not. So why all of the fake outrage?

Its not just the President. They asked the same question in the VA Governors debate.

And all of this "Obama doesn't know how to run the country" stuff is hilarious. A bunch of wingnut teabaggers have shut the government down and about to drive the economy off the cliff by defaulting on our debt. Sorry, but it ain't Obama who is clueless. What a freaking JOKE.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:39 pm
by fredp45
"Fake outrage" -- not fake and not outrage, just sick of this Administration...I'm done with this thread...

On a much happier note -- I'm old enough to remember Riggo...love that guy. Have a 44 jersey I wear to games.

Always thought he'd be a great color commentary for MNF.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:49 pm
by DarthMonk
fredp45 wrote:
He doesn't need to give his leanings ...


I must have missed the part where he said which way he leans on the name.