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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:48 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Kirk Cousins at this point when we have so many needs at other positions???
What gives???
This is not right no matter what spin anybody puts in it.
Crazy
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:52 pm
by Red_One43
Massie is off the board.
Cardinals
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:52 pm
by Countertrey
I don't have a problem with the pick, RiC. It will eventually pan out as a shrewd move...
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:54 pm
by andyjens89
Better long-term solution than Grossman, Beck, or Crompton
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:58 pm
by Deadskins
Countertrey wrote:I don't have a problem with the pick, RiC. It will eventually pan out as a shrewd move...
+1
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:58 pm
by the poster
CanesSkins26 wrote:Not a fan of our 3rd round pick, but the Cousins pick was really smart IMO. As much as we all like RGIII, he isn't a guaranteed success
he isn't a guaranteed success???? that's your reasoning for drafting another qb onto a team with one of the worst rosters in the NFL???
your team just spent 3 first round draft picks and a high 2nd round draft pick on the guy and all u can say is he isn't a guarantteed success so the team should use another draft pick on another qb???
you sir are one of those certified Kool aid drinkers. enjoy the fail.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:01 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
1niksder wrote:mastdark81 wrote:DONT WE HAVE THE SAME SCOUTING DEPT SINCE VINNY WAS HERE?
Mostly, but know they get to do their jobs
There was a great article on the WP about this. They dept is the same but they weren't given the proper tools to do their jobs and weren't really consulted.
Totally different dept, but the same.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:02 pm
by Deadskins
Redskin in Canada wrote:Kirk Cousins at this point when we have so many needs at other positions???
What gives???
This is not right no matter what spin anybody puts in it.
Crazy
Are you there? Did you go Thursday?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:04 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Just because they took the BPA in Cousins doesn't mean other areas won't be addressed.
- we have more picks
- we will have free agent rookies
- round 2 of free agency starts after the draft when teams release veterans at positions they've drafted at.
- John Beck is gone now, that will free up cap sPace.
- maybe we get a 6th or a 7th for CromPton?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:05 pm
by 1niksder
CanesSkins26 wrote:Not a fan of our 3rd round pick, but the Cousins pick was really smart IMO. As much as we all like RGIII, he isn't a guaranteed success and this move gives us good depth, plus puts us in a position to get some value in a possible trade if Cousins develops well.
+1
Countertrey wrote:I don't have a problem with the pick, RiC. It will eventually pan out as a shrewd move...
+1
andyjens89 wrote:Better long-term solution than Grossman, Beck, or Crompton
+1
the poster wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:Not a fan of our 3rd round pick, but the Cousins pick was really smart IMO. As much as we all like RGIII, he isn't a guaranteed success
he isn't a guaranteed success???? that's your reasoning for drafting another qb onto a team with one of the worst rosters in the NFL???
your team just spent 3 first round draft picks and a high 2nd round draft pick on the guy and all u can say is he isn't a guarantteed success so the team should use another draft pick on another qb???
you sir are one of those certified Kool aid drinkers. enjoy the fail.
You REALLY don't know anything. DO YOU?
CS26 a kool aid drinker
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:08 pm
by Red_One43
Would you look at that Joe Looney just got drafted.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:09 pm
by 1niksder
Redskins up next, maybe they're taking Kellen Moore.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:10 pm
by andyjens89
Keenan Robinson - LB - Texas
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:11 pm
by 1niksder
Still have a 5th, two 6th-rounders and two 7th-rounders after this.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:11 pm
by Red_One43
1niksder wrote:Redskins up next, maybe they're taking Kellen Moore.
Shanny wants to make up for not drafting QBs in the last two drafts.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:12 pm
by 1niksder
Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:13 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
He's an OLB, right?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:14 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Deadskins wrote:SkinsJock wrote:the problem we used to have was that Dumb and Dumber did what many fans here want to do - bring in the 'BEST AVAILABLE TALENT'
ALL of these guys have talent - they are the top 200+ players coming out of college
thankfully for the Redskins, those fans (and dumb and dumber) are not running things here
this FO and the group supporting them are ONLY looking to add players that suit what we need - NOT players with talent
this franchise is heading in the right direction again BECAUSE we don't just add the best player available
GOTTA LOVE this FO
I couldn't disagree more with both points you made. I think Bruce and Mike
are bringing in the BPA. The difference between they and Vinny is that they actually know who the BPA is.
Totally agree. You win by drafting talent, not for position. Position is a consideration but BPA is far more weighted. Cousins blew the ridiculous Shannahan drafting for position theory out of the water.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:14 pm
by the poster
now they a 4-3 olb. u better hope the rg3 character becomes John elway because it's been an f draft since that pick and it will get shanahan fired if he doesn't become a star and fast.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:15 pm
by 1niksder
Chris Luva Luva wrote:He's an OLB, right?
Nope.... played OLB at Texas A&M but is
projected as a ILB
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:16 pm
by Burgundy&Wha?
The problem with the thinking on the Cousins pick is this: If we took him to groom in the hopes of trading him for a 2nd rounder in a couple of years, we're wrong in doing so. We are risking his performance on a future 2nd round pick. Why? If a pick in a lower round this year is worth (in trade) a round ahead the following year, and even one round ahead of that in two years, then we should have just found a trade a trade partner pick-for-pick now. It's less risky.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:17 pm
by andyjens89
I don't care who we draft, as long as we win games.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:20 pm
by Red_One43
Red_One43 wrote:I like CB as a possible pick, but I am going to go with an ILB. Somewhere out there is another Perry Riley type that can sit behind Fletch for a couple of years.
Since the Cousins pick was purely a BPA and surprising at that - do I get credit for making the call on the ILB as our next 4th round pick?
nfldraftscout.com lists keenan Robinson as an ILB.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:21 pm
by Burgundy&Wha?
andyjens89 wrote:I don't care who we draft, as long as we win games.
Then you better care who we draft.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:23 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
1niksder wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:He's an OLB, right?
Nope.... played OLB at Texas A&M but is
projected as a ILB
Thank you.