2019 NFL DRAFT

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Skins traded their comp pick to Buffalo for #112 and #131 in the 4th round.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Just saw an interview with McLaurin. He sounds too intelligent to be a receiver.

[Sonny9TD]

Skins traded their comp pick to Buffalo for #112 and #131 in the 4th round.

I was wondering what happened

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Skins traded their comp pick to Buffalo for #112 and #131 in the 4th round.

That explains it... Kept looking online for our next pick not to see it

[Sonny9TD]

Just saw an interview with McLaurin. He sounds too intelligent to be a receiver.

Easy

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

The more you find out?
Did you watch his film breakdown I linked? Super impressive football iq from a sophmore.

Every draftee is a risk, and he is widely viewed as a higher floor then most. A knock for experience and doesnt have 4.4 speed. Cus Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, and Breezy all run 4.3 40s?

Not sure what you mean. I said both OSU receivers ran a 4.3 forty says Todd McShay. Not sure what those QBs ran but I sure hope you weren't comparing Haskins to those QBs. I must have misunderstood what you meant.

I was talking about qbs who dont have a ton of speed- like Haskins. What was your critique on his actual skill set? I just read DS this DS that Drew Lock Rosen etc etc... Didnt see anywhere that you have actually watched him play or talk x's and o's.... Real question

[Sonny9TD]

The more you find out?
Did you watch his film breakdown I linked? Super impressive football iq from a sophmore.

Every draftee is a risk, and he is widely viewed as a higher floor then most. A knock for experience and doesnt have 4.4 speed. Cus Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, and Breezy all run 4.3 40s?

Not sure what you mean. I said both OSU receivers ran a 4.3 forty says Todd McShay. Not sure what those QBs ran but I sure hope you weren't comparing Haskins to those QBs. I must have misunderstood what you meant.

I was talking about qbs who dont have a ton of speed- like Haskins. What was your critique on his actual skill set? I just read DS this DS that Drew Lock Rosen etc etc... Didnt see anywhere that you have actually watched him play or talk x's and o's.... Real question

Saw highlights where receivers were wide open. Read where Haskins had a great offensive line and Meyer changed the offense so that receivers had single coverage . Read where he still had trouble throwing to receivers with single coverage at times. Single coverage is the best it gets. An ideal situation in college but it won't be anywhere near as easy in the pros. Point being he had all day to throw to 4.3 receivers in single coverage. Welcome to the NFL. No more DBs who run a 4.6. Maybe one of the DBs ran a 4.5 on a few teams but Ohio State had burners on both sides in single coverage. An ideal situation. Real answer.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Ok. Well I SAW differently. While EVERY highlight reel has wide open passes i also saw- Looking off defenders, going through reads, anticipation, throwing recievers open... Kind of felt Lock only pulled the trigger when they were wide open- as echoed by Carr.

Meyer changed the O from a run first with Zeke to an aerial assualt with DH. His IQ and arm stand out to me... Other attributes are easily learned if you have those two key ingredients.

I think your critique can be applied to any rookie qb or rookie period- welcome to the NFL kids.

Sounds like you are rooting against him before we even see him in action... I cant get with that- except for nyg, fecals, and dullass.. Im already rooting against everyone they drafted!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Not even half of his TDs went to those 2 burners btw...

Kyler had Brown and Lamb to huck it up to... Are we discounting those numbers too? I mean, ya the qb has to throw to someone, can't just throw to himself...

Point is to get a qb, protect him, and surround with weapons ya?

[Sonny9TD]

Not even half of his TDs went to those 2 burners btw...

Kyler had Brown and Lamb to huck it up to... Are we discounting those numbers too? I mean, ya the qb has to throw to someone, can't just throw to himself...

Point is to get a qb, protect him, and surround with weapons ya?

Sure but he isn't going to be able to do what he did at Ohio State. Not by a longshot. And when he finds everyone covered in the pros and the heat comes in he can;t scramble for a first down so he forces throws and reality sets in we aren't much better than we were. And now to find out we could have had Rosen for way way less. We basically gave two second round picks for a QB the same as all the others who played in an offense that doesn't exist in the pros while Rosen mow knows exactly what it's like with experience, talent, and a cheaper price Danny could have and should have brought to DC but got smitten somehow.

Lots of QBs with strong arms who can't run. Rosen more athletic better accuracy for way less. Thats the difference and it's a huge difference at the most important position in football. Rosen is ready Haskins is not. Not to mention the talent and price difference. I'm pizzed he let someone better get away from us again.

Having said that here's hoping we got the next Warren Moon but I don't see it.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Who says he cant scramble for a first?

If Rosen is so great, why did Az send him packing?

And we "basically" gave a 15th overall pick for Haskins, nothing else. I dont care if anyone changes your mind on him honestly... I just wish the best for the kid and hope he can be the qb we have needed for some time now.
Warren Moon? Whats the comparrison

[DEHog]

Here's another positive for getting Haskins at 15, it also answers the reason why Haskins looked a bit dejected during the draft. With every pick he had to deal with millions (8 mil) being lost...


6 Giants Daniel Jones $25.7 million $16.6 million


15 Redskins Dwayne Haskins $14.5 million $8.8 million

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Here's another positive for getting Haskins at 15, it also answers the reason why Haskins looked a bit dejected during the draft. With every pick he had to deal with millions (8 mil) being lost...


6 Giants Daniel Jones $25.7 million $16.6 million


15 Redskins Dwayne Haskins $14.5 million $8.8 million

He was definitely salty that NYG took Jones over him. Felt like he earned a top ten pick. Most had him going that high.
Im ok with a chip on his shoulder though

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I'm just going to leave this here:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... seJo01.htm

If you can look at that and still prefer Rosen over Haskins there's something wrong with your vision.

[Sonny9TD]

Who says he cant scramble for a first?

If Rosen is so great, why did Az send him packing?

And we "basically" gave a 15th overall pick for Haskins, nothing else. I dont care if anyone changes your mind on him honestly... I just wish the best for the kid and hope he can be the qb we have needed for some time now.
Warren Moon? Whats the comparrison

No we could have had Sweat at 15 and gave 2 2nd rounders for Haskins no matter how it played out. As far as Moon? Big arm same athletic ability and yea i think he is black or do we have to compare him to a white guy to appear politically correct. Ilf so OK lets hope he is a Roethlisberger.

If you don't like Rosen thats cool. But watch what he does in Miami now and we will let both of their play on the field decide this. The war of words has run its course. I actually hope Colt McCoy can run with this thing. Wish we would have drafted Patrict Mahomes 3 years back and the world would be grand. Best QB in the league

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Here's another positive for getting Haskins at 15, it also answers the reason why Haskins looked a bit dejected during the draft. With every pick he had to deal with millions (8 mil) being lost...


6 Giants Daniel Jones $25.7 million $16.6 million


15 Redskins Dwayne Haskins $14.5 million $8.8 million

Quite frankly I'm more about the player than the money but because we gave Alex Smith that idiotic contract the money is important.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I cant play the what if game boss.. We didn't trade back into the first round for Haskins, becuase he 100% would have been gone. Since we cant what if in real life, we have to accept that as a strong possibility, and will never know how far he would have dropped.

I'd be extremely satisfied with a Moon or Big Ben for years to come. His football iq will help him transition- that I can be sure of. Maybe Rosen skips the sophmore slump and kills it in Mia- looked like doodoo in Az tho

[Sonny9TD]

I cant play what the what if game boss.. We didn't trade back into the first round for Haskins, becuase he 100% would have been gone. Since we cant what if in real life, we have to accept that as a strong possibility, and will never know how far he would have dropped.

I'd be extremely satisfied with a Moon or Big Ben for yeats to come. His football iq will help him transition- that I can be sure of. Maybe Rosen skips the sophmore slump and kills it in Mia- looked like doodoo in Az tho

Surely you know Haskins would have slipped to the 2nd 100%. Denver might have got him in the 2nd instead of Lock. Since there was no Haskins better than Lock agreement across the board. It was a toss up and Denver was the first team needing a QB in the 2nd. Nobody was blown away with Haskins except Danny. NO team was trading up to get Haskins. That is a fairy tale. No one except Danny that is and did.

Rosen had the 32 ranked offensive line and the 32 ranked run game. I suppose you think Haskins would have saved the day in Arizona. I think you do.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I cant play what the what if game boss.. We didn't trade back into the first round for Haskins, becuase he 100% would have been gone. Since we cant what if in real life, we have to accept that as a strong possibility, and will never know how far he would have dropped.

I'd be extremely satisfied with a Moon or Big Ben for yeats to come. His football iq will help him transition- that I can be sure of. Maybe Rosen skips the sophmore slump and kills it in Mia- looked like doodoo in Az tho

Warren Moon might have been the best player to ever throw a football at the professional level. If you combine his AFL and NFL stats he threw for well over 70,000 yards. I fail to see why that would be a negative comparison for Haskins.

[Sonny9TD]

I cant play what the what if game boss.. We didn't trade back into the first round for Haskins, becuase he 100% would have been gone. Since we cant what if in real life, we have to accept that as a strong possibility, and will never know how far he would have dropped.

I'd be extremely satisfied with a Moon or Big Ben for yeats to come. His football iq will help him transition- that I can be sure of. Maybe Rosen skips the sophmore slump and kills it in Mia- looked like doodoo in Az tho

Warren Moon might have been the best player to ever throw a football at the professional level. If you combine his AFL and NFL stats he threw for well over 70,000 yards. I fail to see why that would be a negative comparison for Haskins.

Having said that here's hoping we got the next Warren Moon but I don't see it was the comment Giving props to Moon.. ??????????

Sorry i thought you meant that for me

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

More positive reviews on Haskins:

Per my model, these are the five best values from Round 1 of the 2019 NFL Draft, weighing the players' projected output against where they were selected:
1) Dwayne Haskins, QB, Washington Redskins

Drafted No. 15 overall.

Despite having an obvious need at the most important position in the game, the Redskins were able to get the exact quarterback they were targeting without having to give up any trade equity. Last season, the Redskins only threw 16 total passing touchdowns (T-28th in the league) and only averaged 188.8 passing yards per game (also T-28th).

As for Haskins, the one-year starter from Ohio State is my highest-ranked player at the position in this draft and third in my overall rankings. One area that helps drive this? His production against the blitz. Last season, teams tested his mobility using the blitz and Haskins, in turn, carved them up. He threw 22 touchdowns to only two interceptions while only seeing a small decrease in completion percentage when blitzed (72.3 percent from a clean pocket, 65.2 percent when facing the blitz), according to Pro Football Focus. Despite the small on-field sample size that includes an outlier number of touchdowns (50!) last season, there are some clues about what the Redskins are getting in Haskins. One place where the quarterback's predictive indicators are strong? Finishing games. In the fourth quarter last season, he threw 14 touchdowns and only one interception, and his production increased at the end of the season.

Washington had 24 players on injured reserve last season, including seven offensive linemen. In other words, the Redskins were beyond banged up. When healthy, though, Washington's offensive line ranks among the top five units in the league, which will help shorten Haskins' learning curve.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... alue-picks

[riggofan]

Really happy last night to see the team trade down. Great move.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I cant play what the what if game boss.. We didn't trade back into the first round for Haskins, becuase he 100% would have been gone. Since we cant what if in real life, we have to accept that as a strong possibility, and will never know how far he would have dropped.

I'd be extremely satisfied with a Moon or Big Ben for yeats to come. His football iq will help him transition- that I can be sure of. Maybe Rosen skips the sophmore slump and kills it in Mia- looked like doodoo in Az tho

Warren Moon might have been the best player to ever throw a football at the professional level. If you combine his AFL and NFL stats he threw for well over 70,000 yards. I fail to see why that would be a negative comparison for Haskins.

I said Id be EXTREMELY SATISFIED with a Moon OR Big Ben though bro?!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I said Id be EXTREMELY SATISFIED with a Moon OR Big Ben though bro?!

Yea, I knew what you were saying. I saw Steve Smith compare Haskins to Dan Marino. I'd take that, too.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Really happy last night to see the team trade down. Great move.

Yep. The prospects I think they're looking at should still be there and they picked up an extra 4th rounder.