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SkinsJock wrote:I don't think we need to give up picks - someone will be here to back up McCoy and maybe even show he can be the starting QB
I don't disagree with your thinking. The only problem with just signing "someone" is that he'll more than likely be terrible. Anybody decent is going to cost a little more IMO. Either in salary or a trade.

I'll be curious to see what they do. Like I wrote earlier, I don't see Snyder being willing to just tank it next year. Another bad financial hit at the stadium, empty seats and opposing fans at Fedex while they're in the middle of trying to get the new stadium deal? I also think they're all probably a little more desperate than in previous years - from the coach all the way up. Just makes me believe they'll try something crazy. What do you think?
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SkinsJock wrote:I don't think we need to give up picks - someone will be here to back up McCoy and maybe even show he can be the starting QB
I don't disagree with your thinking. The only problem with just signing "someone" is that he'll more than likely be terrible. Anybody decent is going to cost a little more IMO. Either in salary or a trade.

I'll be curious to see what they do. Like I wrote earlier, I don't see Snyder being willing to just tank it next year. Another bad financial hit at the stadium, empty seats and opposing fans at Fedex while they're in the middle of trying to get the new stadium deal? I also think they're all probably a little more desperate than in previous years - from the coach all the way up. Just makes me believe they'll try something crazy. What do you think?
Snyder won't have to try to tank. The team will be awful.
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SkinsJock wrote:I don't think we need to give up picks - someone will be here to back up McCoy and maybe even show he can be the starting QB
I don't disagree with your thinking. The only problem with just signing "someone" is that he'll more than likely be terrible. Anybody decent is going to cost a little more IMO. Either in salary or a trade.

I'll be curious to see what they do. Like I wrote earlier, I don't see Snyder being willing to just tank it next year. Another bad financial hit at the stadium, empty seats and opposing fans at Fedex while they're in the middle of trying to get the new stadium deal? I also think they're all probably a little more desperate than in previous years - from the coach all the way up. Just makes me believe they'll try something crazy. What do you think?
He kept Gruden and Allen....what more proof do you need that he's willing to tank! :lol:
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DEHog wrote:He kept Gruden and Allen....what more proof do you need that he's willing to tank! :lol:
That and the team needs upgrades at almost every position except maybe defensive line.
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Snyder won't have to try to tank. The team will be awful.
I don't disagree, and the odds are you're right about them failing. I'm just saying I don't believe that he'll intentionally tank. My $$ is on them trying to make some crazy move in the next few months.
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Snyder won't have to try to tank. The team will be awful.
I don't disagree, and the odds are you're right about them failing. I'm just saying I don't believe that he'll intentionally tank. My $$ is on them trying to make some crazy move in the next few months.
I agree, man. But not because the owner cares about the quality of the team, but because
he needs some kind of hook to make fans come back to the stadium.

To him, this is a product. He needs a new feature" to sell tickets.

Easiest path to achieve that? Draft or get a new QB.
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riggofan wrote:
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Snyder won't have to try to tank. The team will be awful.
I don't disagree, and the odds are you're right about them failing. I'm just saying I don't believe that he'll intentionally tank. My $$ is on them trying to make some crazy move in the next few months.
I agree, man. But not because the owner cares about the quality of the team, but because
he needs some kind of hook to make fans come back to the stadium.

To him, this is a product. He needs a new feature" to sell tickets.

Easiest path to achieve that? Draft or get a new QB.
Unless they're also planning on trading for Antonio Brown it won't matter who they draft at QB because they have trash receivers.
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riggofan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:I don't think we need to give up picks - someone will be here to back up McCoy and maybe even show he can be the starting QB
I don't disagree with your thinking. The only problem with just signing "someone" is that he'll more than likely be terrible. Anybody decent is going to cost a little more IMO. Either in salary or a trade.

I'll be curious to see what they do. Like I wrote earlier, I don't see Snyder being willing to just tank it next year. Another bad financial hit at the stadium, empty seats and opposing fans at Fedex while they're in the middle of trying to get the new stadium deal? I also think they're all probably a little more desperate than in previous years - from the coach all the way up. Just makes me believe they'll try something crazy. What do you think?
I agree - I think there will be a concerted effort on everyone's part to do better and Dan & Bruce will try and help any way they can
they could end up getting lucky like they did with AP ...

the problem is that they have to change the culture here and that is not happening with these 2 bozos making stupid decisions
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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Best option is Colt McCoy or Ryan Fitzpatrick and then get the best pash rusher and OL in the first 2 rounds and a WR in round 3. After that best player. The only other real option is Drew Lock if he can be had. He has the arm for sure. But that will lose the best pash rusher if he is selected. It's a gamble that way but Lock is capable. If Fitzpatrick can be had cheap i would go with him and draft a pass rusher, then OL to get that running game to average 4 yards a carry and then a WR to move the chains etc and get a QB in the draft 2020.

We have to get a speed rusher to get to the QB to make up for Linebackers who are weak in coverage. We have to speed up the opposing QB throwing the ball. Pass rusher is priority then a road grading mauler at guard to get this run game dangerous to help out any QB we have that is going to need all the help he can get. Then a WR that can create space or in other words one of the best route running WR we can get. Don't care if he is no speedster. If he can get open he is our man. If he runs a 4.6 forty but can cut on a dime or turn the CB in a circle you know what i'm talking about then he is the one to get.

Again i am available for GM but i want a hefty salary and total control of the draft and player acquisition. I will need a salary cap expert to cover my interests.
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I just hope we load up on as many good players as we can so that when/if we get a new GM, he will be better situated to turn this thing around
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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Sonny9TD wrote:Best option is Colt McCoy or Ryan Fitzpatrick and then get the best pash rusher and OL in the first 2 rounds and the a WR in round 3. After that it's up in the air. The only other real option is Drew Lock if he can be had. He has the arm for sure. But that will lose the best pash rusher if he is selected. It's a gamble that way but Lock is capable. If Fitzpatrick can be had cheap i would go with him and draft a pass rusher, then OL to get that running game to average 4 yards a carry and then a WR to move the chains etc and get a QB in the draft 2020.

We have to get a speed rusher to get to the QB to make up for Linebackers who are weak in coverage. We have to speed up the opposing QB throwing the ball. Pass rusher is priority then a road grading mauler at guard to get this run game dangerous to help out any QB we have that is going to need all the help he can get. Then a WR that can create space or in other words one of the best route running WR we can get. Don't care if he is no speedster. If he can get open he is our man. If he runs a 4.6 forty but can cut on a dime or turn the CB in a circle you know what i'm talking about then he is the one to get.
I appreciate you still having faith in this team giving a *sh$t* about improving or even knowing how to go about it. My money is on them not knowing and not caring.
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SkinsJock wrote:do better and Dan & Bruce will try and help any way they can
they could end up getting lucky like they did with AP ...
Wasn't the story there that Doug Williams signed AP without telling them or something?? :D
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Sonny9TD wrote:Best option is Colt McCoy or Ryan Fitzpatrick and then get the best pash rusher and OL in the first 2 rounds
Is Fitzpatrick an option? Could do worse for a stop gap, and he's not boring. We'd get an exciting mix of 400 yard games and six INT games.
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riggofan wrote:
Sonny9TD wrote:Best option is Colt McCoy or Ryan Fitzpatrick and then get the best pash rusher and OL in the first 2 rounds
Is Fitzpatrick an option? Could do worse for a stop gap, and he's not boring. We'd get an exciting mix of 400 yard games and six INT games.

Yes he can be had and your description of him is right on the money
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riggofan wrote:
Sonny9TD wrote:Best option is Colt McCoy or Ryan Fitzpatrick and then get the best pash rusher and OL in the first 2 rounds
Is Fitzpatrick an option? Could do worse for a stop gap, and he's not boring. We'd get an exciting mix of 400 yard games and six INT games.
There won't be any 400 yard games with this offense. [-X
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:There won't be any 400 yard games with this offense. [-X
Such sad lack of faith in Fitzmagic, sir! :)
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riggofan wrote:
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:There won't be any 400 yard games with this offense. [-X
Such sad lack of faith in Fitzmagic, sir! :)
I'm just disgusted with this franchise. I don't think I've ever even come close to this level of apathy before. We've been through some really rough times with this team but the one thing that has always kept us going is the "wait until next year" school of thinking the team is trying to improve. The team isn't trying to improve and they openly admit it. I have never wished for anything more than for the NFL to have an out clause in their franchise agreements where they could force owners like Dan Snyder to sell.
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I'm just disgusted with this franchise. I don't think I've ever even come close to this level of apathy before. We've been through some really rough times with this team but the one thing that has always kept us going is the "wait until next year" school of thinking the team is trying to improve.
You gotta change your approach, man. Less "rabid fandom" and more "morbid curiosity". Follow this team like the imminent dumpster fire it is.

I'm really on board with the whole "how much worse can this actually get" thing. I would never in a million years have guessed it was going to be Alex Smith broken leg here's your new starter Mark Sanchez bad this year. My only regret is that Jay didn't call the Swinging Gate play. WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR!!!
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riggofan wrote:
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I'm just disgusted with this franchise. I don't think I've ever even come close to this level of apathy before. We've been through some really rough times with this team but the one thing that has always kept us going is the "wait until next year" school of thinking the team is trying to improve.
You gotta change your approach, man. Less "rabid fandom" and more "morbid curiosity". Follow this team like the imminent dumpster fire it is.

I'm really on board with the whole "how much worse can this actually get" thing. I would never in a million years have guessed it was going to be Alex Smith broken leg here's your new starter Mark Sanchez bad this year. My only regret is that Jay didn't call the Swinging Gate play. WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR!!!
Well, in that case they need to hire Rex Ryan to coach the outside linebackers or something. Maybe lure Brett Favre out of retirement.
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Washington may look at bringing back RB Adrian Peterson. El-Bashir writes that the Redskins’ top two free agent targets should be S Landon Collins and QB Tyrod Taylor.
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Washington may look at bringing back RB Adrian Peterson. El-Bashir writes that the Redskins’ top two free agent targets should be S Landon Collins and QB Tyrod Taylor.
Considering they don't know what they have in Guice, or even if they have anything in Guice, that would be a wise decision.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Guice back, but realistically isn't it like two years before these RBs really come back from the ACL?
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riggofan wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing Guice back, but realistically isn't it like two years before these RBs really come back from the ACL?
Some of them never make it back. ACL injuries are hard to predict in terms of recovery. I also find it odd how we're not hearing much about Guice from anyone at Redskins Park.
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riggofan wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing Guice back, but realistically isn't it like two years before these RBs really come back from the ACL?
Some of them never make it back. ACL injuries are hard to predict in terms of recovery. I also find it odd how we're not hearing much about Guice from anyone at Redskins Park.
Yeah, true.

I've definitely seen some video posted of him recently working out at Ashburn. Doing drills, cutting and stuff. I'm probably not as worried about him never coming back. But I think it would be crazy to expect him to be the day 1 starter in 2019, and I hope they'll be conservative with bringing him along.
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