Start Cousins & Try To Make Playoffs

[SkinsJock]

Good to hear the reports that Cousins knows who is better suited to be our QB

we are very fortunate to have Cousins as the back up but hopefully Griffin can get well soon and get back under center

Cousins is a good QB but Griffin is clearly a lot more dynamic

[markshark84]

Good to hear the reports that Cousins knows who is better suited to be our QB

we are very fortunate to have Cousins as the back up but hopefully Griffin can get well soon and get back under center

Cousins is a good QB but Griffin is clearly a lot more dynamic

Cousins knows his role on this team --- but that doesn't mean he isn't going to try and change it. As long as he isn't the biggest idiot on the planet (which I don't think he is) Counsins knows the opportunity he has in front of him.

RGIII will most likely be out the entire season...... or at least long enough where bringing him back so late in the year wouldn't make sense.

I don't think anyone can question that RGIII is more dynamic, but that means very little --- Kaepernick is more dynamic than Brees and Manning, but who would you take? Who is the better QB will come down to production. I personally believe that Counsins did a great job (his 93.7 QBR was IMPRESSIVE), but it was against JAC so while it is nice, it doesn't mean very much. RGIII was looking GOOD before the injury also.

I personally think anyone is crazy who doesn't think that if Cousins plays lights out this year he can steal the job away from RGIII. BUT BUT BUT --- he'll need to play lights out. A "game manager" type year will not be nearly enough. RGIII has too much upside and has shown enough to roll the dice on him next year vs. a game manager type QB. Personally, I don't think Cousins is close to being a "game manager". He throws downfield and takes chances.

It will be a VERY interesting next couple months......

[riggofan]

Good to hear the reports that Cousins knows who is better suited to be our QB

we are very fortunate to have Cousins as the back up but hopefully Griffin can get well soon and get back under center

Cousins is a good QB but Griffin is clearly a lot more dynamic

I hear what you're saying, but being a more dynamic athlete doesn't necessarily mean that he's the better QB does it?

I just find these types of pronouncements as off base as people who were out there after the Texans game saying that Cousins was CLEARLY better than RGIII. Nothing is clear to me about either of these guys yet. I don't think either of them has proven anything.

Hated to see RGIII go down, but I'm looking forward to seeing what Cousins can do. If he goes out and proves he's the better option at QB, then so be it.

[riggofan]

Cousins knows his role on this team --- but that doesn't mean he isn't going to try and change it. As long as he isn't the biggest idiot on the planet (which I don't think he is) Counsins knows the opportunity he has in front of him.

You're 100% correct. Cousins is a classy guy and a good teammate. His comments that "This is Robert's team" were EXACTLY what you would expect from a guy like that. I still want and expect him to go out there and play like he wants to win the job.

[hanburgerheel]

Good to hear the reports that Cousins knows who is better suited to be our QB

we are very fortunate to have Cousins as the back up but hopefully Griffin can get well soon and get back under center

Cousins is a good QB but Griffin is clearly a lot more dynamic

I hear what you're saying, but being a more dynamic athlete doesn't necessarily mean that he's the better QB does it?

I just find these types of pronouncements as off base as people who were out there after the Texans game saying that Cousins was CLEARLY better than RGIII. Nothing is clear to me about either of these guys yet. I don't think either of them has proven anything.

Hated to see RGIII go down, but I'm looking forward to seeing what Cousins can do. If he goes out and proves he's the better option at QB, then so be it.

I truly believe that RG3's mental abilities are much more dynamic and maybe even superior. But, from what I have seen (even in his college career), his body is just prone to inury... for whatever reason(s). That was always my biggest aversion to him from the very start. It wasn't any lack of ability or potent threat. He has that! He has that in abundance! His BODY is the liability for the NFL.

[StorminMormon86]

Hated to see RGIII go down, but I'm looking forward to seeing what Cousins can do. If he goes out and proves he's the better option at QB, then so be it.

This is exactly how I feel too. A full season with Cousins as the starter is a win-win, especially for Gruden. At best, he has a QB controversy going into next year. At worst, he has a solid backup who can fill in when the starter goes down.

[Countertrey]

Cousins is going to do everything he possibly can to make the job his permanently.
I will have no problem if he succeeds.
I want the Redskins to win the Super Bowl... and remember very well how Tom Brady got his job.

Assuming Bob gets cleared before the end of the season (which I doubt), I think the only way he plays again this year requires either a disastrous season record, or an injury to Cousins.
There will be a fierce battle next summer. That's when it could get ugly. Until then, let's just pull for our team.

[Deadskins]

How many seasons have to be pissed away before people like you realize RG3 is a bust?

At least one?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I truly hope Cousins plays lights out and brings home another conference title...

Then both qbs can go at it in the offseason...

Robert backing up cousins and or using both is an option too.

The "I told you so" people tho, I cant stand you. Griff had decent game (accurate no pics decent yardage) vs Houston whos D is proving to be formidable. . Oak town sucks but Houston smoked em- maybe our guys took them to lightly?
Griff also was looking sharp yesterday- even completed the pass AFTER blowing out his ankle!- and very well coulda shoulda woulda had an excellent game. Point being he didnt play long enough this season to say where he was or what he is capable of.

I guess im just saddened that we cant support both guys and see what happens. Griffin has sacrificed his body for this team and the fans that spit on him can suck it.
Bust?! R u fn serious with that crap? The man just blew up his ankle (arthritis when he is older?) and youre gonna take cheap shots at him??

**2012 called... wants you to know that all those records, even if they are EVER broken... means the bust card can NEVER be played.

Httr httrg3 and hail to Captain Kirk- BEAT PHILLY.

[Irn-Bru]

Of course it isn't. I can guarantee you that if Kirk Cousins plays like vintage Tom Brady or Petyon Manning, he's going to remain the starter for as long as that's true. Most people, however, aren't assuming that's going to happen, which is what you are taking to be evidence that they are evidence-ignoring believers.

Personally, I don't think Cousins needs to play Manning or Brady-like to get the job...he only needs to play better than RG3 and I believe he's already doing that...

So? You said that no amount of evidence would make RGIII fans change their minds and think that Cousins should start. I've just pointed out that if Cousins plays well enough, of course nearly everyone will think he should keep playing, including the coaches who will make the call.

That means you are wrong, regardless of whether you think Cousins has already played better than RGIII.

I accept your concession and apology in advance.

[riggofan]

I truly believe that RG3's mental abilities are much more dynamic and maybe even superior. But, from what I have seen (even in his college career), his body is just prone to inury... for whatever reason(s). That was always my biggest aversion to him from the very start. It wasn't any lack of ability or potent threat. He has that! He has that in abundance! His BODY is the liability for the NFL.

I don't really know if that's true or not. I heard a Dr. of some sort interviewed on the radio yesterday, and he was pretty adamant that injury prone isn't a fair label when it comes to this particular injury. Its a pretty freak thing. And am I wrong, or did he play all of last season without getting hurt?

There is something about the way he runs and slides and all of that though where I'm worried for him on every single play. So I do understand where you're coming from.

[Skins Fan in Indy]

I was crushed when RGIII went down and it was because of a freak thing that he got injured. To me it wasn't as if he was getting himself into clear and present danger like how he was injured before. I was sad and worried but here comes Capt Kirk and boom there he goes..TOUCHDOWN. I had friends grilling me because I was happy for Cousins and he was doing well. It is the team, the Washington Redskins and Cousins now has the keys, for how long we don't no?, how well Cousins do?. The answers will soon come soon enough but just because RGIII is down doesn't mean I wont cheer for Cousins just as loud and just as proud as I did for RGIII. They are the Washington Redskins and they are my TEAM. I must admit I was one of the ones that thought we should trade Cousins if the price was right this off season so I am glad the price was wrong!!.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I was crushed when RGIII went down and it was because of a freak thing that he got injured. To me it wasn't as if he was getting himself into clear and present danger like how he was injured before. I was sad and worried but here comes Capt Kirk and boom there he goes..TOUCHDOWN. I had friends grilling me because I was happy for Cousins and he was doing well. It is the team, the Washington Redskins and Cousins now has the keys, for how long we don't no?, how well Cousins do?. The answers will soon come soon enough but just because RGIII is down doesn't mean I wont cheer for Cousins just as loud and just as proud as I did for RGIII. They are the Washington Redskins and they are my TEAM. I must admit I was one of the ones that thought we should trade Cousins if the price was right this off season so I am glad the price was wrong!!.

Good post. Im a little defensive whwn people say "now we are better.." yadda yadda but at the end of the day I support the qb no matter whonit is.
Becksy
Rexy
Mcnugget
Brunell
Ferrot

You name it.
IF Cousins kills it- this D looks like it will be a big help to position him to win.. then I will be pumped. If and when there is a qb battle- so be it. Until then it the Cousins show- and I really like what our chances are, aswell as how he has handled it on AND off the field- another standup guy

[Deadskins]

I must admit I was one of the ones that thought we should trade Cousins if the price was right this off season so I am glad the price was wrong!!.

I was one of those too, and would still feel like it was the correct decision if the price had been right. I'd be hanging my hopes on Colt McCoy now, but wouldn't be ashamed to root for him either.

[hanburgerheel]

I truly believe that RG3's mental abilities are much more dynamic and maybe even superior. But, from what I have seen (even in his college career), his body is just prone to inury... for whatever reason(s). That was always my biggest aversion to him from the very start. It wasn't any lack of ability or potent threat. He has that! He has that in abundance! His BODY is the liability for the NFL.

I don't really know if that's true or not. I heard a Dr. of some sort interviewed on the radio yesterday, and he was pretty adamant that injury prone isn't a fair label when it comes to this particular injury. Its a pretty freak thing. And am I wrong, or did he play all of last season without getting hurt?

There is something about the way he runs and slides and all of that though where I'm worried for him on every single play. So I do understand where you're coming from.

Yes, he managed to not RE-injure anything. But he had to play with restriction all season. When you have to restrict your true gift- that what makes you special- then you aren't really utilizing the gift! He finally lets the reins loose and BAM, another serious injury. I just don't think, and never thought, his physicality and body are going to be able to produce what is needed long-term. It's barely delivered in the short-term. He has been injured, playing with injury, or some variation since about November/December 2012. It would be awesome if his stature and body could withstand what his mind and ability want it to do, but it doesn't look like that is very likely. I saw him a lot his last 2 years at Baylor and I remember thinking, vividly, he would never last long in the NFL because of his stature and build coupled with how he has developed his abilities and skills would wind up getting him hurt... often and then he'd wind up in the dustbin. Given all of these circumstances, he has done very well for himself financially and leaving some kind of legacy in the NFL. I just do not ever expect to see him morph into a QB on the level of Kaepernick, Wilson, Newton, or any other running QB that excelled as running QB's in college and in the NFL, so far. He's just built so tight and he's really not LARGE enough to withstand a great deal. These injuries are also the kinds of injuries that make long careers very short.

[OldSchool]

Good to hear the reports that Cousins knows who is better suited to be our QB

we are very fortunate to have Cousins as the back up but hopefully Griffin can get well soon and get back under center

Cousins is a good QB but Griffin is clearly a lot more dynamic

I highly doubt Kirk Cousins really thinks Griffin is better than him. Sure Cousins is smart enough and graceful enough to say the polite thing but in his own mind he certainly knows he can run the offense quicker and better than Griffin. The Skins are talking about opening up the playbook because Cousins can do more and handle more plays. The offense is going to get more dynamic because much more able man is in the pocket now, Gruden can't conceal his glee he's as giddy as a school girl.

[Countertrey]

Next week will tell much... a game against a decent defense, that has most of a week to prepare for THIS quarterback. There's plenty of tape on Cousins... Three "meh" games last year... 7 picks, 4 TD's... I don't see that as a problem this year... When a WCO quarterback has 4 receivers who can make plays, you can't take away the "go to" guy. That really handicaps a defense. I think Kirk, bolstered by an effective run game, will pick the Eagles apart, tossing in a few downfield shots. The question is, can Haslett's crew frustrate the circus that is the Eagles O?

[Neo]

Of course it isn't. I can guarantee you that if Kirk Cousins plays like vintage Tom Brady or Petyon Manning, he's going to remain the starter for as long as that's true. Most people, however, aren't assuming that's going to happen, which is what you are taking to be evidence that they are evidence-ignoring believers.

Personally, I don't think Cousins needs to play Manning or Brady-like to get the job...he only needs to play better than RG3 and I believe he's already doing that...

I can honestly say that when I saw RG3 go down, and he looked seriously injured, my first instinct was "Well, we have a good back-up QB and I'm more used to Griffin being hurt, hampered, or otherwise NOT 100%, than healthy, so I'm not that pessimistic about our chances just because he's hurt." The guy seems to be VERY injury-prone, even by his own actions. I realize that his injury yesterday was a fluke, but it's less of a fluke when the guy who is injured has been injured or recovering from injury for almost all of his short pro career.

Its interesting that you don't hear this crap about Jordan Reed who is hurt far more often than Robert. Yet I don't hear people saying "bench Reed, start Niles." No, you put Reed back in the game as soon as he's healthy because he will always out perform Niles.

So why is it that this discussion comes up when RG3 goes down? Cousins is good, so is Niles, but RG3 nor Reed will ever be uprooted by them. Im very skeptical we will get to see 2012 RG3 again, but the logic i just presented in the last paragraph is evidence enough that some flat out have a personal issue with RG3. Its like a fan wanting the team to lose just to satisfy this personal vendetta. Enough with the BS...wipe and flush..




Wash those hands!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Neo-

Sadly. .. there are some on here who WANT rg3 to get hurt or perform badly.. for reasons unknown to probably even them selves. Its a shame more people cant support BOTH qbs AT THE SAME TIME. I choose to ignore a few posters, because i know they have a personal agenda against Robert, and want anything BUT for him to be successful.

[FLWSkin]

I guess if Kirk goes 15-40 on Sunday and lose, those people will start telling us how McCoy really is the better guy and he should get a shot.....

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I guess if Kirk goes 15-40 on Sunday and lose, those people will start telling us how McCoy really is the better guy and he should get a shot.....

You didnt see McCoy in preseason running this offense did you??
Its clear coaches are playing favorites- which is of course Danny boys fault for still tinkering w football affairs.. but Colt was by far the best player on the field- hands down. His years in Cleveland has tought him how to read defenses and he is a true pocket passer with vision. Im actually surprised that we beat out Denver and New England for the future heir apparent.

[FLWSkin]

I guess if Kirk goes 15-40 on Sunday and lose, those people will start telling us how McCoy really is the better guy and he should get a shot.....

You didnt see McCoy in preseason running this offense did you??
Its clear coaches are playing favorites- which is of course Danny boys fault for still tinkering w football affairs.. but Colt was by far the best player on the field- hands down. His years in Cleveland has tought him how to read defenses and he is a true pocket passer with vision. Im actually surprised that we beat out Denver and New England for the future heir apparent.

I'm waiting for people to say Jason Campbell finally gets it and he needs to come back where he belongs....

[Neo]

Neo-

Sadly. .. there are some on here who WANT rg3 to get hurt or perform badly.. for reasons unknown to probably even them selves. Its a shame more people cant support BOTH qbs AT THE SAME TIME. I choose to ignore a few posters, because i know they have a personal agenda against Robert, and want anything BUT for him to be successful.

Good post man. I'm with you on supporting them both. Whichever is doing well means the team will be doing well; that's all I care about.

Last Sunday I saw a good Redskins offense and defense in the same game. Most fun I had watching these guys in a while.

[Neo]

I guess if Kirk goes 15-40 on Sunday and lose, those people will start telling us how McCoy really is the better guy and he should get a shot.....

You didnt see McCoy in preseason running this offense did you??
Its clear coaches are playing favorites- which is of course Danny boys fault for still tinkering w football affairs.. but Colt was by far the best player on the field- hands down. His years in Cleveland has tought him how to read defenses and he is a true pocket passer with vision. Im actually surprised that we beat out Denver and New England for the future heir apparent.

I'm waiting for people to say Jason Campbell finally gets it and he needs to come back where he belongs....

Add Rexy to the list and you fellas are onto something big

[hanburgerheel]

I can honestly say that when I saw RG3 go down, and he looked seriously injured, my first instinct was "Well, we have a good back-up QB and I'm more used to Griffin being hurt, hampered, or otherwise NOT 100%, than healthy, so I'm not that pessimistic about our chances just because he's hurt." The guy seems to be VERY injury-prone, even by his own actions. I realize that his injury yesterday was a fluke, but it's less of a fluke when the guy who is injured has been injured or recovering from injury for almost all of his short pro career.[/quote]

Its interesting that you don't hear this crap about Jordan Reed who is hurt far more often than Robert. Yet I don't hear people saying "bench Reed, start Niles." No, you put Reed back in the game as soon as he's healthy because he will always out perform Niles.

So why is it that this discussion comes up when RG3 goes down? Cousins is good, so is Niles, but RG3 nor Reed will ever be uprooted by them. Im very skeptical we will get to see 2012 RG3 again, but the logic i just presented in the last paragraph is evidence enough that some flat out have a personal issue with RG3. Its like a fan wanting the team to lose just to satisfy this personal vendetta. Enough with the BS...wipe and flush..




Wash those hands![/quote]


Yeah... that's it. genius. You found me out. Robert stole my girlfriend at Baylor. You got me...

What I said about Griffin, I stand by 100%. If Griffin would have shown he could last in the NFL? I would be his biggest fan. He hasn't shown me that. I just want the team to win. I don't care if Scooby-Doo is the quarterback. Can he play in the NFL and succeed? Fine by me. Griffin isn't that guy.