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Red_One43 wrote:This is what trade rumors can do to a players concentration

—Chris ey caught a pass, took a few steps, and got the ball stripped away. That’s two fumbles in two days for him.

For whatever the reason, that doesn't look good for ey.

I wouldn't say so. It isn't like he has had fumble issues in the past. He has put the ball on the ground 11 years in his eight years, but only lost 4 fumbles. That is pretty incredible considering how hard he fights for yards.

That is one helluva stat... So long as his knee legs etc are working up to par the other football stuff will fall into place imo

Someone posted yesterday that ey got stripped twice but no one should read into that.

If a lesser player like Byrd or Quinn get stripped, then they have a problem b/c they're trying to make the roster.

No way we cut ey. Just doesn't make sense as a football team unless his knees are SHOT.

frankcal20 wrote:Someone posted yesterday that ey got stripped twice but no one should read into that.

If a lesser player like Byrd or Quinn get stripped, then they have a problem b/c they're trying to make the roster.

No way we cut ey. Just doesn't make sense as a football team unless his knees are SHOT.

I agree that no way ey gets cut, but do they ask him to take a pay cut?

Healthwise, ey looking good!

John Keim‏@john_keim

Shanahan on cooley: I don't see any signs of the hamstring, the groin, the knee. #redskins

Positves on ey are starting to roll out.

TE Chris ey on a running play sealed LOLB Rob Jackson out to the right. He blocked Jackson with his right shoulder and sealed the running lane inside.. Little things like that are the marks of a veteran. Coaches continue to say he looks like the old Chris. He has to hold up physically through the preseason games, though. If he does that, then there are good reasons to be optimistic about his season.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-81/

8/2

Grant Paulsen‏@granthpaulsen

Chris ey just had a phenomenal diving catch, fully extended with Keenan Robinson draped on him. #Redskins

My dawg!

Red_One43 wrote:8/2

Grant Paulsen‏@granthpaulsen

Chris ey just had a phenomenal diving catch, fully extended with Keenan Robinson draped on him. #Redskins

Gonna play a llittle Devil's Advocate here. Keep in mind I love ey and want him to have a great year.

Catches like this can be a sign of a guy who can't separate any more. See Desmond Howard. He made all these great catches in college with guys draped on him. Turns out it was because he couldn't separate. Great return guy though.

I'm hoping this was just simply a great catch. I hear he's looking healthy.

DarthMonk

DarthMonk wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:8/2

Grant Paulsen‏@granthpaulsen

Chris ey just had a phenomenal diving catch, fully extended with Keenan Robinson draped on him. #Redskins

Gonna play a llittle Devil's Advocate here. Keep in mind I love ey and want him to have a great year.

Catches like this can be a sign of a guy who can't separate any more. See Desmond Howard. He made all these great catches in college with guys draped on him. Turns out it was because he couldn't separate. Great return guy though.

I'm hoping this was just simply a great catch. I hear he's looking healthy.

DarthMonk

A few of the beat writers have commented that ey is looking slower this year. You might have a point here especially keeping in mind that he is working with mostly with the second team.

TE Chris ey lined up at fullback during one play on which the Redskins practiced third-and-1 situations. ey took the handoff and got a first down. We saw that last year in the Monday night game against Dallas, too.

ey’s versatility as a fullback is a significant asset in his push to make the team. If the Redskins keep one fullback, Darrel Young, ey could be the backup, just as Mike Sellers was last year. It gives ey an edge over all the other tight ends.

This is why I think we keep 4 TEs. ey is kind of in the role of Sellers for last year - the versatile guy. Don't know if he can keep his salary in this role.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-83/

Red_One43 wrote:

TE Chris ey lined up at fullback during one play on which the Redskins practiced third-and-1 situations. ey took the handoff and got a first down. We saw that last year in the Monday night game against Dallas, too.

ey’s versatility as a fullback is a significant asset in his push to make the team. If the Redskins keep one fullback, Darrel Young, ey could be the backup, just as Mike Sellers was last year. It gives ey an edge over all the other tight ends.

This is why I think we keep 4 TEs. ey is kind of in the role of Sellers for last year - the versatile guy. Don't know if he can keep his salary in this role.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-83/

^This is easy to forget.

I'm sure Gibbs drafted CC as a classic H-back. It's also a way to run a 3 or 4-TE set that actually has 4 or 3 pretty fast pass catchers that would have to be defended by a base defense.

DarthMonk

It's important for folks who worry about going into the season with only 1 FB... ey is a pretty darned good backup...

4 te? I see Morris making the team over Logan Paulson..

Red_One43 wrote:

TE Chris ey lined up at fullback during one play on which the Redskins practiced third-and-1 situations. ey took the handoff and got a first down. We saw that last year in the Monday night game against Dallas, too.

ey’s versatility as a fullback is a significant asset in his push to make the team. If the Redskins keep one fullback, Darrel Young, ey could be the backup, just as Mike Sellers was last year. It gives ey an edge over all the other tight ends.

This is why I think we keep 4 TEs. ey is kind of in the role of Sellers for last year - the versatile guy. Don't know if he can keep his salary in this role.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-83/

Sellers was never a 60-70 catch guy, but Chris will be (AT WORST) a 60 catch guy if he plays all 16 games. He will have more catches than Paulsen, Paul, Armstrang, Banks, Austiin, and Robinson combined.

There is no eveidence that he will be anything other than a 60-80 catch guy. Everyone is ASSuming that he will have a significantly reduced role... he won't! He will prove, like he always has, that he is better than Davis and all but a few TEs in the NFL.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:

TE Chris ey lined up at fullback during one play on which the Redskins practiced third-and-1 situations. ey took the handoff and got a first down. We saw that last year in the Monday night game against Dallas, too.

ey’s versatility as a fullback is a significant asset in his push to make the team. If the Redskins keep one fullback, Darrel Young, ey could be the backup, just as Mike Sellers was last year. It gives ey an edge over all the other tight ends.

This is why I think we keep 4 TEs. ey is kind of in the role of Sellers for last year - the versatile guy. Don't know if he can keep his salary in this role.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-83/

Sellers was never a 60-70 catch guy, but Chris will be (AT WORST) a 60 catch guy if he plays all 16 games. He will have more catches than Paulsen, Paul, Armstrang, Banks, Austiin, and Robinson combined.

There is no eveidence that he will be anything other than a 60-80 catch guy. Everyone is ASSuming that he will have a significantly reduced role... he won't! He will prove, like he always has, that he is better than Davis and all but a few TEs in the NFL.

Get serious...

skinsfan#33 wrote: Sellers was never a 60-70 catch guy, but Chris will be (AT WORST) a 60 catch guy if he plays all 16 games. He will have more catches than Paulsen, Paul, Armstrong, Banks, Austiin, and Robinson combined.

There is no evidence that he will be anything other than a 60-80 catch guy. Everyone is ASSuming that he will have a significantly reduced role... he won't! He will prove, like he always has, that he is better than Davis and all but a few TEs in the NFL.

are you serious ... or a close relative

I'm a ey fan and I hope that he's able to show that he can still help the offense

AND

that he'll take less money

but ...

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:

TE Chris ey lined up at fullback during one play on which the Redskins practiced third-and-1 situations. ey took the handoff and got a first down. We saw that last year in the Monday night game against Dallas, too.

ey’s versatility as a fullback is a significant asset in his push to make the team. If the Redskins keep one fullback, Darrel Young, ey could be the backup, just as Mike Sellers was last year. It gives ey an edge over all the other tight ends.

This is why I think we keep 4 TEs. ey is kind of in the role of Sellers for last year - the versatile guy. Don't know if he can keep his salary in this role.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... report-83/

Sellers was never a 60-70 catch guy, but Chris will be (AT WORST) a 60 catch guy if he plays all 16 games. He will have more catches than Paulsen, Paul, Armstrang, Banks, Austiin, and Robinson combined.

There is no eveidence that he will be anything other than a 60-80 catch guy. Everyone is ASSuming that he will have a significantly reduced role... he won't! He will prove, like he always has, that he is better than Davis and all but a few TEs in the NFL.

No Evidence?
Allow me to introduce Exhibits::

1. Fred Davis
2. Pierre Garcon
3. Santana Moss
4. Leonard Hankerson
5. Niles Paul
6. Josh Morgan

Now, I am not saying that all of these guys will catch more footballs than ey. I am saying that there are no where near enough footballs to go around for ey to get 60 balls.

Exhibit 7: This isn't Gronk and Hernanez! Even with a healthy Davis and ey, the Skins have never successfully run the two TE set that everyone has talked about since they became teammates. The Two TE set will be Davis and Paul. That TE Tandem fits the Shanny O.

cowboykillerzRED wrote:4 te? I see Morris making the team over Logan Paulson..

To me, Morris has the ability to create the biggest surprise roster decision for Shanny.

I see ey as the back up fullback, but with a strong showing by Alfred Morris, is ey in trouble or Hightower, as a running back?

Paulsen? Most reports I read, saw Paulsen is the best blocking TE on the roster. I don't think that Paulsen is effected by Morris. Paulsen has yet to play fullback and Morris has yet to play TE.

IMO The only way Paulsen makes the team is if ey doesn't. If ey doesn't make the team I don't see Morris not making it. With Hightower still limited I see him missing out regardless of ey, Paulsen or Morris

Dorson Boyce may play a roll in the FB mix but I doubt it.

Red_One43 wrote:I am saying that there are no where near enough footballs to go around for ey to get 60 balls.

That's absurd. There's easily enough for ey to get 60 with the WRs getting theirs. The only player who might limit ey's catches is Fred Davis. IF ey can't get in the game, he can't catch the ball.

I wouldn't be shocked to see ey with more receptions than Davis.

However, Davis will have more yards, YAC and possibly TD's. But don't count out ey in the redzone, a big body that can shield the ball is a great thing.

Deadskins wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:I am saying that there are no where near enough footballs to go around for ey to get 60 balls.

That's absurd. There's easily enough for ey to get 60 with the WRs getting theirs. The only player who might limit ey's catches is Fred Davis. IF ey can't get in the game, he can't catch the ball.

Oh, don't forget the backs getting theirs. Helu had, if not 50 catches, close to it.

So tell me how easily it is for a second string TE who is reportedly slower this year is going to get his 60.

Footballs to receivers, TEs, backs - Garcon? Davis? Moss? Morgan? Hank? How many footballs for the rest of them?

How may times to you think RGIII is going to crank it up next year?
Will Shanny finally emphasize the run which is his MO?
How effective will the offense control the ball? Are we with the Patriots in offensive plays/

Why did Shanny emphasize getting receiver in FA?
Why did Shanny switch Paul to TE?
Shanny is gearing up for Shanny ball this year.

Now, add all those balls up and the emphasis on the offense this year and tell how a second string TE/FB is going to get 60 catches.
Tel your rationale.

Here's the stats for the Redskins for the last two season to see how the has been distributed the last couple of years.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/wsh/year/2010
http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/nam ... n-redskins

Red_One43 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:I am saying that there are no where near enough footballs to go around for ey to get 60 balls.

That's absurd. There's easily enough for ey to get 60 with the WRs getting theirs. The only player who might limit ey's catches is Fred Davis. IF ey can't get in the game, he can't catch the ball.

Oh, don't forget the backs getting theirs. Helu had, if not 50 catches, close to it.

So tell me how easily it is for a second string TE who is reportedly slower this year is going to get his 60.

Footballs to receivers, TEs, backs - Garcon? Davis? Moss? Morgan? Hank? How many footballs for the rest of them?

How may times to you think RGIII is going to crank it up next year?
Will Shanny finally emphasize the run which is his MO?
How effective will the offense control the ball? Are we with the Patriots in offensive plays/

Why did Shanny emphasize getting receiver in FA?
Why did Shanny switch Paul to TE?
Shanny is gearing up for Shanny ball this year.

Now, add all those balls up and the emphasis on the offense this year and tell how a second string TE/FB is going to get 60 catches.
Tel your rationale.

Here's the stats for the Redskins for the last two season to see how the has been distributed the last couple of years.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/wsh/year/2010
http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/nam ... n-redskins

Don't forget ey also lines up as a fullback, and like I said, it really depends on Fred Davis more than the WRs as to how many touches ey gets. That and how many two TE sets we run.

I thought it was reported he looks faster this year than the last couple due to his loss of weight and conditioning.