Countertrey wrote:Commissioner's office has already stated that they have cleared the Redskins.
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AS I understand it, the Commissioner's office also stated that they will reopen the case involving any team if new "information" surfaces.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2017810710.html"While some players who played for Williams elsewhere said he oversaw bounty systems there, too, the league said its didn't find evidence that "programs at other clubs involved targeting opposing players or rewarding players for injuring an opponent." But Goodell could reopen the case if new information emerges."
so, your first pitch back at me was a softball and I put it back from where it came from. I gotta warn ya, Moderator, if you're gonna throw meatball responses at me like that first one, they're gonna get hit hard.
and, as I also noted, any effort to punish the team for actions taken by an individual, without authorization by management, will, almost certainly, provoke an already agrieved Snyder to take the league to court...
i've got an extremely cogent response to that: so what.
I think it's time you all look outside the team for once. Stop looking at everything as us versus them. And we'll start at square one. You obviously are not understanding the seriousness of the issues.
Let me remind you that the NFL has been under attack for two years now regarding the health of its former and current players. I remember watching Roger Goodell testifying during a suposition just last summer. The safety of the game is sport's #1 issue right now. Every play is being inspected for illegal hits. A senator from Illinois has just launched his own investigation into the matter. do u have any idea where that could lead? I can tell you this, it put guys like Roger Clemens in front of the Supreme Court. There is a marketing war going on right now involving the players, owners, commissioner, lawyers, fans, and everyone in between and that war is about one thing: the safety of its players. Gregg Williams couldnt have come at a worse time for the Saints. 5 years ago this wouldnt be quite as bad as it is now.
This is the NFL's *WAR* right now. The story that came out today involving Williams when he was in Washington was the worst I had heard to date. In fact, to me, its beyond football. Its downright CRIMINAL.
Where else can you get away with laying 15 grand on a table in front of a bunch of 240 lb crazy people and tell them the guy who knocks this person out gets the money?
So I think the NFL *HAS* to start with an investigation. In light of the league's perception problem, I dont even think they can get away with NOT investigating this story (as they said they would if new information became available) and Williams' whole tenure with the Redskins.
What they find now that there are two witnesses (former players) where there was none a few weeks ago will determine if they do anything to washington or individuals within that they can tie blame to. i dont know that they can find that though, so you guys reading this can all put your guns down.
they didnt have anything on the saints, at first What they had was leaked stories ( a rat, as Warren Sapp said) That "rat" led to the investigation which then led to the publishing of a 50,000 page summary of wrong doings. And the investigation didnt take long.
So, with this story today, you got step one again. A "rat" or two, in DC have come forward (Sapp's description, not mine). And now, step two ought to commence with a full D.C. investigation and only then will you know where it leads to.
Yes, there are precious few redskins remaining from williams' time in DC. But be that as it may, do you think *I* know what that means in terms of punishment if they found agregious sins in DC? No! The NFL again is fighting their own reputation war right now and anything is possible. Right now, the nfl be trippin! And their punishment to New Orleans isnt JUST about sending a message to that one football team. It was also to send a message to Congress, to the President, and to the world that watches the National Football League.
Is it impossible to think Dan Snyder knew about bounties? Dude...cmon...dont even give me this holier than thou garbage that everyone is a "Saint" (solid pun, right there) in burgandy and gold. You dont know what you dont know. And either do I. You would never convince me that Sean Payton had knowledge of illegal bounties happening on his football team a month ago. Not until, step one, a story broke, and step two, an investigation followed.
Today was step one in Washington.
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