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TeeterSalad wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3760058



All the speculation can end for now...

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:Now let's put in another way. If the Redskin offense averaged 25 points (like NYG, NO, Ari, Philly, GB. NYJ, SD, ATL. Tenn) we'd be UNDEFEATED right now at 13-0.

Thank you, someone freaking understands!!!! Go back to 2004, 2005 and 2007... If we had an offense that could score a respectable amount of points we'd be winning the division and championships!

We don't need a steel curtain, we need 2 more TD's a game!

RayNAustin wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:Now let's put in another way. If the Redskin offense averaged 25 points (like NYG, NO, Ari, Philly, GB. NYJ, SD, ATL. Tenn) we'd be UNDEFEATED right now at 13-0.

Thank you, someone freaking understands!!!! Go back to 2004, 2005 and 2007... If we had an offense that could score a respectable amount of points we'd be winning the division and championships!

We don't need a steel curtain, we need 2 more TD's a game!

You're welcome, and thank you for convincing me that EVERYONE hasn't lost their ability to think.

But we don't even need two more TD's. really. 1 more would be enough, and a few less 3 and outs would help an already outstanding defense perform bettre in the 4th Q

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:Now let's put in another way. If the Redskin offense averaged 25 points (like NYG, NO, Ari, Philly, GB. NYJ, SD, ATL. Tenn) we'd be UNDEFEATED right now at 13-0.

Thank you, someone freaking understands!!!! Go back to 2004, 2005 and 2007... If we had an offense that could score a respectable amount of points we'd be winning the division and championships!

We don't need a steel curtain, we need 2 more TD's a game!

Portis, Zorn Say All Is 'Cool'

Jason La Canfora reports:

Saying that he is "cool with everything," Clinton Portis met with the media this afternoon and added that what was said in a meeting with Coach Jim Zorn is "between me and Coach Zorn."

Asked if he and critical comments he made Tuesday about Zorn were a distraction, he said, "A distraction to what? We've lost four of five games."

Zorn, who said he is "absolutely" cool with everything today, said that Portis was confused about "where he stood." With the emotion stripped away, Zorn said the real issue is "just come in and talk." Zorn said he feels that if players are not proactive and don't come to coaches, sometimes the situation "is hard to read."

He added that Portis does not need to operate this way publicly, though he knows Portis has done so in the past. "That's what losing does," Zorn said. "Everybody gets upset."

Portis said that if Zorn had reached out to him Monday "then I wouldn't be up here talking to you all."

Zorn said that, in his mind, "I shouldn't have to seek that out." He added that he felt Portis had some legitimate concerns and "confusion" but believes the issues have been resolved.

Portis said that he said what he felt at the moment - "at that time I had some stuff built up" - and Zorn was not surprised by the outburst. "He's done this before, right?" Zorn said.

Portis clarified that he does not want to leave the Redskins. "I'm not going to severe ties," Portis said. "I love Mr. [Daniel] Snyder and Mr. Snyder loves me." Portis said that Snyder has always made him feel wanted through his words and actions. Snyder and executive vice-president of football operations Vinny Cerrato declined a request for a comment.

When asked about being worried about his job security, Zorn replied, "Uh, no" and added that he is trying to build a long-term foundation here.

Zorn said he spoke briefly with Snyder about the incident Tuesday night, that he lost no sleep over it and that he wasn't worried about losing his team. Zorn said Snyder "acted very medium" about the dust-up and said, "This is Clinton."

Posted at 3:40 PM ET, 12/10/2008
Zorn: 'We're All in It Together'

More highlights from Jim Zorn's post-practice press conference:

Asked if he regretted anything that might have set Clinton Portis off, Zorn said no, adding that he hopes he has not implied that he is above the team or not accountable for problems.

"We're all in it together," Zorn said. "We all have accountability and responsibility ... I'm trying to be transparent."

Zorn said he read a transcript of the Portis radio interview and thought it was "interesting." "I was just glad that he thought I was a genius," Zorn joked.

He was asked again about job security, and about some veiled reports about him being in trouble.

"I don't even know all that stuff is out there," Zorn said, adding, "it won't be up to me," and saying he wants to "better" all expectations of what he can accomplish here. He was also asked about players losing belief in his scheme and play calling.

"I don't fear that," Zorn said. "I think it can creep in, but I don't fear it ... In a time of crisis your belief system gets challenged."

Clinton Portis was happy, upbeat, and cracking jokes for the whole five minutes he addressed the media today, and Jim Zorn later said he thought Portis had acted medium throughout the whole ordeal. Portis, meantime, said "I'm not the voice of reason," which was probably the highlight. Either that, or when he offered to buy the first round for the media contingent.

I also asked Zorn whether he heard the entire Portis interview. "Oh, I got the transcript," he said. "Oh yeah. [PR man Zack Bolno] brought the transcript in. It was interesting. I was just glad he thought I was a genius."

While Zorn was passionate and philosophical and serious in his lengthy remarks, Portis mostly just made jokes. He seemed as cheerful as he's been in weeks. Some highlights.

On whether he caused a distraction: "Uh, a distraction from what? We've done lost four out of our last five games, so if it's a distraction, what else can we do? We can't do nothing but win, now."

On what he was hoping to accomplish: "I wasn't hoping to accomplish nothing. It was something on my chest that I needed to get off, and I did. So now that was yesterday, today I'm at work, we're getting ready to play the Cincinnati Bengals."

On whether other players agree with him: "I can't speak for other guys. I know how I felt, I spoke on how I was feeling. I didn't speak for nobody else, I'm not the voice of the team, I'm not the voice of reason. I spoke for myself."

On whether he wished they had just talked face-to-face on Monday: "Yeah, then I wouldn't be up here answering this to y'all. But at the same time, he said what he had to say and I understand his point, and where he was coming from. And I tried to get him to understand. I've been calling him a genius all year. You know, all of the sudden it make headlines, 'Our Coach a Genius.' I've been told y'all he's smart."

On his talk of severing ties: "We're not gonna sever ties. You know, I'm a Washington Redskin. You know, I love Mr. Snyder, Mr. Snyder love me, that's my man. You know, he kept me around, him and Vinny. Coach got an appreciation from me. I think yesterday it was just aggravation, losing four games, everybody want to win. You know, we both got egos, so I should have said it to him....Understand, I'm a Washington Redskin. Before this turns into a whole 'nother 'Clinton Portis Want Out of Washington,' I love [the] Washington, D.C. area. I love this DMV or whatever you want to call it. Me and Obama got big plans for the next four years, so I'll be here."

On his mouth: "I just speak my mind, bro. And everybody around here, don't make it like it's a big thing. I'm gonna speak my mind, so it's gonna cause trouble every now and then."

On what his teammates have said to him: "A lot of them think I'm crazy. Nothing really. A lot of guys laughed about the situation and were like, 'Boy, you're crazy.' That's it."

On whether he feels less stressed today: "Any time you get something off your chest that you need to get off your chest, any man right here can vouch, when you get it off your chest, you feel less stressed. I feel less stressed, I feel good, I'm smiling. Hey. Beers on me, if y'all feel like it."

"We're all in it together," Zorn said.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:You go look at the scores. There were more than 30 games were the losing team scored less than 10. So 10 would have won that game.

How many scored 10 points or less and lost?

DEHog wrote:

"We're all in it together," Zorn said.

Somebody has been talking to Joe