New Coach by tonight possibly...and new staff

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:59 pm

SkinsFreak wrote:Snyder has a big test in front of him and the majority of us know the proper, wise, rational and most logical course of action. I will reiterate my opinion that I firmly believe GW deserves this opportunity and that is the only outcome to stabilize what Gibbs has accomplished and is the best route for moving forward. If Snyder does in fact muck this up, I will be the first to jump on the "Snyder's an idiot" bandwagon and will admit some of you were right all along, that Danny didn't learn a damn thing. But before doing so, I will, at the very least, wait for the final decision. I put the horse in front of the carriage, not behind it.

I may be very close to eating my own words. Some of you may have been right about Snyder, he's an idiot.

:cry:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:23 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:

(Lua got thrown on the IR witch saved him from being cut.)

Same goes for Mike Richardson. In no way is that surprising though. It's going to be pretty hard for any rookie to make the roster of arguably the best team in NFL history.

say what! I know its Friday but this is just not acceptable ROTFALMAO

did you watch any NFL games in the 70s through 90s?

This Patriots team is a good team but "arguably the best team in NFL history" ROTFALMAO

You have just qualified yourself better than any of us can :lol:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:27 pm

BTW CanesSkins - why do you keep taking a new Redskins Head Coach thread off on building a franchise through the free agent vrs draft tangent?

jazzskins · Post by **jazzskins** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:34 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:

(Lua got thrown on the IR witch saved him from being cut.)

Same goes for Mike Richardson. In no way is that surprising though. It's going to be pretty hard for any rookie to make the roster of arguably the best team in NFL history.

say what! I know its Friday but this is just not acceptable did you watch any NFL games in the 70s through 90s?

This Patriots team is a good team but "arguably the best team in NFL history" You have just qualified yourself better than any of us can

Despite being horribly off-topic, I can't help but ask what you are tryiung to say. Are you saying that the Pat's are not deserving of consideration as one of the greatest teams of all time?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:09 am

The 2007 Patriots are one of the greatest teams in NFL history.

The 2007 Patriots would not be able to beat a lot of the past great teams - the game was different and they just are a great team in today's NFL. No comparison really.

jazzskins · Post by **jazzskins** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:33 am

SkinsJock wrote:The 2007 Patriots are one of the greatest teams in NFL history.

The 2007 Patriots would not be able to beat a lot of the past great teams - the game was different and they just are a great team in today's NFL. No comparison really.

Thats very easy to say, and absolutely impossible to prove. If the Patriots win the superbowl they will be the greatest team in the history on the NFL....period.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:01 am

Historically, the 2007 Patriots will rate as one of the greatest teams in NFL history

in my opinion they would not have beaten most decent teams from the 70s through the 90s because those teams were just better teams and the rules were not as favorable to the offense as they are now.

The fact that this Patriots team won all their games puts them in the history books but nobody that watched football from the 70s on would give this team much of a chance against those teams - no team of today would have a perfect record because no team of today would last a season playing against those defenses.

back on topic though - the bozos look like they are going to milk this coach search for all they can - the result, I predict will have us wondering why it took so long - with these 2 back in charge, we are in for an interesting ride :shock:

spenser · Post by **spenser** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:18 pm

SkinsJock wrote:Historically, the 2007 Patriots will rate as one of the greatest teams in NFL history

in my opinion they would not have beaten most decent teams from the 70s through the 90s because those teams were just better teams and the rules were not as favorable to the offense as they are now.

The fact that this Patriots team won all their games puts them in the history books but nobody that watched football from the 70s on would give this team much of a chance against those teams - no team of today would have a perfect record because no team of today would last a season playing against those defenses.

back on topic though - the bozos look like they are going to milk this coach search for all they can - the result, I predict will have us wondering why it took so long - with these 2 back in charge, we are in for an interesting ride

Dude, you are usually so sensible, but man are you off on this. WHEN, not IF, but WHEN the patriots win the superbowl this sunday, they will rightfully so go down as the greatest team in the history of organized football. I understand your argument that the game is tailored for offensive production, but why then did none of the steelers teams go undefeated? The fact is that no other team in a near centuary has won 19 straight games culmanating in a championship. As such they should be considered the greatest. Obviously there is no way to prove they would win out, or lose to those teams. you say the defense was better, I say the competition is closer and better now with all the "parody". But the bottom line is that there is no way to Prove one way or the other, and as such, the record itself becomes the defining statistic to them being the best ever. Which totally sucks becuase i hate bellicheat, but i am a realist.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:31 pm

I agree to disagree - i still think that it is because of the parity (altho - I like the parody of it too :lol:

) that the teams would not be competitive - no question about the historical significance at all - a truly great accomplishment.

I am looking forward to the game and the patriots should torch the giants - I cannot lose - it will be great to see the pats kill the giants AND IF the giants get incredibly lucky and knock these guys off this weekend, that would be great too - mainly because the giants are still not going to be competitive next year with this coach and this QB :lol:

back to the coaching carousel - when this thing first started I was convinced that Snyder was going to follow Gibbs and just name Williams - now look at where we are and like someone earlier said "we will not get a new coach until February :shock:

" how bout that? :lol:

spenser · Post by **spenser** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:15 pm

I think the only Parody here is my attempt at spelling and grammer. lol. Its cool we all have our opinions, but i totally agree that whoever wins will be ok with me. Giants lose, and we can laugh that another nfc east team couldnt win the big one (im talking to you eagle fans) and their team will likley be dismantled and picked apart for coaches and players. If the pat's lose then i can revel in the fact that i hate bill belicheat and am happy that they wont go down as the greatest team ever. Also... if they lose, that would certainly lend creedance to your opinion of them not being the best ever!

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:06 pm

I'd have to agree wit Spense... I think they will be the greatest dynasty in football if/when/whatever they pull off this 4th SB victory. Add that to the amount of records broken, the salary cap stuff, and the most important thing; free agency. Yes those old teams played more of a tough game since nowadays injuries slowed the game a bit, but the old teams kept their main core team together for many years unlike now where guys might be here today, ghost tomorrow.

As for the topic.. if they say its Fossel.. oh man, I'm gonna be crushed and the only way to make me feel better is to win the SB in '09. Seriously. ;furious;

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:41 pm

Count me in on the side for the pats already being considered one of the best teams in history - I really have to say that this team has already achieved amazing success.

I am also NOT a fossil fan :wink:

jazzskins · Post by **jazzskins** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:12 am

SkinsJock wrote:in my opinion they would not have beaten most decent teams from the 70s through the 90s because those teams were just better teams and the rules were not as favorable to the offense as they are now.

Sorry, I just can't leave this one alone. Your theory has that warm and fuzzy fondness for the past legends thing going for it. But, the reality is that the players on those teams in the 70's weren't as big, weren't as fast, and weren't training all year long like the players do today. They didn't have the equipment, technology, or health standards that we have today. The schemes weren't as complex and the players weren't required to have the kind of football knowledge that they need to have today. You can lament the rule changes all you want and say that the Patriots wouldn't have scored as many points against those teams, but if Richard Seymour was allowed to do the Deacon Jones head slap he might actually decapitate someone.

I just don't buy it. I appreciate the fondness for the past, but 30+ years later and alot of those guys would be role players today. The "Glory of the Gridiron," NFL films have done a number on your psyche, but the reality is that those guys were great....for thier time. Today they would be average.

Of course, its not like it matters. We can't test our theories anyway.