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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:56 pm
by Countertrey
Ouch! :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:00 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Countertrey wrote:Ouch! :lol:
:D
But back to the topic - is that really the record of an up and coming coaching legend?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:17 pm
by SKINFAN
Hmn, not really, but it sounds good for a defensive coordinator....

The more things are panning out the more worried I am that GW is gone....

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:19 pm
by UK Skins Fan
SKINFAN wrote:Hmn, not really, but it sounds good for a defensive coordinator....
Come on now - it's not even that good. 4 out of 5 years, his defences (or is that defenses?!) have been in the bottom half of the league. I don't think I'd let the guy coordinate my sock drawer, let alone the Redskins defence.

Let's get this over and done with, and give Williams the job ASAP.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:38 pm
by SKINFAN
UK Skins Fan wrote:
SKINFAN wrote:Hmn, not really, but it sounds good for a defensive coordinator....
Come on now - it's not even that good. 4 out of 5 years, his defences (or is that defenses?!) have been in the bottom half of the league. I don't think I'd let the guy coordinate my sock drawer, let alone the Redskins defence.

Let's get this over and done with, and give Williams the job ASAP.


LMAO sock drawer :D


I think, HOPE, that when williams gets the throne, Schwartz will take on as def coordinator, he baby sits the animals in practice, while he looks pretty on the sidelines during games while GW calls the defensive plays. Ala Gibbs-Saunders...

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:52 pm
by Countertrey
My major concern is that he doesn't seem to be a very large Schwartz. It's of critical importance that our HC have a larger Schwartz than any other NFC East HC... it would be great if his Schwartz was huge, in fact. When it comes to Scwartz's size matters. I want Williams to have a large Schwartz. :wink:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:54 pm
by Irn-Bru
. . .now I'm wondering what CT's interview process might be like. Probably simple, yet. . .

*shudder*

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:55 pm
by CanesSkins26
In five years as Titans defensive coordinator, Schwartz's defences have been ranked 19th, 25th, 27th, 32nd, and then 5th in the NFL?! This hardly seems like the CV of a defensive genius, does it? He doesn't come close to Williams' record.


The defensive rankings don't really tell the whole story though. The Titans' defense was absolutely gutted a few years ago because of major salary cap problems. We all saw what happened with our defense last season when the talent wasn't quite there.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:55 pm
by Countertrey
Irn-Bru wrote:. . .now I'm wondering what CT's interview process might be like. Probably simple, yet. . .

*shudder*


Sorry... it's from a youth spent wading in the waters off Fletchers Boathouse...

It's ok, though... I'm a professional!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:06 pm
by tribeofjudah
He can buy a large Schwartz......

the little blue pill.........

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:07 pm
by SKINFAN
Countertrey wrote:My major concern is that he doesn't seem to be a very large Schwartz. It's of critical importance that our HC have a larger Schwartz than any other NFC East HC... it would be great if his Schwartz was huge, in fact. When it comes to Scwartz's size matters. I want Williams to have a large Schwartz. :wink:


What the Schwartz are we talking about again? :(



ANyone know what names are on that list?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:09 pm
by CanesSkins26
gamecocks21 wrote:Clinton Portis just said on ESPN First Take that he and everyone else in the locker room are hoping that it's Gregg Williams. He also said that the new coach is gonna come in and work with what we got, and he followed that up by saying we don't need major change, and that Gregg Williams has the respect of everyone, including players and the organization. He went on to say that it's on the organization to go out and bring in whoever they want, and the coach that comes in allows an opportunity to go out and play. Clinton said they have something good going on, they can build off their season, and he doesn't think they need a lot of change.


The players should not have much, if any, say in who the next head coach is going to be. With NFL careers being short and with high player turnover, many of the players on the roster will be gone in a few seasons. A perfect example is Phillip Daniels. He has been talking about how he wants GW as the next head coach but he is probably going to be cut before next season anyway. The players also have their own motives for wanting an in-house guy to get the job (job security being the major motivation). The goal is to try to hire a coach that is going to be here for the next 10 seasons, not just the next 2 or 3 years. So while you can't totally ignore the sentiment of the players, it should only be a very small factor when deciding on the next head coach. So if GW is the best candidate in the minds of Snyder and Vinny because of what he can bring to the job, he should definitely be the next HC. But in no way should he get the job because of what the players want.

A good example of this (even though it's college) is what happened at Miami after Butch Davis left for the NFL. The players (Portis being one of them) all lobbied for Larry Coker to get the HC job. Even though there were better candidates out there he got the job, largely because of what the players wanted. In the short term it worked out, and Miami won the 2001 NC with arguably the most talented team in college history. Coker basically kept everything the same from Butch's tenure and it worked for him in 2001 and 2002. However, once the players from those teams were gone and he had to recruit on his own and coach a team that didn't have a depth chart of Portis, McGahee, and Gore at running back, Coker absolutely tanked and set the Miami program years. So you have to be careful what you ask for when listening to the what players want.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:27 pm
by Deadskins
Countertrey wrote:My major concern is that he doesn't seem to be a very large Schwartz. It's of critical importance that our HC have a larger Schwartz than any other NFC East HC... it would be great if his Schwartz was huge, in fact. When it comes to Scwartz's size matters. I want Williams to have a large Schwartz. :wink:

May the Schwartz be with you.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:11 pm
by SkinsFreak
JSPB22 wrote:May the Schwartz be with you.


ROTFALMAO Beat me to it! ROTFALMAO

Down with Dark Helmet!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:03 pm
by SkinsJock
When posters refer to players feelings about things I think they are just offering a supporting point of view - everyone that knows anything about the Washington Redskins knows who makes the decisions and thinks they know who influences those decisions - nobody with any sense thinks that any decisions are influenced at all by the players :lol:

this is a process - it will take time and then we can worry about the next potential catastrophe - who will be on the team and who will the assistant coaches be - who is available and ........... we love the off season - unfortunately ours has seemed to start a little earlier - we need to get back to the Divisional Round and then we will be back to the Super Bowl :lol:






By the way Trevor - over here we call it a sox drawer not sock drawer - not to be confused with ...... never mind :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:17 pm
by skinsfan#33
tribeofjudah wrote:He can buy a large Schwartz......

the little blue pill.........


Use the Schawrtz, Luke!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:19 pm
by CanesSkins26
Schwartz in a box?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:33 pm
by CanesSkins26


Redskins To Interview Second Coaching Candidate



POSTED: 2:04 pm EST January 11, 2008
UPDATED: 2:44 pm EST January 11, 2008



WASHINGTON -- The Washington Redskins were expected Friday to interview a second candidate for the vacant head coaching job.

The candidate is said to be an assistant from another team.

The interviews are being conducted by team owner Dan Snyder and vice president for football operations Vinny Cerrato.

Although former coach Joe Gibbs will remain an adviser to Snyder, he is not meeting with the candidates.

Tennessee Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz became the first person to interview for the coaching vacancy Thursday.


http://www.nbc4.com/sports/15030573/detail.html?dl=mainclick

I'm guessing this has to be Russ Grimm. JLC and the other reports on Washington Post Live were saying that they think it's Grimm.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:34 pm
by CanesSkins26
GRIMM VISITS WITH 'SKINS?

There's talk on the league grapevine that Cardinals offensive line coach Russ Grimm interviewed on Friday for the vacant head-coaching job with the Redskins.

It's only a rumor at this point -- not fact.

If it's a fact, it makes sense, given that Grimm was one of the "Hogs." And given that Grimm nearly was named the Steelers' coach last year at this time. In fact, there have been reports that Grimm actually had the job before the Steelers did an about-face and gave it to Mike Tomlin.

It's amazing, frankly, that Grimm hasn't gotten any consideration for the other vacant gigs. How does a guy go from being a finalist to off of the map in only one year? It's further proof as to how the media drives the process by focusing on assistant coaches from teams that are doing "well." But even though the Cardinals didn't make the playoffs (again), they have improved, and Grimm should still be in the mix for jobs.


http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:56 pm
by jazzskins
CanesSkins26 wrote:Schwartz in a box?


One! Cut a hole in the box!

Two! Put your Schwartz in the box!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:19 pm
by SkinsFreak
skinsfan#33 wrote:
tribeofjudah wrote:He can buy a large Schwartz......

the little blue pill.........


Use the Schawrtz, Luke!


Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!

"I am Princess Vespa, daughter of Roland, king of the druids!"


Lone Star: "Oh, that's all we needed, a druish princess."


Sorry, what were we talking about? :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:20 pm
by CanesSkins26
Redskins, Schwartz could be a fit
Titans coordinator has in-depth interview with Snyder
Posted: Friday January 11, 2008 2:34PM; Updated: Friday January 11, 2008 2:43PM
You can hold off on the notion that Redskins assistant Gregg Williams is a slam dunk to replace the re-retired Joe Gibbs in Washington, in light of the news that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder started his coaching search Thursday by interviewing Tennessee defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz.

And this was no cursory three-hour, keep-your-name-on-file interview either. Snyder and Redskins vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato met for about nine hours with Schwartz at Sndyer's mansion overlooking the Potomac River.

Sources say Snyder came away very impressed with Schwartz's intelligence, coaching philosophy and communication skills. That Schwartz, 41, is close to Snyder in age (the owner is 42), and knows the D.C. market from having grown up in Baltimore and attended Georgetown further boosts his candidacy. That common ground lent itself to a long and surprisingly detailed and wide-ranging conversation that stretched from morning until early evening.

And there's another factor that could work in Schwartz's favor: He's suddenly in demand, at least in terms of head coaching interviews. Schwartz was scheduled to be in Atlanta on Friday to interview for the Falcons' coaching vacancy, and the Dolphins received permission to meet with him about their opening on Monday. Knowing he may have competition for Schwartz can't possibly do anything but deepen Snyder's interest in him, since Snyder seldom shies away from a bidding war.

Conventional wisdom was that Sndyer would follow his familiar pattern of seeking a head coaching candidate who has headline name potential -- see Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier and Gibbs -- but there are indications that he's unconcerned with such factors this time around. While it is believed that the Redskins have ex-Steelers head coach Bill Cowher on their radar screen, the NFL analyst for CBS has again put the word out that he intends to remain out of coaching in 2008.

Sndyer is said to be focused on how to seamlessly build on the success that the Redskins had this season, when they rallied to a 9-7 finish and made the NFC playoffs as a wild card entry. Interestingly, that desire seemed to strongly favor Williams, the team's assistant head coach-defense under Gibbs. Several Redskins players have come out strongly in favor of Williams being elevated to replace Gibbs, and his three years of head coaching experience in Buffalo (2001-03) was seen as another plus.

But in Schwartz the Redskins would be hiring someone who runs a very similar style of attacking and aggressive defense to the one Williams has installed in Washington. In part that's because Schwartz served two years as a defensive assistant under Williams in Tennessee (1999-2000), when Williams was the Titans' defensive coordinator.

The Titans were ranked fifth defensively this season, and Tennessee made the AFC playoffs for the first time since 2003. Schwartz' only previous head coaching interview took place in San Francisco in 2005, before the 49ers hired Mike Nolan.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/11/coaches/index.html

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:45 am
by SkinsJock
CanesSkins26 wrote:
Redskins, Schwartz could be a fit
Titans coordinator has in-depth interview with Snyder
Posted: Friday January 11, 2008 2:34PM; Updated: Friday January 11, 2008 2:43PM
You can hold off on the notion that Redskins assistant Gregg Williams is a slam dunk to replace the re-retired Joe Gibbs in Washington, in light of the news that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder started his coaching search Thursday by interviewing Tennessee defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz.

And this was no cursory three-hour, keep-your-name-on-file interview either. Snyder and Redskins vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato met for about nine hours with Schwartz at Sndyer's mansion overlooking the Potomac River.

Sources say Snyder came away very impressed with Schwartz's intelligence, coaching philosophy and communication skills. That Schwartz, 41, is close to Snyder in age (the owner is 42), and knows the D.C. market from having grown up in Baltimore and attended Georgetown further boosts his candidacy. That common ground lent itself to a long and surprisingly detailed and wide-ranging conversation that stretched from morning until early evening.

And there's another factor that could work in Schwartz's favor: He's suddenly in demand, at least in terms of head coaching interviews. Schwartz was scheduled to be in Atlanta on Friday to interview for the Falcons' coaching vacancy, and the Dolphins received permission to meet with him about their opening on Monday. Knowing he may have competition for Schwartz can't possibly do anything but deepen Snyder's interest in him, since Snyder seldom shies away from a bidding war.

Conventional wisdom was that Sndyer would follow his familiar pattern of seeking a head coaching candidate who has headline name potential -- see Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier and Gibbs -- but there are indications that he's unconcerned with such factors this time around. While it is believed that the Redskins have ex-Steelers head coach Bill Cowher on their radar screen, the NFL analyst for CBS has again put the word out that he intends to remain out of coaching in 2008.

Sndyer is said to be focused on how to seamlessly build on the success that the Redskins had this season, when they rallied to a 9-7 finish and made the NFC playoffs as a wild card entry. Interestingly, that desire seemed to strongly favor Williams, the team's assistant head coach-defense under Gibbs. Several Redskins players have come out strongly in favor of Williams being elevated to replace Gibbs, and his three years of head coaching experience in Buffalo (2001-03) was seen as another plus.

But in Schwartz the Redskins would be hiring someone who runs a very similar style of attacking and aggressive defense to the one Williams has installed in Washington. In part that's because Schwartz served two years as a defensive assistant under Williams in Tennessee (1999-2000), when Williams was the Titans' defensive coordinator.

The Titans were ranked fifth defensively this season, and Tennessee made the AFC playoffs for the first time since 2003. Schwartz' only previous head coaching interview took place in San Francisco in 2005, before the 49ers hired Mike Nolan.


[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/11/coaches/index.html[/url]


At first I thought this is a bit of a stretch and then I saw the source - this is a load of BS - this stupid bunch of guys are making most of this stuff up - I'll bet they probably met for a few hours and these guys added a few hours to make their stupid story seem to have some basis - really guys, can we try and stay with sources that probably know what they are doing - this site has no idea and we should never post links to that site - these guys are the worst.

why keep dredging up Snyder's actions from the past - we know what we have seen recently and that is who he is now - these guys are really out of touch with our team and have an agenda

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:40 am
by DEHog
why keep dredging up Snyder's actions from the past - we know what we have seen recently and that is who he is now - these guys are really out of touch with our team and have an agenda


Just out of curiosity what is it specifically that we’ve seen recently?? I keep seeing all this support for the “new” Snyder…but outside of hiring Gibbs and allowing him to be the face and voice of the organization what is it that you’ve seen??

I’m not saying it’s not true I just see no evidence. I’m just reserving my judgment until I see how he conducts business without Gibbs, so far….

He has not and doesn’t intend to hire a GM. When all things good point to GW as the next coach he’s looking elsewhere, which tells me he hasn’t learn patients from Gibbs like he said he had.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:56 pm
by John Manfreda
Hopefully Williams and Al Saunders is still the O-coordinator, that will be great because than Todd Collins will probably start because he is Al's guy.