New England = Overrated Offense, Redskins = Great Matchup

[Deadskins]

Everyone who thinks the Patriots cannot run the ball, just look at this.

Patriots: 32 Rushing Attempts per game. 4.2 yards per attempt, 934 yards, 133.4 yards rushing per game. Ranked 7th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Redskins: 32.2 Rushing Attempts per game. 3.6 yards per attempt, 688 yards, 114.7 yards rushing per game. Ranked 16th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Yes, the Patriots have a far better rushing attack than the Skins do and run the ball just as often as we do.

They have a top 10 rushing attack. They can run the ball. And they do.

We have played much better defenses than they have, and you obviously know about our O-line problems.

Uh oh, you said "we" and "our." Oh no.

Puh - leez.

BTW - WE can win and I hope WE do. I at least like OUR chances of covering.

DarthMonk

I like your chances of covering New England's wide receivers about as much as I like my chances of covering them. And I ran a 4.30 40 in high school. You can win if you place a bet. Other than that, you can watch along with the rest of us. Then you can take underserved credit if the Redskins win and equally undeserved blame if the Redskins lose.

How I love beating this horse.

He was talking about covering the spread, not the WRs.
And as part of the Redskins family, he has every right to say "we" and "our" when referring to the Skins. .

I like my chances of covering (with a blanket) in the winter.

The "Redskins Family"? There's a delusional concept. Either a person is an actual employee of the Washington Redskins or a person is not.

And how do you know Darth Monk is not? But if you have been living and dieing with this team for over 35 years, as I have, that makes you part of the Redskins family in my book.

[DarthMonk]

Here's some stats that should stir the pot a little.

That's good. Lets give them even more reason to blow us out.

I think we can reasonably conclude the New England Patriots do not visit these message boards.

We might even reasonably conclude they could care less what we think on these message boards.

We can also reasonably conclude that Brady knows which team it is that he has never beaten and that that might not be a good thing. Of course, maybe it'll make him press a little. Then again, maybe not.

DarthMonk

[DarthMonk]

Here's some stats that should stir the pot a little.

That's good. Lets give them even more reason to blow us out.

I think we can reasonably conclude the New England Patriots do not visit these message boards.

We might even reasonably conclude they could care less what we think on these message boards.

They could care less, but not much less.

I'm sure you meant they COULDN'T care less - not that I'm into grammar or anything - just a little bored right now.

DarthMonk

[GSPODS]

Everyone who thinks the Patriots cannot run the ball, just look at this.

Patriots: 32 Rushing Attempts per game. 4.2 yards per attempt, 934 yards, 133.4 yards rushing per game. Ranked 7th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Redskins: 32.2 Rushing Attempts per game. 3.6 yards per attempt, 688 yards, 114.7 yards rushing per game. Ranked 16th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Yes, the Patriots have a far better rushing attack than the Skins do and run the ball just as often as we do.

They have a top 10 rushing attack. They can run the ball. And they do.

We have played much better defenses than they have, and you obviously know about our O-line problems.

Uh oh, you said "we" and "our." Oh no.

Puh - leez.

BTW - WE can win and I hope WE do. I at least like OUR chances of covering.

DarthMonk

I like your chances of covering New England's wide receivers about as much as I like my chances of covering them. And I ran a 4.30 40 in high school. You can win if you place a bet. Other than that, you can watch along with the rest of us. Then you can take underserved credit if the Redskins win and equally undeserved blame if the Redskins lose.

How I love beating this horse.

He was talking about covering the spread, not the WRs.
And as part of the Redskins family, he has every right to say "we" and "our" when referring to the Skins. .

I like my chances of covering (with a blanket) in the winter.

The "Redskins Family"? There's a delusional concept. Either a person is an actual employee of the Washington Redskins or a person is not.

And how do you know Darth Monk is not? But if you have been living and dieing with this team for over 35 years, as I have, that makes you part of the Redskins family in my book.

I've been living with the wins and losses of the Washington Redskins for over 35 years. I have never lived with the team, nor with any of the players or coaching staff individually. If I were a member of the "Redskins Family", as you have termed it, I would assume I would receive some sense of benefit or entitlement as a family member. Something along the lines of being allowed into Redskins Park without a game ticket, being invited to staff meetings, allowed input into game strategy, permitted to suggest concessions changes and upgrades, allowed to park under the stadium, something ... I receive none of this. Evidently, I have been disowned by a family I never knew existed.

[Fios]

You can get into Redskins Park without a game ticket, it's FedEx Field where they are a bit more stringent. As to the we/they debate, who cares? The fans are around a heckuva lot longer than the people on the roster, without them, the team doesn't exist. I avoid the we usage for the most part but it certainly isn't worth addressing and, frankly, it violates the spirit of address the post and not the person.

[Deadskins]

If I were a member of the "Redskins Family", as you have termed it, I would assume I would receive some sense of benefit or entitlement as a family member.

Wow, you mean you didn't enjoy the bragging rights and feelings of pride you got out of Joe's first stint as HC or the NFC Championship wins over the Cowpies?

[DarthMonk]

I can't think of any teams as impressive as the '91 Skins... Maybe the '83 Skins.

I'm going to say something that bothers me.

I think the best team ever was coached by Jimmy Johnson. They could domintate by running, by passing, or by playing defense.

I think the 2nd best team ever was the '91 'Skins. They really had no weaknesses. They are the kind of team that maybe could have won 8 games when playing the team mentioned above 16 times.

I don't think the '85 Bears would've beaten either one of the above teams 8 times out of 16. Their key was the surprise of blitziing on almost every play. We helped teach the league how to deal with that. That process was perhaps the most recent major evolution in the game.

I think the current Pats have a CHANCE to become the best team ever though they could end up not even being the best team this year. Many games are left to be played.

WE can beat THEM but will have to play our best game in many areas.

DarthMonk

[DarthMonk]

Everyone who thinks the Patriots cannot run the ball, just look at this.

Patriots: 32 Rushing Attempts per game. 4.2 yards per attempt, 934 yards, 133.4 yards rushing per game. Ranked 7th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Redskins: 32.2 Rushing Attempts per game. 3.6 yards per attempt, 688 yards, 114.7 yards rushing per game. Ranked 16th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Yes, the Patriots have a far better rushing attack than the Skins do and run the ball just as often as we do.

They have a top 10 rushing attack. They can run the ball. And they do.

We have played much better defenses than they have, and you obviously know about our O-line problems.

Uh oh, you said "we" and "our." Oh no.

Puh - leez.

BTW - WE can win and I hope WE do. I at least like OUR chances of covering.

DarthMonk

I like your chances of covering New England's wide receivers about as much as I like my chances of covering them. And I ran a 4.30 40 in high school. You can win if you place a bet. Other than that, you can watch along with the rest of us. Then you can take underserved credit if the Redskins win and equally undeserved blame if the Redskins lose.

How I love beating this horse.

When I wrote "COVER" I meant cover the 16.5 points we are getting.

BTW - Why am I doubting your 4.3? That is Darrell Green - esque.

DarthMonk

[DarthMonk]

Everyone who thinks the Patriots cannot run the ball, just look at this.

Patriots: 32 Rushing Attempts per game. 4.2 yards per attempt, 934 yards, 133.4 yards rushing per game. Ranked 7th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Redskins: 32.2 Rushing Attempts per game. 3.6 yards per attempt, 688 yards, 114.7 yards rushing per game. Ranked 16th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Yes, the Patriots have a far better rushing attack than the Skins do and run the ball just as often as we do.

They have a top 10 rushing attack. They can run the ball. And they do.

We have played much better defenses than they have, and you obviously know about our O-line problems.

Uh oh, you said "we" and "our." Oh no.

Puh - leez.

BTW - WE can win and I hope WE do. I at least like OUR chances of covering.

DarthMonk

I like your chances of covering New England's wide receivers about as much as I like my chances of covering them. And I ran a 4.30 40 in high school. You can win if you place a bet. Other than that, you can watch along with the rest of us. Then you can take underserved credit if the Redskins win and equally undeserved blame if the Redskins lose.

How I love beating this horse.

When I wrote "COVER" I meant cover the 16.5 points we are getting.

BTW - Why am I doubting your 4.3? That is Darrell Green - esque.

DarthMonk

[GSPODS]

You can get into Redskins Park without a game ticket, it's FedEx Field where they are a bit more stringent. As to the we/they debate, who cares? The fans are around a heckuva lot longer than the people on the roster, without them, the team doesn't exist. I avoid the we usage for the most part but it certainly isn't worth addressing and, frankly, it violates the spirit of address the post and not the person.

Granted, possessive words make it difficult, if not impossible, to address the post without also addressing the poster. Consider the semantics debate ended.

[Fios]

You can get into Redskins Park without a game ticket, it's FedEx Field where they are a bit more stringent. As to the we/they debate, who cares? The fans are around a heckuva lot longer than the people on the roster, without them, the team doesn't exist. I avoid the we usage for the most part but it certainly isn't worth addressing and, frankly, it violates the spirit of address the post and not the person.

Granted, possessive words make it difficult, if not impossible, to address the post without also addressing the poster. Consider the semantics debate ended.

Actually, irrespective of the stance, whether it be the collective we or the individual I, when you stray from addressing the point the person made toward how they made it, you are violating the rules. And, yes, spelling and grammar are different because those go to an ability to understand the message itself whereas whether a person says we or I does not. You may be a lawyer but I've been an editor for the better part of 10 years, you will not win a semantics debate.

[GSPODS]

you will not win a semantics debate.

Perhaps a topic (and a challenge) for another thread.
Again, consider my semantics debate in this thread ended.

[DarthMonk]

Hey hkhog:

I've learned that you can repeat something until you are blue in the face and people will still read what they want to read. Your initial post was excellent and increased my hope of victory. WE have a shot and I feel like I know why more than I did thanks to your post. I think if people actually read it they will find it to be pretty factual. I think (I've said that a lot, huh?) it comes down to what each individual means when using the phrase "over rated" (or is it the word "overrated" ?).

Your facts are undeniable. The Pats have put up their numbers against (for the most part) exceedingly weak defenses - especially pass defenses. Someone made a mistake (you?) about how often they run but clearly, the scoring is in the passing. BTW - are they passing to set up the run, running to set up the pass, or are they simply balanced? I wonder how much they run while establishing the big lead compared to how much they run afterwards.

Thanks, bro and may the force be with US.

DarthMonk

[Ghost of Red Blaik]

Enough of the talk.....

We are going to win!!!!!

Skins by 14 points.....

Lets go Skins!!!!!!

[Countertrey]

Yes...

I stand corrected. The Patriots offense is over rated.

[GSPODS]

Everyone who thinks the Patriots cannot run the ball, just look at this.

Patriots: 32 Rushing Attempts per game. 4.2 yards per attempt, 934 yards, 133.4 yards rushing per game. Ranked 7th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Redskins: 32.2 Rushing Attempts per game. 3.6 yards per attempt, 688 yards, 114.7 yards rushing per game. Ranked 16th in the NFL in yards per game rushing.

Yes, the Patriots have a far better rushing attack than the Skins do and run the ball just as often as we do.

They have a top 10 rushing attack. They can run the ball. And they do.

We have played much better defenses than they have, and you obviously know about our O-line problems.

Uh oh, you said "we" and "our." Oh no.

Puh - leez.

BTW - WE can win and I hope WE do. I at least like OUR chances of covering.

DarthMonk

I like your chances of covering New England's wide receivers about as much as I like my chances of covering them. And I ran a 4.30 40 in high school. You can win if you place a bet. Other than that, you can watch along with the rest of us. Then you can take underserved credit if the Redskins win and equally undeserved blame if the Redskins lose.

How I love beating this horse.

When I wrote "COVER" I meant cover the 16.5 points we are getting.

BTW - Why am I doubting your 4.3? That is Darrell Green - esque.

DarthMonk

Darrell Green was around 4.20 at his fastest. Darrell was faster than the Olympians at the time.

[Countertrey]

I did some indepth research and I came to the conclusion that the New England offense is VASTLY overrated. New England has played BY FAR the easiest schedule in the NFL so far and they play in what might be the worst division in NFL history. Now, I am not saying they are not a good team, indeed they probably are the best team in the NFL right now, but the stats they have been putting up so far are greatly inflated. Now this is going to get quite in depth but I found a lot of interesting things out (like the fact that the Baltimore Ravens are BY FAR the worst team in the NFL with a winning record and its not even close).

First of all, who has New England beaten? The Jets (1-6), the Chargers (3-3), the Bills (2-4), the Bengals (2-4), the Browns (3-3), The Cowboys (6-1), and the Dolphins (0-7). As you can see they have only played one team with a winning record, that being the Cowboys. The record of the teams they have played is a combined 17-28 (a truly pathetic .378 winning percentage). Remove the Cowboys from that equation and it gets even worse, the other six teams have a combined record of 11-27 (.289).

Now let's look at each team's victories in detail. The Dolphins are probably the worst team in football and have yet to win. The Jets are almost as bad having only beaten the Dolphins. The Bills and Bengals are just as pathetic having only beaten the Jets and Ravens each (you will start to see why I say the Ravens are total crap). The Browns are also awful despite a 3-3 record as they have only beaten the Bengals, Ravens and Dolphins. Even the Cowboys victories are not that impressive when you see that three of their wins are against the Dolphins, Rams (0-7), and Bills. When you put this all together it becomes apparent that the seven teams that the Patriots have dismantled this year have a grand total of six victories against teams other than the Dolphins, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Bengals, and Rams. Wow, truly pathetic stuff. If these teams didn't get to play each other so much the Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Bengals, and Browns could all EASILY be winless.

So, lets look at exactly what makes these teams so bad! The answer is easy, DEFENSE! As it stands right now, through seven weeks of the season, the Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Bills, and Browns are FIVE OF THE SIX WORST DEFENSES IN THE NFL!!!! Currently, the defensive rankings go like this:

Rank Team YPG

27. Dolphins 365.1
28. Jets 377.7
29. Bengals 384.7
30. Lions 385.8
31. Bills 402.5
32. Browns 413.0

A-ha! But you say obviously those teams will all be ranked in the last six in defense, they had to play the Patriots! But that is not the case at all. I looked up the individual game stats from every game the Pats had played this year and removed the offensive numbers they had put up against these five very bad teams and then recalculated the Yds/Game they conceded to the other five or six teams they played (five if they have had a bye so far). What I found out was amazing, controlling for the Patriots made viryually no differnce (in fact the Browns stats actually GOT WORSE as they have been giving up 413 yds/game but only conceded 412 to the Pats). After this calibration the worst NFL defenses look like this:

Rank Team YPG

25. Dolphins 352.2
26. Bears 357.4 (see what happens when you sign Archuletta! )
27. Vikings 359.0
28. Jets 368.8
29. Bengals 380.8
30. Lions 385.8
31. Bills 386.0
32. Browns 413.2

As you can see, only the Dolphins stats improved significantly. After removing the yards that the Pats put on these teams from the equation the Pats have only played FOUR OF THE FIVE WORST DEFENSES in the NFL!!!! (or five of the eight worst).

Now don't get me wrong, I truly believe that Brady is the best QB in the game but it puts his numbers into perspective. He has had a dream schedule so far. Any NFL QB would kill for that.

So now lets look at the Redskins. First lets start with some stats. The Redskins schedule so far has been infinately more difficult than the Pats'. The overall record of their opponents is 19-20 (.487). However, remove the Dolphins pathetis record from that and their other opponents are a combined 19-13 (.594). Despite that they are still 3-2 against those teams (4-2 overall) and many outside observers believe they should be 5-1 or 6-0 right now.

And why are the Redskins winning? Because of their stellar defense. There is no doubt that they have the best pass defense in the NFL! On defense, they rank first in QB Rating and Yards per Attempt, second in Passing TDs allowed and Opposing QB Completion Percentage, third in points conceded, and fourth in total yards per game (first in the NFC). (By the way, Tom Brady leads QBs in EACH of those categories - talk about a fantastic matchup!)

That's all well and good but how good are the passing offenses they have played? The answer is EXCELLENT. Every team they have played this year has a passing offense ranked in the top half of the NFL in passing yards per game! Green Bay is ranked 2nd, Detroit is seventh, Arizona is 9th, Philadelphia is 14th, Miami is 15th, and the Giants are 16th. Despite playing all of these very good passing attacks only once this year has the Redskins defense given up more than 220 yds passing!!! Even in that game they only gave up 280.

So essentially, this weekend you have the NFL's best passing offense (which has achieved that title by playing the league's WORST defenses) going up against the best pass defense in the NFL (which has achieved that by playing the NFL's BEST passing attacks). That is a fact! Now, in my opinion, the Redskins defense has EARNED its spot while the Pats offense has yet to face a decent rival. This is just an amazing matchup!

What's more you have the NFL's best WR going up against the NFL's best coverage defender. Sean Taylor leads the NFL in Ints and is second in passes defended. Randy Moss leads the league in TDs and yards. We also all know that Randy Moss is Sean Taylor's bitch as well. In two previous meetings Moss has just 8 receptions for 106 yds and a TD when facing a Sean Taylor defense and Gregg Williams has often made Taylor guard Moss one-on-one. What's more, from watching highlights it is clear that Brady's favorite play this year is to just heave the ball up to Moss and make him go get it. He will not even attempt that this week as Taylor is one of the few DBs big enough and athletic ebough to jump with Moss, if the Green Bay game showed anything it was that such a strategy will most likely recult in 2-3 interceptions for Sean Taylor.

So will the Redskins win? I wouldn't bet on it, after all we still need to score, our o-line is completely depleted and Belichek is a defensive mastermind. However, this game is BY NO MEANS A MISMATCH! If Rabach and Thomas were healthy this would be another story but they aren't. The reason I went to this effort is to show just what a good matchup this is and to give you guys some ammo to throw around if people start telling you the Redskins have no shot. They sure as heck do, they match up better against the Pats than any team in the NFL! When people try to tell you how awesome the Pats are explain to them just how weak their schedule has been and when people say this will be a blowout show that the Redskins have easily the best passing defense in the NFL.

EDIT: Some new info

Some more stats to prove that the Patriots offense is byproduct of the teams they've played. Just look at Derek Anderson, Qb for the Cleveland Browns.

In his first NFL start in Week 2 he played Cincinnati. Anderson threw for 328 yds, 5 TDs, and a 121.0 passer rating. Two weeks later the Pats Played the Bengals and Brady could only manage 231 passing yards, 3 TDs, and a 115.0 passer rating. Cleveland put up 51 against the Bengals, New England could only manage 34!

Then in week 6 Anderson went against Miami. His stats, a 73% completion percentage, 3 TDs, a 142.5 passer rating, and 41 points scored. The next week New England played Miami and Brady had an 84% completion average, 6 TDs, and a 158 passer rating, scoring 49 points.

Is it just me or against the same competition are Tom Brady and Derek Anderson's stats identical!? Anderson played a little better against Cincinatti and Brady played a little better against Miami. This just proves how bad the defenses that the Pats have been playing really are! Please, a guy starting for the first time in his career is just as good!

The other four games this year Anderson has had to play four very good defenses in Pittsburg, Oakland, Baltimore, and New England while Brady has played nobody. Maybe if Anderson had a chance to play the Bills, Jets, etc... as well he would be setting the records right now!?!? People are saying Brady's stats look like a college QB. Maybe that's because he's playing college calibre defenses.

Nice analysis...

[AFLGUY1960]

I did some indepth research and I came to the conclusion that the New England offense is VASTLY overrated. New England has played BY FAR the easiest schedule in the NFL so far and they play in what might be the worst division in NFL history. Now, I am not saying they are not a good team, indeed they probably are the best team in the NFL right now, but the stats they have been putting up so far are greatly inflated. Now this is going to get quite in depth but I found a lot of interesting things out (like the fact that the Baltimore Ravens are BY FAR the worst team in the NFL with a winning record and its not even close).

First of all, who has New England beaten? The Jets (1-6), the Chargers (3-3), the Bills (2-4), the Bengals (2-4), the Browns (3-3), The Cowboys (6-1), and the Dolphins (0-7). As you can see they have only played one team with a winning record, that being the Cowboys. The record of the teams they have played is a combined 17-28 (a truly pathetic .378 winning percentage). Remove the Cowboys from that equation and it gets even worse, the other six teams have a combined record of 11-27 (.289).

Now let's look at each team's victories in detail. The Dolphins are probably the worst team in football and have yet to win. The Jets are almost as bad having only beaten the Dolphins. The Bills and Bengals are just as pathetic having only beaten the Jets and Ravens each (you will start to see why I say the Ravens are total crap). The Browns are also awful despite a 3-3 record as they have only beaten the Bengals, Ravens and Dolphins. Even the Cowboys victories are not that impressive when you see that three of their wins are against the Dolphins, Rams (0-7), and Bills. When you put this all together it becomes apparent that the seven teams that the Patriots have dismantled this year have a grand total of six victories against teams other than the Dolphins, Bills, Jets, Ravens, Bengals, and Rams. Wow, truly pathetic stuff. If these teams didn't get to play each other so much the Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Bengals, and Browns could all EASILY be winless.

So, lets look at exactly what makes these teams so bad! The answer is easy, DEFENSE! As it stands right now, through seven weeks of the season, the Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Bills, and Browns are FIVE OF THE SIX WORST DEFENSES IN THE NFL!!!! Currently, the defensive rankings go like this:

Rank Team YPG

27. Dolphins 365.1
28. Jets 377.7
29. Bengals 384.7
30. Lions 385.8
31. Bills 402.5
32. Browns 413.0

A-ha! But you say obviously those teams will all be ranked in the last six in defense, they had to play the Patriots! But that is not the case at all. I looked up the individual game stats from every game the Pats had played this year and removed the offensive numbers they had put up against these five very bad teams and then recalculated the Yds/Game they conceded to the other five or six teams they played (five if they have had a bye so far). What I found out was amazing, controlling for the Patriots made viryually no differnce (in fact the Browns stats actually GOT WORSE as they have been giving up 413 yds/game but only conceded 412 to the Pats). After this calibration the worst NFL defenses look like this:

Rank Team YPG

25. Dolphins 352.2
26. Bears 357.4 (see what happens when you sign Archuletta! )
27. Vikings 359.0
28. Jets 368.8
29. Bengals 380.8
30. Lions 385.8
31. Bills 386.0
32. Browns 413.2

As you can see, only the Dolphins stats improved significantly. After removing the yards that the Pats put on these teams from the equation the Pats have only played FOUR OF THE FIVE WORST DEFENSES in the NFL!!!! (or five of the eight worst).

Now don't get me wrong, I truly believe that Brady is the best QB in the game but it puts his numbers into perspective. He has had a dream schedule so far. Any NFL QB would kill for that.

So now lets look at the Redskins. First lets start with some stats. The Redskins schedule so far has been infinately more difficult than the Pats'. The overall record of their opponents is 19-20 (.487). However, remove the Dolphins pathetis record from that and their other opponents are a combined 19-13 (.594). Despite that they are still 3-2 against those teams (4-2 overall) and many outside observers believe they should be 5-1 or 6-0 right now.

And why are the Redskins winning? Because of their stellar defense. There is no doubt that they have the best pass defense in the NFL! On defense, they rank first in QB Rating and Yards per Attempt, second in Passing TDs allowed and Opposing QB Completion Percentage, third in points conceded, and fourth in total yards per game (first in the NFC). (By the way, Tom Brady leads QBs in EACH of those categories - talk about a fantastic matchup!)

That's all well and good but how good are the passing offenses they have played? The answer is EXCELLENT. Every team they have played this year has a passing offense ranked in the top half of the NFL in passing yards per game! Green Bay is ranked 2nd, Detroit is seventh, Arizona is 9th, Philadelphia is 14th, Miami is 15th, and the Giants are 16th. Despite playing all of these very good passing attacks only once this year has the Redskins defense given up more than 220 yds passing!!! Even in that game they only gave up 280.

So essentially, this weekend you have the NFL's best passing offense (which has achieved that title by playing the league's WORST defenses) going up against the best pass defense in the NFL (which has achieved that by playing the NFL's BEST passing attacks). That is a fact! Now, in my opinion, the Redskins defense has EARNED its spot while the Pats offense has yet to face a decent rival. This is just an amazing matchup!

What's more you have the NFL's best WR going up against the NFL's best coverage defender. Sean Taylor leads the NFL in Ints and is second in passes defended. Randy Moss leads the league in TDs and yards. We also all know that Randy Moss is Sean Taylor's bitch as well. In two previous meetings Moss has just 8 receptions for 106 yds and a TD when facing a Sean Taylor defense and Gregg Williams has often made Taylor guard Moss one-on-one. What's more, from watching highlights it is clear that Brady's favorite play this year is to just heave the ball up to Moss and make him go get it. He will not even attempt that this week as Taylor is one of the few DBs big enough and athletic ebough to jump with Moss, if the Green Bay game showed anything it was that such a strategy will most likely recult in 2-3 interceptions for Sean Taylor.

So will the Redskins win? I wouldn't bet on it, after all we still need to score, our o-line is completely depleted and Belichek is a defensive mastermind. However, this game is BY NO MEANS A MISMATCH! If Rabach and Thomas were healthy this would be another story but they aren't. The reason I went to this effort is to show just what a good matchup this is and to give you guys some ammo to throw around if people start telling you the Redskins have no shot. They sure as heck do, they match up better against the Pats than any team in the NFL! When people try to tell you how awesome the Pats are explain to them just how weak their schedule has been and when people say this will be a blowout show that the Redskins have easily the best passing defense in the NFL.

EDIT: Some new info

Some more stats to prove that the Patriots offense is byproduct of the teams they've played. Just look at Derek Anderson, Qb for the Cleveland Browns.

In his first NFL start in Week 2 he played Cincinnati. Anderson threw for 328 yds, 5 TDs, and a 121.0 passer rating. Two weeks later the Pats Played the Bengals and Brady could only manage 231 passing yards, 3 TDs, and a 115.0 passer rating. Cleveland put up 51 against the Bengals, New England could only manage 34!

Then in week 6 Anderson went against Miami. His stats, a 73% completion percentage, 3 TDs, a 142.5 passer rating, and 41 points scored. The next week New England played Miami and Brady had an 84% completion average, 6 TDs, and a 158 passer rating, scoring 49 points.

Is it just me or against the same competition are Tom Brady and Derek Anderson's stats identical!? Anderson played a little better against Cincinatti and Brady played a little better against Miami. This just proves how bad the defenses that the Pats have been playing really are! Please, a guy starting for the first time in his career is just as good!

The other four games this year Anderson has had to play four very good defenses in Pittsburg, Oakland, Baltimore, and New England while Brady has played nobody. Maybe if Anderson had a chance to play the Bills, Jets, etc... as well he would be setting the records right now!?!? People are saying Brady's stats look like a college QB. Maybe that's because he's playing college calibre defenses.

.....And how do you feel about your analysis now? I didn't respond last week because I was not registered yet, but I read your claptrap and could not believe it.

1. You conveniently left off any specific manetion of SD as one of the D's the Pats faced.
2. You failed to deduct the loss to the Patriots from each of their opponents records, which would have had them playing more teams with winning records (3 instead of 1).
3. You removed the Cowboys record to make the Pats opposotion look worse but you did not remove the Dolphon's 0-7 and the six losses the Pats laid on those opponents- which would have made the oppositon over .500 at 17-15.

You said the following:

"What's more, from watching highlights it is clear that Brady's favorite play this year is to just heave the ball up to Moss and make him go get it."

Maybe you should actually watch a game or two.

"Despite that they are still 3-2 against those teams (4-2 overall) and many outside observers believe they should be 5-1 or 6-0 right now. "

Why not 7-0- think that is true after today?

Your conclusion was pure baloney. You assumed they were over-rated. Your conclusion should have been that they have been exceptional but have not been not fully tested. What do you think now? Let me guess- you were right and this whooping was a mirage caused by bad calls, statistical anomalies, and injuries.

I hope you never again make as much of a fool of yourself as you did this week. Comparing Derek Anderson favorable to Brady was priceless.

And to close- in case you have the guts to return- one alst quote from you analysis:

"They sure as heck do, they match up better against the Pats than any team in the NFL! When people try to tell you how awesome the Pats are explain to them just how weak their schedule has been and when people say this will be a blowout show that the Redskins have easily the best passing defense in the NFL."

BRILLIANT!!!!

[please_remain_calm]

I doubt we will see hkhog back around these parts, at least not being taken seriously!

[Countertrey]

Per AFLGUY1960:

BRILLIANT!!!!

[skinsfan#33]

.....And how do you feel about your analysis now? I didn't respond last week because I was not registered yet, but I read your claptrap and could not believe it.

1. You conveniently left off any specific manetion of SD as one of the D's the Pats faced.
2. You failed to deduct the loss to the Patriots from each of their opponents records, which would have had them playing more teams with winning records (3 instead of 1).
3. You removed the Cowboys record to make the Pats opposotion look worse but you did not remove the Dolphon's 0-7 and the six losses the Pats laid on those opponents- which would have made the oppositon over .500 at 17-15.

Way to go out there on a limb... AFTER THE GAME!
Coments on your points.
#1 SD def is now #18 (and the Skins D is now #12 - down from #5)
#2 Why would you deduct the loss to the Partiots
#3 Removing the Cowboys record was a bit of a stretch and really illustrates nothing, just like removing Miami's record proves nothing.

Prior to the Skins game the record of the Patriots oppostion was 17-28 - No if, and, or Buts; that is what it was. I'll even update that for last weeks games 20-34, or 37% wins to 63% losses. Remove the losses to the Patriots and that only drops to 20-26, or 43% losing. A pretty light schedule.

I must say I believe there isn't a team playing this year that should beat the Patriot! I think the Colts wil lose by more than 10 and probably closer to 21. But this team isn't even close to the best team ever. And no matter how many games Billy B trys to run up the score won't change that fact.

[BnGhog]

Ive been saying this all season long. Our D has its flows. Using the cover 3 leaves the short routes wide open, and everyone and I mean everyone, knows cover 2 or Tampa 2 has its flaws. That simple. If the MLB stays close to line to watch the run the hole is in the deep middle, if the MLB backsup to cover the deep middle, then the short middle is open.

The D did what they were trying to do by keeping the big plays limited, and Pats jus capitalized on what we were giving them.

Every Zone D has its holes and when our D or when GWs calls the same three plays over and over and over again. I don't care how they try to hide it, Brady and BB knew we were going to do one of three plays. GWs is suppose to be better than that IMO. And on top of that he don't mix in any Blitzes.

We've been lucky enough that other teams have seen that. Now, as far as can tell thats the big difference in the Pats. They obviously looked at our game film, they change their O to beat our D. Now, what we do on O. We run our game plan, we might try to get "so and so" involved, we might try to use Sellers. But thats not the thing to do. You have to see what kind of D the Jets "for example" usually play. We find the holes, thats the man we throw to, the guy we can get to the hole. Why do you think Wes Welker was killing us so much? He's their speedy guy that can get to the spot "middle short or middle deep or any other hole in the zone" and get there quickly before our D see what happining.


Now, to go back to the Derrick Anderson and Brady thing. I still don't think Brady is that much better than some others. If you switch last weekend. switch Brady with JC... With the mix of the gameplan they had, and the entire team effort they had, I think JC could but up numbers very close to Brady's. I mean everything from the WRs being in the right spot, the WRs catching the dang ball, and the line giving him all day to throw the ball, IMO, if JC had all of that plus the perfact game plan he could be that great, which brings me to my point. It's not Brady's greatness that is making the Pats that good. Its the combination of everything. Jus think for one minute, how great would he be in the Gibbs/Al offense, with game planning like, get the ball to Sellers more, or to ey more. Don't worry about holes in the D, and we aren't going to get plays together to find the holes in the opposing D. We are going to dictate to the D and do what we want to do on O no matter what kind of D they are playing. Thats not a formula Brady would be sucessfull in, then again who would?

[Countertrey]

I still don't think Brady is that much better than some others.

Amazing.

[GSPODS]

I still don't think Brady is that much better than some others.

Amazing.

He must be referring to Marsha Brady.

[die cowboys die]

Comparing Derek Anderson favorable to Brady was priceless.

yes, because it's insulting to derek anderson, since he actually makes quite a good deal of impressive throws, whereas brady has barely made a single downfield throw this entire season that shouldn't have been intercepted. every highlight clip essentially shows brady making a perfect throw- right to a defender or two, that is. then randy moss bails him out by either coming back/across the 2-to-5 yards to which the ball was horribly inaccurately delivered, and either jumping up over top of them because he is 11 feet tall, or simply shoving them out of the way before making the catch (apparently, offensive pass interference is legal if you are on a team the league has decided is its big-hype meal ticket for the year). the other thing that happens is he gets lucky and the defender just plain doesn't turn around to intercept the ball, so it goes right by his ear and into his WR's hands.

or, was i supposed to be impressed when he throws the 7 yard dump-off passes to his checkdown, and that guy makes a spectacular play to spin off defenders and run 20-80 yards for the TD? impressed with the WR, yes. with brady? god, no.

let's just see what happens when a couple of his linemen get injured (like what campbell is dealing with). we all know what kinds of decisions and throws brady is capable of making on the run/under pressure:




(stunningly enough, the throw he is about to make while falling down results in an interception).