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1niksder wrote:

The Hogster wrote:I actually read this twice looking for a point. I guess that was my fault assuming that you were capable of making one. This is typical of someone in defeat. When you have nowhere else to turn, resort to blather.

Pot meet Kettle

Oh you want my point. Okay.

1niksider wrote & chastized those who disagreed:

Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.

Prioleau was the starter? Where's this info from? Skins don't publish depth chart in the offseason. Unanswered questions. But proclaims he uses 'facts'. There's more.

1niksider wrote:

Just like he wasn't brought in to play a pure safety he wasn't brought in to play a true LB. The team saw something that they thought would work but due to injuries haven't be able to implement it. Troy Vincent's signing but the staff back on course to what they wanted to do. Having a AA down in the box or out on the edge while still having the regular back 7 will be something offenses will have to take into consideration,

Wow...sounds like someone has a line into Greg Williams. A lot of definitive statements. If anyone disagrees, he just tells you his opinion is fact, and you don't know what you're talking about...sorta like this.

1niksider wrote:

My story are the facts you are guessing and making it up as you go.

Really? What facts? That we always planned to use Arch as a situational Nickle or dime guy? Now we can implement it since we signed Vincent? Facts?

1niksider wrote

And you can still listen to the radio and mis-interpet what you thought you heard

Wow, not only can I not read, I can't hear either. Who should I believe, Niks or my lying eyes and ears.

1niksider wrote:

Stick to english because you don't know much about the team you root for at least not when you try to talk about what you don't see on the field

More pompus banter, unsupported by any facts. We're all beneath Niks becase we think the Skins would not sign Arch to a 30 million dollar deal to be a situational backup, hybrid guy.

1niksider wrote:

I'm saying the same thing I said back in March, he wasn't brought in to be a cover guy, but to knock heads near the LOS.

Once again, telling us what Arch was signed for. More opinion that he calls "fact". Hmm Greg Williams said otherwise.

Greg Williams Said:
"

We don't have any worry about him in the run front,"
assistant coach Gregg Williams said. "We don't have any worry
about him blitzing. We know he'll fit in good with that. The next
thing for him to do is to get more comfortable in our coverage
concepts."

Williams said Archuleta is having to learn new techniques,
including footwork, that weren't taught in St. Louis.

Okay, so I'm open minded, called truce and watched the game. And what do you know. Archuletta was not on ANY defensive plays. We now have Vincent. I thought that was the missing piece to Niks' argument? He essentially called me a fool, who didn't know anything for disagreeing. What happened to the hybrid role he was ORIGINALLY signed to play. Vernon Fox took snaps but Arch didn't. But we don't know what we're talking about. Maybe he'll come back and say that was the plan all along.


Then here comes Kazoo:

Dude, you just got taken apart. 1niksder discected your arguments and picked them apart

Really? With that vision, you should apply to be an NFL referee. You'll fit right in.

Ah well, reasonable folks can decide for themselves. It all really speaks for itself. Now here comes the childish "you're dumb" comments. It's really pathetic. But funny too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... v=hcmodule

This thread exposed you as a guy who tries hard, but has a tenuous grasp of the salary cap. A guy who lacks the ability to agree to disagree. A guy who thinks he knows way more than he does. It also is a shining example of how two people yelling bogus garbage can be outlasted by one person qhispering the truth. Life lessons. Now move on.

The serious answer to your post is we have already tried this many times. You pick up random points from old posts. We address your points. You don't process our response, just keep repeating your original talking points and add more lame insults.

You win, my friend, my mind is numb with bordom at this point. I think I figured out how to get my youngest to stop ringing the doorbell. Don't tell her to stop. It gets boring after awhile.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:The serious answer to your post is we have already tried this many times. You pick up random points from old posts. We address your points. You don't process our response, just keep repeating your original talking points and add more lame insults.

You win, my friend, my mind is numb with bordom at this point. I think I figured out how to get my youngest to stop ringing the doorbell. Don't tell her to stop. It gets boring after awhile.

I'm just re-asking the questions that you refuse to, or cannot answer. Maybe if you answered the question, it wouldn't be re-asked. Don't try and say you answered them, the thread is public...people can read even if you think they can't.

I accept your surrender. I understand. You're bored with this, good thing you have that MBA to fall back on...shouldn't you be at work by the way? I'm in between classes, what's your excuse. Burnin up company bandwidth with this? Or are you really unemployed.

I understand you're bored. Losing gets old after a while...winning never does. Have a good one. Next time, just leave it alone if you don't have a valid point. People can disagree.

The Hogster wrote:

1niksder wrote:

The Hogster wrote:I actually read this twice looking for a point. I guess that was my fault assuming that you were capable of making one. This is typical of someone in defeat. When you have nowhere else to turn, resort to blather.

Pot meet Kettle

Oh you want my point. Okay.

1niksider wrote & chastized those who disagreed:

Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.

Show me where I chastized anyone, I stated a opinion and you came back with what you called facts, I pointed out you were wrong and you tried to change your argument; prove that incorrect too and you've been crying and making no sense.

The Hogster wrote:Prioleau was the starter? Where's this info from? Skins don't publish depth chart in the offseason. Unanswered questions. But proclaims he uses 'facts'. There's more.

1niksider wrote:

Just like he wasn't brought in to play a pure safety he wasn't brought in to play a true LB. The team saw something that they thought would work but due to injuries haven't be able to implement it. Troy Vincent's signing but the staff back on course to what they wanted to do. Having a AA down in the box or out on the edge while still having the regular back 7 will be something offenses will have to take into consideration,

That's your problem right there because you say something you want everyone to take as fact I put something out there in hopes it will make people thing and dig for more info on there team. You just yell that's not right I heard this and that instead of listening or looking to see what you have read could be true. You yelling there is no depth chart out in the pre-season should have been a hint at if it was a opinion or not.

The Hogster wrote:Wow...sounds like someone has a line into Greg Williams. A lot of definitive statements. If anyone disagrees, he just tells you his opinion is fact, and you don't know what you're talking about...sorta like this.

1niksider wrote:

My story are the facts you are guessing and making it up as you go.

Really? What facts? That we always planned to use Arch as a situational Nickle or dime guy? Now we can implement it since we signed Vincent? Facts?

If you look at the players on the team and how GW uses them, you'd have known that PP played on most obvious passing downs last year.
The one link you provided in all the non-sense you stuck in this thread even pointed to the fact that the Team had no concerns about Arch playing in the box or his blizting skills the ONE WORRY thay had was his PASS COVERAGE, but that told you nothing, you didn't even get a hint

The Hogster wrote:1niksider wrote

And you can still listen to the radio and mis-interpet what you thought you heard

Wow, not only can I not read, I can't hear either. Who should I believe, Niks or my lying eyes and ears.

I'd have to go with 1niksder based on you interpertation of what you read and heard

The Hogster wrote:[
1niksider wrote:

Stick to english because you don't know much about the team you root for at least not when you try to talk about what you don't see on the field

More pompus banter, unsupported by any facts. We're all beneath Niks becase we think the Skins would not sign Arch to a 30 million dollar deal to be a situational backup, hybrid guy.

Most of what you post is all the support anyone would need on subject, I stand by your rants.

The Hogster wrote:[1niksider wrote:

I'm saying the same thing I said back in March, he wasn't brought in to be a cover guy, but to knock heads near the LOS.

Once again, telling us what Arch was signed for. More opinion that he calls "fact". Hmm Greg Williams said otherwise.

Greg Williams Said:
"

We don't have any worry about him in the run front,"
assistant coach Gregg Williams said. "We don't have any worry
about him blitzing. We know he'll fit in good with that. The next
thing for him to do is to get more comfortable in our coverage
concepts."

Williams said Archuleta is having to learn new techniques,
including footwork, that weren't taught in St. Louis.

So where does it say he was brought in to start? How many teams have you heard of bringing in a guy they know lacks coverage skills to start in cover packages

The Hogster wrote:Okay, so I'm open minded, called truce and watched the game. And what do you know. Archuletta was not on ANY defensive plays. We now have Vincent. I thought that was the missing piece to Niks' argument? He essentially called me a fool, who didn't know anything for disagreeing. What happened to the hybrid role he was ORIGINALLY signed to play. Vernon Fox took snaps but Arch didn't. But we don't know what we're talking about. Maybe he'll come back and say that was the plan all along.

I didn't call you a fool you get off calling people fools, what I said was to look in the mirror when you want to call me a name. I guess we know what you saw when you looked.

The Hogster wrote:[Then here comes Kazoo:

Dude, you just got taken apart. 1niksder discected your arguments and picked them apart

Really? With that vision, you should apply to be an NFL referee. You'll fit right in.

Nice argument - Par for the course though

The Hogster wrote:[Ah well, reasonable folks can decide for themselves. It all really speaks for itself. Now here comes the childish "you're dumb" comments. It's really pathetic. But funny too.

Your right is all out here for everyone to see

The Hogster wrote:[This thread exposed you as a guy who tries hard, but has a tenuous grasp of the salary cap. A guy who lacks the ability to agree to disagree. A guy who thinks he knows way more than he does. It also is a shining example of how two people yelling bogus garbage can be outlasted by one person qhispering the truth. Life lessons. Now move on.

Looking in the mirror again ? So now you're two people? Two brains might have been a good idea, guess it's too late for that now

The Hogster wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:The serious answer to your post is we have already tried this many times. You pick up random points from old posts. We address your points. You don't process our response, just keep repeating your original talking points and add more lame insults.

You win, my friend, my mind is numb with bordom at this point. I think I figured out how to get my youngest to stop ringing the doorbell. Don't tell her to stop. It gets boring after awhile.

I'm just re-asking the questions that you refuse to, or cannot answer. Maybe if you answered the question, it wouldn't be re-asked. Don't try and say you answered them, the thread is public...people can read even if you think they can't.

I accept your surrender. I understand. You're bored with this, good thing you have that MBA to fall back on...shouldn't you be at work by the way? I'm in between classes, what's your excuse. Burnin up company bandwidth with this? Or are you really unemployed.

I understand you're bored. Losing gets old after a while...winning never does. Have a good one. Next time, just leave it alone if you don't have a valid point. People can disagree.

Mondays are Skins day dude. Always have been, always will be. I realize since you were pumping gas between degrees you don't realize we have internet access all over and if you do well you have latitude to do your job as you see fit. Maybe after your next degree you can get a job in an office.

BTW, I do apologize though. I didn't realize your classmates ditch you and you have to seek exchanging insults on the internet for your sole human interaction between classes. I'll try to be nicer.

But, man, that doorbell is just sitting there TORMENTING me to push it!!!!!

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:The serious answer to your post is we have already tried this many times. You pick up random points from old posts. We address your points. You don't process our response, just keep repeating your original talking points and add more lame insults.

You win, my friend, my mind is numb with bordom at this point. I think I figured out how to get my youngest to stop ringing the doorbell. Don't tell her to stop. It gets boring after awhile.

I'm just re-asking the questions that you refuse to, or cannot answer. Maybe if you answered the question, it wouldn't be re-asked. Don't try and say you answered them, the thread is public...people can read even if you think they can't.

I accept your surrender. I understand. You're bored with this, good thing you have that MBA to fall back on...shouldn't you be at work by the way? I'm in between classes, what's your excuse. Burnin up company bandwidth with this? Or are you really unemployed.

I understand you're bored. Losing gets old after a while...winning never does. Have a good one. Next time, just leave it alone if you don't have a valid point. People can disagree.

Mondays are Skins day dude. Always have been, always will be. I realize since you were pumping gas between degrees you don't realize we have internet access all over and if you do well you have latitude to do your job as you see fit. Maybe after your next degree you can get a job in an office.

BTW, I do apologize though. I didn't realize your classmates ditch you and you have to seek exchanging insults on the internet for your sole human interaction between classes. I'll try to be nicer.

But, man, that doorbell is just sitting there TORMENTING me to push it!!!!!

So to make a long story short it's answer choice B), you're wasting company bandwidth. Darn...i just lost 10 bucks....I bet unemployed.

Okay "Kazoo"...you got me. I didn't know that the manager at Smoothie King had internet access...my bad. But I guess that back cubicle does qualify as an office. Mondays are Redskins day huh, we'll here's a gift to you since you can't pry yourself away from the internet.

You can't win talking substance, and you can't win a battle of wits. You're so easily excited its hilarious though. Cheers to grown men named Kazoo.

The Hogster wrote:So to make a long story short it's answer choice B), you're wasting company bandwidth. Darn...i just lost 10 bucks....I bet unemployed.

Okay "Kazoo"...you got me. I didn't know that the manager at Smoothie King had internet access...my bad. But I guess that back cubicle does qualify as an office. Mondays are Redskins day huh, we'll here's a gift to you since you can't pry yourself away from the internet.

You can't win talking substance, and you can't win a battle of wits. You're so easily excited its hilarious though. Cheers to grown men named Kazoo.

Bark, bark, bark.

Wow, what's that smell? It really stinks. Oh my God, it's the smell of HYPOCRISY! Man and it reeks, it's all over.

So you think talking Skins is a waste of bandwidth? Or do you mean conversing with you is?

Two tips:
- Companies actually like people who aren't finger pointers and have other interests.
- If you were nicer to people maybe they'd let you tag along with them after class.

Good luck with that.

Ring!

Its a waste of time for us both, but you sir have proclaimed that your time is so important with your high profile job and all. I just find it funny that such a worthless debate has kept your attention for so long.

I already made my points. At least 1niksider actually tried to make football points....you on the other hand do nothing but through pebbles from the Peanut Gallery.

Your life must be awesome!! I think you have an MBA alright. Master B.... Artist.

The Hogster wrote:You sir have proclaimed that your time is so important with your high profile job and all.

Did I? When?

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

The Hogster wrote:You sir have proclaimed that your time is so important with your high profile job and all.

Did I? When?

Well, I would assume that a beloved colleague, with an MBA would have better things to do than go back and forth in a meaningless spat. I admit, our exchanges have been meaningless by the way. You aren't even making any of the points to debate that 1niksider did.

Hogster

Check this out. Some of this is news to me

Arch Deluxe

Thats an interesting read....as someone interested in the well being of the Redskins, those numbers seem ridiculously high for what he has brougt to the team...I hope we can find a decent solution to this situation.

One thing we all can agree on is that Arch is making too much money.

This was almost 5 Years ago. And, it never gets old. So, what happened to your theory that we brought in Adam Archuletta and never intended to start him at safety, but instead intended all along to use him as a Safety-Hybrid-Linebacker? Classic stuff.

Also funny how your first defense has always been to tell someone that they don't have reading comprehension skills, and don't know anything about football. Blah, blah, blah. Epic. Kazoo & 1niksder, what a team.

The Hogster wrote:Also funny how your first defense has always been to tell someone that they don't have reading comprehension skills, and don't know anything about football. Blah, blah, blah. Epic. Kazoo & 1niksder, what a team.

Actually you're the only one that has been told that on the regular bases. Kinda makes you think doesn't it?

My bad ... I forgot you can't do either of those things. Can you?

1niksder wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Also funny how your first defense has always been to tell someone that they don't have reading comprehension skills, and don't know anything about football. Blah, blah, blah. Epic. Kazoo & 1niksder, what a team.

Actually you're the only one that has been told that on the regular bases. Kinda makes you think doesn't it?

My bad ... I forgot you can't do either of those things. Can you?

You're right 1niksder. I can't read. But, I hired someone to read this thread back to me, and yep, you were wrong as usual!

The Hogster wrote:

1niksder wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Also funny how your first defense has always been to tell someone that they don't have reading comprehension skills, and don't know anything about football. Blah, blah, blah. Epic. Kazoo & 1niksder, what a team.

Actually you're the only one that has been told that on the regular bases. Kinda makes you think doesn't it?

My bad ... I forgot you can't do either of those things. Can you?

You're right 1niksder. I can't read. But, I hired someone to read this thread back to me, and yep, you were wrong as usual!

This is getting old and you are showing your immaturity

If you got a problem with me you know where to take it. It a waste of my time but we can go there if you really want to address me and nit my post. Either way you want to do it is find with me. I don't moderate the members anymore but you aren't going to keep up this BS without something being said.

So if you got a 5 year old itch you want to scratch let's do it. It won't take me over 6 months to respond even if you don't put my name in the thread.

Man up. Stop playing in public forums you've been at it for years.

Sorry mods but if he responds here instead of where he know we should take this, then we'll all know he's just like a female dog in heat by any other name.

Then again that's already been proven considering only a (you all know what) will a grudge on the internet for more than 5 years and hasn't been MAN enough to say anything about it until he get's his feeling hurt.

Sensitive much??

So posting is Smack is for tough guys??? Whatever dude. Explain to me how this internet fight stuff works.

The Hogster wrote:Sensitive much??

So posting is Smack is for tough guys??? Whatever dude. Explain to me how this internet fight stuff works.

Anyone trying to get you to take it to smack isn't thinking of you. I hate to complement authority, but I have to say the mods are pretty tolerant and give us every benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying that in a high and mighty I never push the rules way, I'm saying in an at least I really do try way. They may get sick of the petty back and fourth bickering, but at least in smack they don't have to be constantly looking for people crossing the line while they read our drivel

You guys could learn from these examples. If you read this thread, you will see that it all starts with a simple difference of opinion. The problem arises when some posters think that their 'opinion' is truth and treat the rest of us as if we 1) don't know anything about anything and 2) can't understand the true essence of whatever BS they are propagating.

It happened in this thread and history allows us to see who was right. It happened in the thread where Kazoo argued that the Skins didn't offer 2 Firsts for Kyle Orton. And, it's happening all over again in this Brandon Banks discussion.

A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.

I'm not even challenging you two to be wise. Just be smart if possible.

1niksder wrote:

The Hogster wrote:It seems like you're just making a ton of excuses for this guy. He can't be on the field only in running situaitons, or if he's blitzing. He's a liability if the coaching staff has to draw up scheme's just to avoid exposing him as a fraud. Seriously though, how long do you think it will take for offensive coordinators to find a way to isolate him in coverage? He's no better than Matt Bowen in my opinion.

I not making excuses for him, I'm just not giving up on him. Most of you feel he makes too much but don't know how much he makes, No one is happy with his performance but most admit he was put into a position that he wasn't brought in to play. Now that the Skins have the personell to use him how they originally planned you all still don't want to see if it works out.

If AA is isolated in coverage it'll be with a TE or a back out of the back field. There will be times when he is the 4th LB and times when he'll be the 5th or 6th DB. It doesn't matter how much time the other team takes to figure him out, Williams already has multiple packages for him so any time a offensive co-ordinator spends scheme on Arch will be time not scheming something else.

He still as to get out there and show us that the move was a good one, but before we rip it apart we should atleast see what it looks like in action.

BUMP

Another thread that shows 1niksder at his finest. Arguing vehemently against everyone who calls him out. This time it was about Archuletta. Even in hindsight, 1niksder never will admit that he was TOTALLY WRONG despite his condascending rants about--you guessed it--salary. 6 years later, and he's in Smack--with egg on his face again. This time debating about Peyton Manning.

It's one thing to debate. Quite another to make things up, be completely stubborned--WRONG--then turn around and try to make people think you're somehow right.


Stop this madness.

You dug up a thread that's how old?

About the age that you act around here.

Grow up I'm done wasiting my time with you...

but since you're a kid and want the last word I'm not going to let you have it.

GROW UP

1niksder wrote:You dug up a thread that's how old?

About the age that you act around here.

Grow up I'm done wasiting my time with you...

but since you're a kid and want the last word I'm not going to let you have it.

GROW UP

I dug up facts that prove you've been this way for years, and you won't change. The truth doesn't matter to you. Intelligent discussion isn't your forte. The FACTS, no matter how obvious, escape you. And, you just.....don't........get..........it.

Do better.

As for the last word? All yours. Try to make it count--although I doubt you can.

The Hogster wrote:

1niksder wrote:You dug up a thread that's how old?

About the age that you act around here.

Grow up I'm done wasiting my time with you...

but since you're a kid and want the last word I'm not going to let you have it.

GROW UP

I dug up facts that prove you've been this way for years, and you won't change. The truth doesn't matter to you. Intelligent discussion isn't your forte. The FACTS, no matter how obvious, escape you. And, you just.....don't........get..........it.

Do better.

Members don't need to dig your post up because you're always the same WRONG.... all the digging up threads in the world won't change that.

The Hogster wrote:never will admit that he was TOTALLY WRONG despite his condascending rants

Deadskins wrote:

The Hogster wrote:never will admit that he was TOTALLY WRONG despite his condascending rants

When I read that I thought you'd screwed up the nesting. But nope, you got it right. Mirror, dude seriously needs a mirror...