Offical Courtney Brown Thread

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:48 am

Here's a link to the article that FredP is apparently referencing.
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2005031 ... -1590r.htm

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:15 am

Redskins Extend Offer to Brown

The Washington Redskins offered a contract to defensive end Courtney Brown during his visit to Redskins Park on Thursday, according to two sources familiar with the situation. Brown is mulling the offer over the weekend before making a decision.

The Redskins have competition from the Denver Broncos, where Brown made his first visit Tuesday as an unrestricted free agent. And according to two sources who requested anonymity, the 6-foot-4, 290-pounder will decide by Monday between Washington and Denver.

The Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers had scheduled visits for Brown next week, sources said. But yesterday, the 27-year-old was expected to inform those teams that he is now considering only the Broncos or Redskins.

Brown's departure from Redskins Park on Thursday night without accepting Washington's offer was a mild surprise, considering owner Daniel Snyder and Coach Joe Gibbs's track record: Once the team persuades a free agent to visit Redskins Park, signing is usually a formality.

Although Gibbs played down that reputation Thursday, Redskins defensive tackle Brandon Noble -- who appeared at Redskins Park to meet with Brown -- said: "Whether or not they let him fly out without signing will be interesting. They've been known to lock people up until they sign."

Brown flew out Friday morning after informing the club that he wanted to mull his options, sources said. And Thursday, Gibbs said, "I don't think there's anything imminent."

Noble said he got the impression that Brown wouldn't make a snap decision. Noble -- who played with Brown at Penn State in 1996 -- and defensive end Phillip Daniels made their pitches to Brown during his visit.

The Broncos were about $1 million under the salary cap but are believed to be creating cap space in the hopes of signing Brown. The Redskins are about $2 million under the cap. A club source declined to reveal the team's offer, but said it has significant incentives tied to Brown's health.

Washington has an edge over Denver in intangibles: Brown, the top overall pick in the 2000 draft, is a former teammate of linebacker LaVar Arrington; and the two remain good friends. This week, the Redskins signed reserve safety Pierson Prioleau -- a stellar special-teams player -- who happens to be Brown's cousin.

One reason Denver appeals to Brown is that its defensive line coach is Andre Patterson, who had the same position in Cleveland and formed a rapport with him. Washington's Greg Blache, however, is considered one of the NFL's best defensive line coaches.

Brown also would be ensured a starting spot in Denver. Washington's starting defensive ends are Renaldo Wynn and Daniels. If Brown joins, Blache is expected to heavily rotate the threesome.

Hours after Brown was released on Monday, Gibbs and Blache flew to Cleveland for a dinner meeting with Brown and his wife, Candace. The trip was a preemptive move since Brown had scheduled a visit with Denver for Tuesday, which was extended to Wednesday morning.

Brown hasn't fully rehabilitated from surgery last fall to repair a torn Lisfranc ligament in his left foot. Brown reportedly failed a season-ending physical with the Browns.

However, sources said that the Redskins were satisfied with his condition after a physical. One source said that team doctors cleared Washington to assume the risks inherent with Brown's medical history.

Gibbs, who was unavailable to comment yesterday, said after Brown's visit: "We brought Courtney in and we gave him a physical so that we understand everything about his situation."

Redskins Note: Vice President Vinny Cerrato's wife, Rebecca, last week gave birth to their second child, Charles. . . .

Players are due back Monday at Redskins Park for the start of offseason workouts. . . .

Gibbs plans to attend the NFL's annual owners meetings, which take place Sunday through Wednesday in Maui, Hawaii. . . .

Last week, Gibbs said that the team had reached an agreement to re-sign offensive lineman Ray Brown. However, the 42-year-old still hasn't officially signed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Mar18.html

diesel44 · Post by **diesel44** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:17 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Mar18.html

Courtney will be deciding this weekend!! Hope we get him.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:52 am

Umm... look at the post directly above the one you just posted... notice any similarities?

:oops:

Oh, and FredP... Garcia went to Detroit... the Broncos have Plummer, Matt Mauck, Bradlee Van pelt, and Danny Kanell. Not that that doesn't prove your point even more, just bringing Garcia to your attention.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:54 am

i really hope we get him. If he stays healthy

diesel44 · Post by **diesel44** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:02 pm

YEAR TEAM G GS TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2000 CLE 16 16 69 61 8 8 4.5 0 1 0 0 0
2001 CLE 5 5 21 14 7 4 4.5 2 2 0 0 0
2002 CLE 11 11 42 32 10 6 2.0 1 2 0 0 0
2003 CLE 13 13 38 30 8 4 6.0 4 1 0 0 0
2004 CLE 2 2 2 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
CAREER 47 -- 172 139 33 22 17.0 7 -- 0 0 0

I hope we get him- but I hope we dont pay much..

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:13 pm

Boss --- Not sure why I was thinking Garcia went to Denver...did he visit there before signing with Det or am I just losing it...?

Thanks...

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:50 pm

So this is what happens when you have ONE thread on an important subject. You end up having 14 pages of posts!
This is enlightening! I don't think there's been a post this long since I had joined thehogs.net!

...bored..

..hope CBrown signs on Monday!

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:58 pm

hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:So this is what happens when you have ONE thread on an important subject. You end up having 14 pages of posts!
This is enlightening! I don't think there's been a post this long since I had joined thehogs.net!

...bored.. ..hope CBrown signs on Monday!

You have to admit, though...it beats the crap out of wading through five or six different threads of the same topic with 14 pages a piece, doesn't it ?
Rage against the machine all you like, kiddo...but it's the very structure of the Hogs.net that keeps you coming back for more.

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:03 pm

You misunderstood me. I thought it was cool to have this long of a thread. I'm not saying that this is silly that we have such a huge thread here which consists of multiple pages. I haven't seen this long of a thread and was ummmm.......happy to see my name as the author.

heheheh....just playin' :twisted:

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:19 pm

Oh, it's like that ?
Okay...you did it. We haven't had a 14 page thread since...well, the last time we had one. Probably "GameDay"...and SkinsLavar loved to take credit for those threads he started as "Offical GameDay Threads" that ended up going twenty-odd pages with play-by-play analysis from twenty different posters.
You did it here. Good on ya.
Go clean off your hand and get back to posting, will ya ?

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:29 pm

Is there something wrong? Is there a problem?
It's not like I said something against you. Is it not okay to JOKE around? Last time I checked the rules, it was perfectly all right to joke around as long as it is approptiate.

Do we HAVE to be political ALL the time?

damnit.....I was just pointing out that this is what happens (a GOOD thing) when such an important subject is expressed in ONE thread. It's not like I said anyting bad about YOU or this website. I'm merely pointing out something that I found interesting.

No disrespect but, cool down.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:43 am

I'm not a moderator.
Check your PM's.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:17 am

Looks like Denver is clearing Cap space for somebody....

Broncos | Plummer Restructures Again - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:03:42 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos QB Jake Plummer once again restructured his contract with the team, freeing up another $2 million in salary cap room.

That puts them around $3M under the cap

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:51 am

1niksder wrote:Looks like Denver is clearing Cap space for somebody....

Broncos | Plummer Restructures Again - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:03:42 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos QB Jake Plummer once again restructured his contract with the team, freeing up another $2 million in salary cap room.

That puts them around $3M under the cap

How far will Danny bend to land a guy Gibbs wants?
Could this be the first player we miss cause of Cole's cap hit?

...tick tock, tick tock

We'll know tomorrow.

One thing is for sure... Courtney Brown knows he is fragile and is going to sign the biggest contract he can get. It is all about the money. Why sign just to ressurect your career when the odds are against you? The guy has not finished a season since his rookie year. He's gonna take the money, who is dumb enough to overpay?

I hope it's not Snyder.

vtfootball07 · Post by **vtfootball07** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:22 am

Apparently Brown visited the Jags yesterday, too.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Mar21.html

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:29 am

If he wants success he'll come to DC, if he wants a fat pay day and to go home unhappy in the end a la Mike Tyson's ass whooping by Lenox Lewis he'll go elsewhere. Either way is fine by me, so long as we do not overpay. He'd be a great addition to the rotation.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:04 am

Brown has now taken a look at Jacksonville, we dont need his broke ass!

Where was he at last year, when we were ranked #1 for all those weeks??

Forget him!

skinz74 · Post by **skinz74** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:55 am

More fodder:

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/032105/jag_18274054.shtml

diesel44 · Post by **diesel44** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:00 am

Article says: Brown's decision to consider a visit to Jacksonville is an indication he's not pleased with the incentive-laden offers from the Washington Redskins and the Denver Broncos that are tied to his ability to stay healthy. The Redskins and Broncos were considered the front-runners to sign Brown.

I knew Brown would be happy with incentives to stay healthy- guess he plans on being injured again. Go figure?

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:12 am

All right...NEXT!!!!!

This guy seems to be gone...who's next?

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:28 pm

diesel44 wrote:Article says: Brown's decision to consider a visit to Jacksonville is an indication he's not pleased with the incentive-laden offers from the Washington Redskins and the Denver Broncos that are tied to his ability to stay healthy. The Redskins and Broncos were considered the front-runners to sign Brown.

I knew Brown would be happy with incentives to stay healthy- guess he plans on being injured again. Go figure?

Don't blame the Broncos or Skins....DARRYL GARDENER.

diesel44 · Post by **diesel44** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:40 pm

Your right- cant blame any teams for looking out for their own best interests when dealing w/ players with this type of history. These guys want millions to play 3-4 games while giving us a sack or two..please.

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:47 pm

Oh well, I really like how Evans and Warner played last year anyways. Along with Clemons in there for passing situations they should give us adequate depth. I'm more concerned about getting a short-yardage back a la Gerald Riggs, a #2 CB, and a #1 WR.

diesel44 · Post by **diesel44** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:48 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=2018307

WHat can Brown do?????