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chiefhog44 wrote:2 things...1)this is bleacher report. It's written by fans.

chiefhog44 wrote:2) understand that Jay was in Tampa as well so why is this fan who wrote this on bleacher report assuming it was Bruce?

chiefhog44 wrote:Stop citing it as a source.

riggofan wrote:How about THREE things? #3 Scot McCloughan said on his very first day that Jay Gruden was responsible for choosing his defensive coordinator. This is such a BS non-issue.

Redskin in Canada wrote:What part of THIS WAS JAY GRUDEN'S decision we have -agreed- you still fail to understand?

Redskin in Canada wrote:If you spent a bit more time READING and COMPREHENDING the information posted, you might get a bit greater insight into what is being posted.

Redskin in Canada wrote:I do not post for your pleasure, I post because I can.

DEHog wrote:Well something that has to figure in when you hire a first time head coach is who can he bring with him, what coaches does he have connections with? Sorry but Gruden didn’t have a lot as evidence by how many assistants he retained. Now look at the DC selection, he had to reach for a position coach he worked with in the past or take a guy who was out of work. Why do you think Fox got Fangio and we didn’t…the spoils of hiring a first time head coach. If you think coaches don’t gravitate to who they know you’re crazy…the good ole boy network is alive and well in the NFL!!

riggofan wrote:Yeah I'm sure that's it. You must be using too many big words for me or something.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

riggofan wrote:Yeah I'm sure that's it. You must be using too many big words for me or something.

Pretty plain basic English language but I understand that the long losing Redskins streak over the last decade and a half may have left psychological effects on some posters more than on others.

Redskin in Canada wrote:Peace brother

fredp45 wrote: For those around when Joe Gibbs was hired, NONE of us knew him either.

DEHog wrote:

fredp45 wrote: For those around when Joe Gibbs was hired, NONE of us knew him either.

He was only the OC of Air Coryell!!!

riggofan wrote:

DEHog wrote:

fredp45 wrote: For those around when Joe Gibbs was hired, NONE of us knew him either.

He was only the OC of Air Coryell!!!

I like Fred's optimism about the new DC. My issue with the hire isn't that he had the bad Detroit defense or that he's a Tampa connection or whatever. I just don't believe the defense is going to be significantly better in 2015 no matter who the DC is. If we'd hired Phillips or even Fangio, I think people would have shown those guys a little more patience while they rebuild the defense. They both have the resumes to stand on which Joe Barry doesn't.

With Barry, I think he's going to be a fan/media whipping boy from day one. What do you think?

DEHog wrote:I think you're spot on and I'd add that Fangio and Wade could do more with less...

New Redskins defensive coordinator Joe Barry is beginning to put his stamp on the team’s coaching staff. Defensive line coach Jacob Burney, who has been with the team since 2010, will not be coming back according to ESPN 980.

The news that Burney will not be back comes a day after we learned that outside linebackers coach Brian Baker will also be joining the ranks of coaches searching for employment. It is not yet known who the candidates are to replace either coach.

Burney was a holdover from the Mike Shanahan years, coming in with the former Broncos coach and recently departed defensive coordinator Jim Haslett in 2010. He had worked as Shanahan’s defensive line coach in Denver from 2002-2008.

tribeofjudah wrote:JOE is cleaning house. He wants to start FRESH ............and frankly, I don't blame him. It's a NEW ERA, relax and wait and see....!!!

Baker not coming back.
Burney not coming back.

Prowl33 wrote:Very good to hear. The fact that the guy got owned in detroit doesnt mean hes doomed to failure. People grow a lot in 7 years, plus hes doing a 3-4 this time, and he had Scot pulling in the talent. Plus hopefully new position coaches that know what they are doing.

“I feel very fortunate to have worked with Joe for the past two seasons,” Chargers head coach Mike McCoy was quoted as saying in the San Diego Union-Tribune. “He’s an outstanding technician and communicator. He gets the most from his players.”

"Washington," McCoy added, "is getting a very good football coach."

Barry was hired by the Redskins on Tuesday after the team took a big swing—but ultimately missed—at an opportunity to hire former 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio. Fangio interviewed in Ashburn over the weekend, but after mulling his options Monday, decided to join John Fox’s staff in Chicago.

Barry, meantime, traveled to the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., with the rest of the Chargers’ coaching staff on Tuesday, according to the Union-Tribune. But by the end of the day, he was a member of the Redskins’ coaching staff. Barry was interviewed by Redskins Coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen at Redskins Park earlier this month.

“This is a great opportunity for a bright, young, energetic football coach,” Chargers defensive coordinator John Pagano was quoted as saying. “Joe is extremely detailed and organized. He’s demanding on his players, pushing them to excel to their fullest capabilities. The players will love playing for Joe.”

SkinsJock wrote:

Prowl33 wrote:Very good to hear. The fact that the guy got owned in detroit doesnt mean hes doomed to failure. People grow a lot in 7 years, plus hes doing a 3-4 this time, and he had Scot pulling in the talent. Plus hopefully new position coaches that know what they are doing.

and

there's no rush - having a better product on the field than we had last season is not that hard to do ...

riggofan wrote:Gruden must like Barry for some reason. Its his job on the line, so he should get the staff he wants.

Prowl33 wrote:
Once we hit #2 itll feel weird here firing a coach just cause they cant win us playoff games but still get us winning seasons.

After we pass #2 we will attract coaches that fit into the #3 category.

My point. Barry will do fine transitioning us to where we need to be, as will Gruden and everyone else. Also who knows, some of these coaches might surprise you with the right people building their teams.