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riggofan wrote:Yeah you're 100% correct - that's why I'm concerned about the fans and the media. It often seems to me when Snyder makes these moves like he is reacting to the fans' negativity or reacting to what is out there in the media rather than doing what is best for the team.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

riggofan wrote:Yeah you're 100% correct - that's why I'm concerned about the fans and the media. It often seems to me when Snyder makes these moves like he is reacting to the fans' negativity or reacting to what is out there in the media rather than doing what is best for the team.

No. You should be less concerned about media and fans, and far more concerned about the "Schottenheimer Syndrome" which is ...

Good or bad season, progress or not, the owner decides that it is just not as much "fun" to become a respectful owner but wishes to come back and play as President/GM after a single season regardless of the progress achieved by those previously in charge.

On the Schottenheimer-Snyder friction

“What it was, was Dan did not enjoy owning the football team,” Cerrato said. “Marty acted like HE owned the team. And what happened was was he got into it with Dan’s partner during training camp, telling him what to do and what he could do and what he couldn’t do, and then his partner kind of set Marty straight, said listen, we sign your paycheck….Dan called me to come back right the day the season ended. He called me and I said I’m not coming back if Marty’s there. He said don’t worry about that, he’s gone.”

riggofan wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

riggofan wrote:Yeah you're 100% correct - that's why I'm concerned about the fans and the media. It often seems to me when Snyder makes these moves like he is reacting to the fans' negativity or reacting to what is out there in the media rather than doing what is best for the team.

No. You should be less concerned about media and fans, and far more concerned about the "Schottenheimer Syndrome" which is ...

Good or bad season, progress or not, the owner decides that it is just not as much "fun" to become a respectful owner but wishes to come back and play as President/GM after a single season regardless of the progress achieved by those previously in charge.

hah - I'm worried about that too! Did you see Vinny's anecdotes about Snyder/Schottenheimer this week?

On the Schottenheimer-Snyder friction

“What it was, was Dan did not enjoy owning the football team,” Cerrato said. “Marty acted like HE owned the team. And what happened was was he got into it with Dan’s partner during training camp, telling him what to do and what he could do and what he couldn’t do, and then his partner kind of set Marty straight, said listen, we sign your paycheck….Dan called me to come back right the day the season ended. He called me and I said I’m not coming back if Marty’s there. He said don’t worry about that, he’s gone.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... s-stories/

riggofan wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:I honestly believe Bruce Allen's horrible press conference and the howling media reaction to it played a big part in this new GM hire. You notice when Allen held that press conference there wasn't anything said at all about possibly looking to hire a GM. It was pretty much completely the opposite, business as usual. We should be thanking Allen for being so smug, smarmy and unprepared for that press conference.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

riggofan wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:I honestly believe Bruce Allen's horrible press conference and the howling media reaction to it played a big part in this new GM hire. You notice when Allen held that press conference there wasn't anything said at all about possibly looking to hire a GM. It was pretty much completely the opposite, business as usual. We should be thanking Allen for being so smug, smarmy and unprepared for that press conference.

Wrong. The decision to bring a new GM had been made before that terrible press conference.

Former Redskins general manager Bobby Beathard is a “real fan” of the next Redskins general manager, Scot McCloughan.

“I think he’ll do a great job for the Redskins,” Beathard said Thursday on ESPN980, noting that he knows McCloughan and his father, Kent, who was a long time scout for Oakland. “I don’t have any doubts about it.”

“I think [team president] Bruce [Allen] will be hands off, let him run this thing,” Beathard continued. “[Allen] recognizes the talent this guy has. Bruce knows him. I think it’s the perfect hire. Every aspect of it, from his ability as a talent scout to his getting along with people. He knew coming in what it would be like working with Bruce, and he figured it would be a great situation. I don’t think he’d have taken the job if he hadn’t felt that way.”

Prowl33 wrote:Wondering if McCloughan will get rid of RG3. From what I see the guy likes to build a good locker room atmosphere of players... and RG3 to me is the opposite of that. If we are gonna have a locker room full of team players, and not in it for themselves diva's, I dont see how RG3 stays.

Plus ive read a couple places he was high on Cousins in tge draft but had Wilson scored slightly higher... could be a sign we see cousins start next year as a temporary solution unless he can prove otherwise.

Prowl33 wrote:From what I see the guy likes to build a good locker room atmosphere of players... and RG3 to me is the opposite of that. If we are gonna have a locker room full of team players, and not in it for themselves diva's, I dont see how RG3 stays.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Prowl33 wrote:From what I see the guy likes to build a good locker room atmosphere of players... and RG3 to me is the opposite of that. If we are gonna have a locker room full of team players, and not in it for themselves diva's, I dont see how RG3 stays.

You've been in the locker room? Because all reports seem to indicate the opposite of what you're saying, as far as his locker room presence is concerned.

tribeofjudah wrote:He needs AA and a sponsor and support. He needs Near Beer or Odouls?

NO.......he just needs to have a CLEAR mind and get us studs in the draft and free agency.

He tried to deaden the pain by logging more hours, refusing to delegate. At Christmas, he watched his kids open presents, then left to go to the office, even though he had nothing to do. He ended up turning back home, but a dull guilt remained. When he was at work he should be at home; when he was at home he should be at work. And he kept drinking, which made him feel guiltiest of all. Work and life “became too much for him,” Kent says. His marriage started crumbling. Kelli, who declined to speak for this story, told Kent, “We have to do something.” Scot checked into a Betty Ford clinic, hoping to save his marriage. “It worked,” McCloughan says.

“For a whileThe next day he feels almost biologically compelled to work for a team, as if he owes it to his family and to his talent. His father, for one, wanted him to stay with an organization rather than run his own business. It’s a longing McCloughan struggles to articulate, which is probably why his farmhouse is livable but temporary. He wants to win another Super Bowl, and he wants to learn whether he can do so and still be his best self. The pressure, internal and external, is slowly creeping up. His name has been floated for expected openings in Oakland and elsewhere. Some scouts, eager to climb on board, have visited him in Ferndale for face time. McCloughan has mapped out potential hires for key positions, a support system of people who accept him, faults and all.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

1. In looking around to read as much as I can on Scot McCloughan there is one point that comes up frequently—he like big guys. “I’ll never lose sight of this and maybe I’m a dinosaur in this, but it’s a big man’s game,” he said at the 2010 NFL Combine when he was the GM of the 49ers.

2. So, don’t look for the Redskins to draft that undersized but feisty linebacker or a small but high-motor defensive lineman. And you have to think that 295-lb. center Kory Lichtensteiger and 5-10, 178-lb. wide receiver DeSean Jackson may not have long futures with the team. As to the future of the latter player, John Keim of ESPN noted that McCloughan drafted eight receivers at San Francisco and all but one were at least six feet tall and five were 6-1 or taller. And if the Redskins stick with the 3-4 defense it’s hard not to be very pessimistic on the future of Barry Cofield, who is not the traditional big-body nose tackle that is usually in the middle of the line in that scheme.

3. However, it’s not a hard and fast rule. When they were evaluating 5-10 quarterback Russell Wilson before the 2012 draft, McCloughan wrote this in his report: “Obviously we are really interested in passers with better height, but this guy may just be the exception to the rule. He has the ‘it’ factor.” We saw how that pick turned out in last year’s Super Bowl.

Out: As noted here yesterday it is going to take a while for McCloughan to build the Redskins the way he wants to. It’s not just a matter of getting good players, it’s a matter of getting the right kind of good players (i.e. big players) and then giving them some time to develop.

As noted here yesterday it is going to take a while for McCloughan to build the Redskins the way he wants to. It’s not just a matter of getting good players, it’s a matter of getting the right kind of good players (i.e. big players) and then giving them some time to develop.

DEHog wrote:

As noted here yesterday it is going to take a while for McCloughan to build the Redskins the way he wants to. It’s not just a matter of getting good players, it’s a matter of getting the right kind of good players (i.e. big players) and then giving them some time to develop.

Maybe not he said the Redskins are > 9ers when he got there