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SkinsJock wrote:

DarthMonk wrote: CC says we have found our RT in Compton and we should explore Morgan Moses at RG.

I'm hopeful that Compton, Moses and Long can contribute here - the O line will take time but everyone (except Trent) from the group that were starters in 2013 need to be gone - Kory will most likely stay but he's now a center

DarthMonk wrote:C00ley says we have found our RT in Compton

and we should explore Morgan Moses at RG.

Irn-Bru wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:C00ley says we have found our RT in Compton

I know he's been looking at film, whereas I haven't, but I'm still surprised to hear that.

and we should explore Morgan Moses at RG.

Not a bad idea. Turns out this year's class of linemen maybe wasn't so deep after all. They guy I wanted before the draft can't even get playing time in Buffalo, whose offensive line is substantially worse than ours.

Chris C00ley said:

Finally, Tom Compton. He's really good in the front side of run plays ... and the backside of run plays. I love this kid. I'd build around this kid. Everyone right now is saying we need a right tackle. I stop that right now. We have 'em. We have a right tackle. Tom Compton's our right tackle. If I'm the GM I say I've got my right tackle. I do. I feel good about havin' my right tackle. And now I'm gonna say is Morgan Moses this guy that can play right guard. Is he this guy who can step in and be a good guard for me. Cuz he might be that guy. But I like what Tom Compton is doing at right tackle. And if I want Morgan Moses there I'm gonna say is Tom Compton the guard. Tom Compton ... everyone says I want this young gritty guy that we find out of nowhere that we want to be on our offensive line. You got 'em. And he's playing for you. And he's playing pretty well for you. Now he can be better. But even when he messes up sometimes he's got enough athleticism which surprises me to get himself back into plays. He's not great but this is a young player playing really early in his career doing good things. He was a B+.

Although Redskins fans are already screaming for the team to take offensive linemen in the draft, there are other ways to upgrade the line. One way is staying in house. In the past three drafts the Redskins have take four offensive linemen—Compton (2012-6th round), Josh LeRibeus (2012-3rd), Morgan Moses (2014-3rd), and Spencer Long (2014-3rd). If you don’t think they are ready to contribute there are options in free agency. After making some cap-related cuts the Redskins should end up with something in the neighborhood of $20 million in cap space.

I would have Moses and Compton have an offseason-long competition for the right tackle job and hope that Moses, who has the physical tools to be very good but who needs a lot of work on his techniques, wins out. Chester would be one of the above-mentioned cap casualties, saving $4 million against the cap. Long and LeRibeus would battle it out for that job. Because of the head-scratching contract they gave Lauvao (4 years, $17 million, $5 million guaranteed), Lauvao would be tough to cut as they would have to eat $3 million in dead cap space. I’d spend a second- or third-round pick on a guard and put him on the fast track to replace Lauvao sometime between the middle of the 2015 season and the start of 2016.

StorminMormon86 wrote:C00ley has been saying all year that our line is not in any way, shape, or form as bad as certain fans claim.

PAPDOG67 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:C00ley has been saying all year that our line is not in any way, shape, or form as bad as certain fans claim.

ey needs to go watch some more film. He couldn't be more wrong on this assessment. Our line is putrid minus Trent.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

Believe it or not, a lot of our sacks this year have come because the RB didn't pick up a block, or a TE completely missed a rusher. That's not the fault of the o-line. At least 3 sacks from last weeks game were the result of the TE or RB.

DarthMonk wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

Believe it or not, a lot of our sacks this year have come because the RB didn't pick up a block, or a TE completely missed a rusher. That's not the fault of the o-line. At least 3 sacks from last weeks game were the result of the TE or RB.

I'd put a lot of our sacks on our slow-motion attitude. We get to the line with less than 10 seconds on the play clock and have no chance to do anything but say hut, hut, hut ... or call a time out.

Other offenses hustle and have a chance to undress our defense with one or more false snap counts.

I watched Oregon last night. They got to the line of scrimmage within 10 seconds after being tackled consistently. We don't even do that in 2-minute drill. WTF? SMMFH

StorminMormon86 wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

Believe it or not, a lot of our sacks this year have come because the RB didn't pick up a block, or a TE completely missed a rusher. That's not the fault of the o-line. At least 3 sacks from last weeks game were the result of the TE or RB.

Irn-Bru wrote:

PAPDOG67 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:C00ley has been saying all year that our line is not in any way, shape, or form as bad as certain fans claim.

ey needs to go watch some more film. He couldn't be more wrong on this assessment. Our line is putrid minus Trent.

OK, casual Sunday observer guy. You really countered his research and reasoned claims there with that "putrid" remark.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

Believe it or not, a lot of our sacks this year have come because the RB didn't pick up a block, or a TE completely missed a rusher. That's not the fault of the o-line. At least 3 sacks from last weeks game were the result of the TE or RB.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^ im not a coach.. but its clear as daylight that who ever is behind center will be running for their life and sacked 5 or more times per game even just bringing 4. That points to the weak line and poor pick ups from the rb.

Believe it or not, a lot of our sacks this year have come because the RB didn't pick up a block, or a TE completely missed a rusher. That's not the fault of the o-line. At least 3 sacks from last weeks game were the result of the TE or RB.

I agree wholeheartedly! I made a thread about our poor blocking and pointed out we dont really have good blocking TEs, and our rbs miss blocks every damn pass play- even helu whom is considered the better of he and Al.
I called for D young and double te sets w an extra lineman... but nope