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funbuncher wrote:ive been talking DRAFT on your board all week smart guy, with no one interested. guess I should have launched an attack on someone if I wanted a discussion.

funbuncher wrote:ive been talking DRAFT on your board all week smart guy, with no one interested. guess I should have launched an attack on someone if I wanted a discussion.

The Hogster wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Can we start an "aging knee thread," and get back on topic? I'm at the gym and reading your banter has been fun but I'd prefer a link to Morgan's highlights if that's not to much to ask?

Morgan Moses Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3bzjkeCaWI

I wasn't a huge fan of him, but he doesn't have OLD KNEES!!!! LOL

Neo wrote:Are there any solid CBs or Safeties still on the board?

For the most part, I'm not too familiar with this draft class (w/ the exception of a few players).

Neo wrote:Are there any solid CBs or Safeties still on the board?

For the most part, I'm not too familiar with this draft class (w/ the exception of a few players).

Overview

His first name is pronounced "DAHN-tay." Safety-receiver who also played basketball as a New Jersey prep. Played in 13 games (one start) as a true freshman for North Carolina State in 2010 and had 22 tackles, one pass breakup and zero interceptions. His first career start came at free safety against Boston College. Also returned three kickoffs for 40 yards (13.3-yard average). Played primarily as a nickel defender in '11, appearing in 13 games (two starts) and tallying 27-4-0 with three tackles for loss and three sacks. Moved to the boundary cornerback starting slot in '12 and recorded 70-8-0 with six tackles for loss, one sack and one forced fumble. Teamed with Redskins '13 second-rounder David Amerson to make up the tallest pair of starting cornerbacks in the country. Opened '13 at cornerback before switching back to free safety midway through the year. In 12 games (five starts at cornerback, seven at safety), he totaled 82-5-3.
Analysis
Strengths
Good height, balance and athleticism. Can run with tight ends in coverage. Zone aware. Efficient plant-and-drive. Has a 38 1/2-inch vertical jump. Sets a hard edge in run support -- works to get off blocks, throws his weight around and tackles aggressively. Has played safety, cornerback, nickel and special teams. Smart and hardworking.
Weaknesses
Is lean and needs to bulk up and get stronger. Has short arms and small hands. Lacks elite top-end speed (struggled mightily to contain Clemson WR Sammy Watkins). Hesitates to diagnose from depth and takes some inaccurate angles. Shows tightness in transition. Struggles to break down and tackle in space. Ordinary ball production.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Wiry, narrow-framed, high-cut, athletic defensive back who would be best in a predominantly zone scheme where he would have value as a versatile backup.

frankcal20 wrote:

Neo wrote:Are there any solid CBs or Safeties still on the board?

For the most part, I'm not too familiar with this draft class (w/ the exception of a few players).

Johnson, Dontae
CB
6'2" 200
N.C. State

Overview

His first name is pronounced "DAHN-tay." Safety-receiver who also played basketball as a New Jersey prep. Played in 13 games (one start) as a true freshman for North Carolina State in 2010 and had 22 tackles, one pass breakup and zero interceptions. His first career start came at free safety against Boston College. Also returned three kickoffs for 40 yards (13.3-yard average). Played primarily as a nickel defender in '11, appearing in 13 games (two starts) and tallying 27-4-0 with three tackles for loss and three sacks. Moved to the boundary cornerback starting slot in '12 and recorded 70-8-0 with six tackles for loss, one sack and one forced fumble. Teamed with Redskins '13 second-rounder David Amerson to make up the tallest pair of starting cornerbacks in the country. Opened '13 at cornerback before switching back to free safety midway through the year. In 12 games (five starts at cornerback, seven at safety), he totaled 82-5-3.
Analysis
Strengths
Good height, balance and athleticism. Can run with tight ends in coverage. Zone aware. Efficient plant-and-drive. Has a 38 1/2-inch vertical jump. Sets a hard edge in run support -- works to get off blocks, throws his weight around and tackles aggressively. Has played safety, cornerback, nickel and special teams. Smart and hardworking.
Weaknesses
Is lean and needs to bulk up and get stronger. Has short arms and small hands. Lacks elite top-end speed (struggled mightily to contain Clemson WR Sammy Watkins). Hesitates to diagnose from depth and takes some inaccurate angles. Shows tightness in transition. Struggles to break down and tackle in space. Ordinary ball production.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Wiry, narrow-framed, high-cut, athletic defensive back who would be best in a predominantly zone scheme where he would have value as a versatile backup.

The Hogster wrote:

Neo wrote:Are there any solid CBs or Safeties still on the board?

For the most part, I'm not too familiar with this draft class (w/ the exception of a few players).

Jaylen Watkins the corner from Florida is still there. But, at this point, you've got guys from schools we never see. Mayock has a guy from Wyoming rated pretty high. I've never heard of or seen him.

Neo wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

Neo wrote:Are there any solid CBs or Safeties still on the board?

For the most part, I'm not too familiar with this draft class (w/ the exception of a few players).

Jaylen Watkins the corner from Florida is still there. But, at this point, you've got guys from schools we never see. Mayock has a guy from Wyoming rated pretty high. I've never heard of or seen him.

Thanks brother, I'm on youtube now tracking down a highlight video of him.

The Hogster wrote:

Neo wrote:

The Hogster wrote:
Yeah, at this point, that's called "film study". I'm getting in some film study myself to prepare for Day 3. LOL

Neo wrote:Just sharing in case anyone else was interested in these guys (CBs):

Jaylen Watkins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKtwSkiqck

Dontae Johnson (not a highlight vid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VgDSIBx9Q

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Can we start an "aging knee thread," and get back on topic? I'm at the gym and reading your banter has been fun but I'd prefer a link to Morgan's highlights if that's not to much to ask?

Morgan Moses Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3bzjkeCaWI

I wasn't a huge fan of him, but he doesn't have OLD KNEES!!!! LOL

Thanks Hogster!

OL and LB drafted so far..
acquired an extra pick from the enemy..
So far so good!!!

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:The Skins finally have their pick, with a few quality choices. Like most people, I'm pulling for Cyrus Kouandjio. With all the weapons we have on offense, we need a line that is up to the job. Give RGIII a little protection and there's no telling what we can do.

I'd pick Moses.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:So I wonder when the "Bpa" (in this case I'm speaking of the Best Punter Available) should be taken??

frankcal20 wrote:Read on twitter that a scout was noted as saying that he projects out as a center and could has the skills to stay there for a LONG time. My thinking is they bring him in and see how he does. Move Litch back to LG, have Gettis or Lavao & cut Chester ($2.5+M savings). All this is pending if Long can play Center.

Countertrey wrote:Friday was good. Bob's got to be happy.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Friday was good. Bob's got to be happy.

Huge fan of the Moses pick. Not a big fan of the other two, particularly Spencer Long. Seemed like a big reach there. Very reminiscent of the LeRebius pick which hasn't worked out for us at all.