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Deadskins wrote:Some of what you are saying, I completely agree with, but some of it is that very "surface level analysis" you are accusing me of. Yes, hits are cumulative, and can lead to an injury over time, but that's not the case with this particular injury. His injury had absolutely nothing to do with repeated hits, or even the hit he took on that particular play. It was a freak accident that resulted from his body position causing his leg to move like a whip, and his knee hyper-extended. I have no doubt that there are coaching issues behind our poor season, and I have no love for the Shanahans either. But to crow about how you were right all along because RGIII did, in fact, sustain an injury last year is like saying the fence you put ujp to keep elephants out of your yard is doing it's job because you haven't had any trample your garden. Freak accidents happen. Jabari Greer landed wrong and his knee blew out. Not every injury can be so neatly put into your little "Ferrari in a demolition derby" model.

Just say'n.

I don't intend to belabor the point, but the injury he sustained against baltimore was reported to be a hyperextension. The injuries he suffered which left him crumpled on the turf requied repair of the ACL and MCL ... not exactly the same thing. So either "they lied" about the severity of his original injury, and played him with torn ligaments, or he suffered additional damage playing on the weakened hyperextened joint, leading to the more severe damage.

So, it is not a simple case of ONE FREAK ACCIDENT, as you keep insisting.

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sorry Ray - I agree with JSPB in that Mike may not be 'the' head coach we'd like but he has done a lot in helping to rebuild this franchise and IMHO he and Kyle have helped Robert in the transition from a 'college type QB' to being able to better lead an offense in the NFL

the process is ongoing but Robert and the Redskins will be better off for it in the long term
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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StorminMormon86 wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Not sure how much truth there is to this but I have heard that RGIII and the Shanahan's are not getting along. I am willing to bet that Danny Boy picks RGIII over Shanahan, anyone else heard this? It was on NFL and I think the post...I know where there is smoke there is fire, and during last Sunday's game when Helu missed that block and RGIII got sacked and he went to the sidelines it looked like he was cussing Kyle out. I wish I could read lips!!!

I honestly believe there is some truth to this. Too many reports about dissention between them for it to be utterly false.


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It was so bad on Sunday that Shanahan had to interrupt whatever it is Mike Shanahan does on Sunday when he is not coaching football to come out and make a statement about the latest shot to SuperBob – “playing the hits.”



“The story is completely false,” Shanahan said. “There’s just no truth to it.”


The SuperBob diva storyline is a runaway train.


It doesn’t matter if the questions are fair. The fact that Shanahan feels the need to go out of his way to address them on an NFL Sunday shows that they are being taken seriously inside Redskins Park.

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Kilmer72 wrote:
It was so bad on Sunday that Shanahan had to interrupt whatever it is Mike Shanahan does on Sunday when he is not coaching football to come out and make a statement about the latest shot to SuperBob – “playing the hits.”



“The story is completely false,” Shanahan said. “There’s just no truth to it.”


The SuperBob diva storyline is a runaway train.


It doesn’t matter if the questions are fair. The fact that Shanahan feels the need to go out of his way to address them on an NFL Sunday shows that they are being taken seriously inside Redskins Park.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2lfooeVds
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Damage control at it's purest form :lol: I believe Red Lobster and that arrogant twit of his is outta here at the end of the season. Jim Haslett and Keith Burns as well. Hopefully that time comes quick.
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I doubt very much that there is any rift at all between Robert and the Shanahans - NONE

Robert is their QB and both he and the Shanahans are trying their hardest to make things work here …

I firmly believe that all the 'stuff' about a 'rift' are completely bogus

I'm not a fan of Mike or Kyle but all that stuff is just normal 'creative writing' from the Washington sports media
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After last night if there wasn't a rift THERE SHOULD BE ONE NOW!!!!
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DaSkinz Baby wrote:After last night if there wasn't a rift THERE SHOULD BE ONE NOW!!!!


Wasn't a good sign that RGII came into the locker room, that's for sure.
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riggofan wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:After last night if there wasn't a rift THERE SHOULD BE ONE NOW!!!!


Wasn't a good sign that RGII came into the locker room, that's for sure.


Well just more dysfunction, I wonder why RGII went to the locker room and not to Snyder's press box. Seems to me Shananigan and son should be out of here QUICKLY after the season, along with the ENTIRE "coaching" staff and I use the word coaching very loosely...... [-o< [-o< [-o<
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riggofan wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:After last night if there wasn't a rift THERE SHOULD BE ONE NOW!!!!


Wasn't a good sign that RGII came into the locker room, that's for sure.

I read that Griffin and his dad seemed to be having some sort of an argument in the locker room. Don't know how true that is.
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StorminMormon86 wrote:
riggofan wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:After last night if there wasn't a rift THERE SHOULD BE ONE NOW!!!!


Wasn't a good sign that RGII came into the locker room, that's for sure.

I read that Griffin and his dad seemed to be having some sort of an argument in the locker room. Don't know how true that is.


Me either, but would it be surprising? RGIII has to know how that potentially looks to his teammates, these grown men that he is supposed to be leading. Pure speculation on my part. But you know what I'm saying. I don't think Archie Manning runs into the team locker room after every bad game Eli has.
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But actually RGII has been way too involved from day one, and even right after RGIII's surgery. When he was talking about how he wasn't going to run as much. Seems to me that as much as RGIII praises his parents military service, RGII would understand rank. Looks to me that this is going to get a lot worse and players are taking sides. I think maybe RGIII has alienated the team and the pathetic coaching has done nothing but make it worse. Winning cures everything, but when your losing and not even looking professional it's bad. This offensive line looks as bad as it did when Spurrier was here and that is saying A LOT!! We all know RGIII has talent we saw it last year, maybe this is just a down year or maybe he won't ever be what he was last year, I don't know, but what I do know is I have questioned this coaching staff from day one and cap penalty or not, this coaching staff has not gotten any better in 4 years. Take out that 7 game win streak last year and this record reveals what I have said from day 1 Mike Shananigan and son are NOT THE ANSWER.

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Shanahan: We haven’t been dominated like that since I’ve been here.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... been-here/

I could be wrong but the Buffalo Game in Canada comes to mind and I am sure there are others that I blocked out of memory.
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riggofan wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
riggofan wrote:Wasn't a good sign that RGII came into the locker room, that's for sure.

I read that Griffin and his dad seemed to be having some sort of an argument in the locker room. Don't know how true that is.

Me either, but would it be surprising? RGIII has to know how that potentially looks to his teammates, these grown men that he is supposed to be leading.
Pure speculation on my part. But you know what I'm saying. I don't think Archie Manning runs into the team locker room after every bad game Eli has.


I agree riggofan - I doubt that Robert would have taken it too well if his Dad was not mean't to be there - he looked really pissed about things

I still do not think that Robert is having a tough time with the coaches - I think he's as frustrated as anyone about how things went

not a good game at all by anyone - there were just so many bad plays across the board
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Ok, who is supplying the axes and pitchforks? I want this settled this week. :twisted:
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A win over the Giants will mean EVERYTHING

and

nothing :twisted:
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Kilmer72 wrote:Shanahan: We haven’t been dominated like that since I’ve been here.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... been-here/

I could be wrong but the Buffalo Game in Canada comes to mind and I am sure there are others that I blocked out of memory.

The e girls 2 years ago worked us something fierce. Hell the first game of the year was nearly as ugly too!

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I'm actually anxious to see what happens against the Giants. Normally Shanahan has their number. This should give us something to gauge. IMO if it looks really bad, then he has lost his team. If it works, then he is helping his cause to stay here a little longer.
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whether Mike is here or not next season does not depend on a few games

I do hope that we play a little closer to what we're capable of than what we've seen recently
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For the last time get this ENTIRE COACHING STAFF OUTTA HERE!! Take Chester, Polumbus with them.............
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DaSkinz Baby wrote:For the last time get this ENTIRE COACHING STAFF OUTTA HERE!! Take Chester, Polumbus with them.............


Did you notice in the 2nd qtr last night how the Skins went from totally dominating, to totally being dominated in literally one series? It's like someone just flipped a switch and then the Skins couldn't do anything right on either side of the ball. Is that on the coaching staff or the players?
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grampi wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:For the last time get this ENTIRE COACHING STAFF OUTTA HERE!! Take Chester, Polumbus with them.............


Did you notice in the 2nd qtr last night how the Skins went from totally dominating, to totally being dominated in literally one series? It's like someone just flipped a switch and then the Skins couldn't do anything right on either side of the ball. Is that on the coaching staff or the players?


I also noticed when Tuck lined up on Polumbus SACK then he moved inside to Chester SACK then I notice Kyle calling plays to the right!! Sorry but this coaching staff has not shown me anything. Name me one other team that would have the same players starting week after week after week of being dominated and getting your Franchise QB killed?? You mean to tell me that Chester and Polumbus are leaps and bounds better than Leribeus and Compton? Sorry I don't see it. And that crappy response of this coaching staff knows more football than me, is also a weak a pathetic excuse, especially after the every week extremely poor performances and weaker game plans. Kyle calling plays to the weakest side of the line, Jim Haslett having Linebackers cover McCoy as examples, and I won't even start on Keith Burns and this miserable excuse for Special Teams, and is it me or does Josh Morgan look slower than molasses going uphill in January?? I just am so sick of this teams coaching staff and the inability to adjust, or do things that give this team a chance to succeed, and then Shananigan wants to say that they are all accountable?? JESUS F'n Christ! if I hear anymore of his banter I might seriously loose it........
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Yeah. I can't believe how many passes Mike Shanahan dropped last night. And I was especially livid when Evan Royster, I mean, Kyle Shanahan, couldn't pick up a yard on 3rd and one.

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riggofan wrote:Yeah. I can't believe how many passes Mike Shanahan dropped last night. And I was especially livid when Evan Royster, I mean, Kyle Shanahan, couldn't pick up a yard on 3rd and one.

We need players.


We need a completely new coaching staff too. Cause it was Kyle Shanahan continuing to call plays to go to the right side of the line, EVEN AFTER TUCK was owning Chester and Polumbus, but I forget, everyone owns them two....What was I thinking....... =D> =D>
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Not a bad game. Competitive for the most part, had a chance to win, scored. Despite losing to Dallas last week, the G-Men are playing much better now.

That being said...DFL in the division...again. I suspect it's almost a given now that London, Santana and Fred will be joined by Shans and son for the Farewell Tour the last four games. And don't be surprised if Tiny, notorious for falling in love with the Flavor of the Month, goes after Art Briles to appease Three Sticks.
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