Colts at the Redskins GameDay Thread

Jeremy81 · Post by **Jeremy81** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:25 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Jeremy81 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I like Hall but he need to restructure his contract if both Crawford and Minnifield pan out.

Out LB's take the widest angles to the QB. They gotta fix that.

I thought they already let minnifield go?

He's on IR.

Oh, ok...so no one claimed him off waivers

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:46 pm

I didn't get to watch the game: WHY all the HATRED for Ced Griffin.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:56 pm

Jeremy81 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Jeremy81 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I like Hall but he need to restructure his contract if both Crawford and Minnifield pan out.

Out LB's take the widest angles to the QB. They gotta fix that.

I thought they already let minnifield go?

He's on IR.

Oh, ok...so no one claimed him off waivers

Not waived. Signed, injured, placed on IR. Season-long. Full salary ... I think.

DarthMonk

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:58 pm

tribeofjudah wrote:I didn't get to watch the game: WHY all the HATRED for Ced Griffin.

Because he sucks. If you saw the first 2 games, you didn't miss anything. He does nothing well except get burnt to a crisp.

This piece of bread > Cedric Griffin

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:01 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Alfred Morris... Who's job has he just taken?

Train Wrecks'?

AAA was probably already gone, huh?

TimSkin · Post by **TimSkin** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:03 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Jeremy81 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Jeremy81 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I like Hall but he need to restructure his contract if both Crawford and Minnifield pan out.

Out LB's take the widest angles to the QB. They gotta fix that.

I thought they already let minnifield go?

He's on IR.

Oh, ok...so no one claimed him off waivers

Not waived. Signed, injured, placed on IR. Season-long. Full salary ... I think.

DarthMonk

They must think quite highly of this youngster and I know some of you guys do as well. Being in the midwest I don't get to see too much of UV so I haven't seen much of Minnifield. He sounds like an excellent prospect who was undrafted because so many teams were scared of that one word: Microfracture I hope he is as good as the team thinks!!!

TimSkin · Post by **TimSkin** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:05 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Alfred Morris... Who's job has he just taken?

Train Wrecks'?

AAA was probably already gone, huh?

I wouldn't be surprised to see AAA gone on Monday cuts

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:07 pm

^Triple A was not impressive tonight. I was at the game and saw a couple of times Grossman had to redirect him on where to line up.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:08 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Not waived. Signed, injured, placed on IR. Season-long. Full salary ... I think.

DarthMonk

He was waived injured. Went unclaimed, and per the rules reverted to our IR.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:10 pm

Is anybody making something of Moss returning punts?

I know from the first practtice reports Moss was observing punt returns, but I never read that he actually caught punts in practice.

Shanahan is exploring all options with returning punts.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:11 pm

Red_One43 wrote:^Triple A was not impressive tonight. I was at the game and saw a couple of times Grossman had to redirect him on where to line up.

I think Anthony Armstrong cut himself today. Hello Aldrick Robinson

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:18 pm

I saw when Grossman got the call that he was going in. He was like a little kid playing in his first game. I told my friend who went the game with me, that Rex was going to light it up.

Good Rex showed up. We all know that when good Rex shows up, he can be outstanding, but we all know that he is inconsistent.

Besides the fact that he finished, was it 8 for 8, he looked sharp in his demeanor. After his first TD, several of his teammates came out to high five him. He doens't mean much to us fans, but he meas a lot to at least some of the Redskin fans.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:18 pm

> Cedric Griffin

Does this deserve a thread in The Lounge or Smack?

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:20 pm

Will someone explain to me. What happened on that overturned fumble review. We never saw a challenge flag or even the Colts coach motioning that he wanted a challenge? It seemed like ... well, a booth review.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:22 pm

Also, the Gomes hit on the WR when he was called for _____. Those of us at the game don't know. The referee mumbled something. The replay was shown once - it looked clean. Was it helmet to helmet?

BTW - I isolated on Gomes almost the whole time he was out there. He played well. I do see his worth out there. He is not a hard hitter, but he seemed to always be where he was supposed to be and made plays.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:25 pm

Both were blown calls and confirmed on TV. The fumble was a fumble. And, the hit by Gomes was clean. They penalized 10 yards, and I didn't hear what the call was either.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:25 pm

Red_One43 wrote:Will someone explain to me. What happened on that overturned fumble review. We never saw a challenge flag or even the Colts coach motioning that he wanted a challenge? It seemed like ... well, a booth review.

All turnovers are reviewed. No flag needed.

TimSkin · Post by **TimSkin** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:27 pm

The Hogster wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Not waived. Signed, injured, placed on IR. Season-long. Full salary ... I think.

DarthMonk

He was waived injured. Went unclaimed, and per the rules reverted to our IR.

Gotcha thanks for clarifying that Hogster

I was kind of wondering why a team would put an UDFA on the IR but you cleared it up

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:30 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:Will someone explain to me. What happened on that overturned fumble review. We never saw a challenge flag or even the Colts coach motioning that he wanted a challenge? It seemed like ... well, a booth review.

All turnovers are reviewed. No flag needed.

3-1-WAS11 (12:09) D.Karim up the middle to WAS 10 for 1 yard (L.Alexander). FUMBLES (L.Alexander), RECOVERED by WAS-M.Favorite at WAS 10. M.Favorite to WAS 10 for no gain (K.Adams). The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. D.Karim up the middle to WAS 11 for no gain (D.Johnson).

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:34 pm

Red_One43 wrote:Also, the Gomes hit on the WR when he was called for _____. Those of us at the game don't know. The referee mumbled something. The replay was shown once - it looked clean. Was it helmet to helmet?

BTW - I isolate on Gomes almost the hole time he was out there. I played well. I do see his worth out there. He is not a hard hitter, but he seemed to always be where he was supposed to be and made plays.

I saw it twice. He hot the guy cleanly as the ball was hitting the guys hands. He did not lower his head. Initial contact was torso to shoulder. Inertia and momentun conservation made the receiver's head move in Gomes' direction. Their helmets may have touched. He did not abuse a defenseless receiver. He broke up the pass. Bad call.

1-10-IND30
(2:50) (Shotgun) C.Harnish pass incomplete deep right to J.Sambrano (D.Gomes). PENALTY on WAS-D.Gomes, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at IND 30 - No Play. Helmet to helmet

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:35 pm

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:Morris looks great, but I still prefer Royster and Helu, although Helu's health worries me.

Why? Not that you're wrong but I'd like to know what it is that you prefer.

Yeah, I love Helu's movement, he's so elusive. Royster always seems to get about 2 or 3 yards more than he's meant to, great desire and drive.

Morris is good and strong, but my impression, and I may well be wrong on this, is that his skill set isn't as strong as Helu or Royster, they seem to have more lateral speed and ability with the ball in their hands.

But that's just my opinion. I say we need to keep all four for the season.

Hey SLR, just want give you a perspective on this topic from being at the game.

On Royster, probably no one on the roster better than him in making the right read to the whole and making one cut. Also has wiggle in his step and makes people miss. You have a point liking Royster.

Helu is learning to read the holes, but he has the speed. He makes one cut and he is up the field. You have a point in liking Helu.

Hightower has quick feet, but if you notice his feet in the game, he has yet to master the one cut. He sometimes tries more than one cut to find his wholes. I can see why you didn't mention him, but his uick feet make his a good back as well.

That brings us to Morris. One cut and up the field with power. Doesn't read the holes as well as Royster, but I would say better than Helu. I think that he has good vision and feel which he demonstrated tonight on that backside against the grain cut for over 20 yards.

I am with you - keep all four as they all bring something different to the table.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:35 pm

> Cedric Griffin

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:36 pm

Red_One43 wrote:Will someone explain to me. What happened on that overturned fumble review. We never saw a challenge flag or even the Colts coach motioning that he wanted a challenge? It seemed like ... well, a booth review.

Turnovers are booth reviewed this year.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:41 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:Will someone explain to me. What happened on that overturned fumble review. We never saw a challenge flag or even the Colts coach motioning that he wanted a challenge? It seemed like ... well, a booth review.

All turnovers are reviewed. No flag needed.

3-1-WAS11 (12:09) D.Karim up the middle to WAS 10 for 1 yard (L.Alexander). FUMBLES (L.Alexander), RECOVERED by WAS-M.Favorite at WAS 10. M.Favorite to WAS 10 for no gain (K.Adams). The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. D.Karim up the middle to WAS 11 for no gain (D.Johnson).

Thanks, I forgot about the new rule about turnovers.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:45 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:Also, the Gomes hit on the WR when he was called for _____. Those of us at the game don't know. The referee mumbled something. The replay was shown once - it looked clean. Was it helmet to helmet?

BTW - I isolate on Gomes almost the hole time he was out there. I played well. I do see his worth out there. He is not a hard hitter, but he seemed to always be where he was supposed to be and made plays.

I saw it twice. He hot the guy cleanly as the ball was hitting the guys hands. He did not lower his head. Initial contact was torso to shoulder. Inertia and momentun conservation made the receiver's head move in Gomes' direction. Their helmets may have touched. He did not abuse a defenseless receiver. He broke up the pass. Bad call.

1-10-IND30
(2:50) (Shotgun) C.Harnish pass incomplete deep right to J.Sambrano (D.Gomes). PENALTY on WAS-D.Gomes, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at IND 30 - No Play. Helmet to helmet

Thanks again - I think that that call was a result of the referees being told that they weren't calling enough of those. Definitely a bad call from what I saw on the replay.