Will Griffin start the opener?

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:53 pm

funsho2 wrote:We still have defensive needs at linebacker and in the secondary. At least four respected cornerback prospects were still on the board when we picked Cousins.......Coastal Carolina’s Josh Norman, Georgia’s Brandon Boykin, Nebraska’s Alfonzo Dennard and Iowa State’s Leonard Johnson. Alabama safety DeQuan Menzie was also still available.

We need defensive help but our priorities are somewhere else.

QB's a pretty good priority. We had 21 starting quarterbacks in the last 19 years. Explain to me again why we only need one quarterback on the roster who doesn't suck.

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:14 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
QB's a pretty good priority. We had 21 starting quarterbacks in the last 19 years. Explain to me again why we only need one quarterback on the roster who doesn't suck.

because...........

you had 21 qbs NOT because the great ones kept getting hurt. you had 21 quarterbacks because you had 21 GARBAGE quarterbacks. (outside of 1 or 2).

so your favorite little team went out to solve your qb dilemma once and for all by using THREE first round draft picks and one HiGH second round pick on a guy who your head coach is staking his reputation on (having done the whole reputation staking thing on John beck and Donovan mcnabb in his first two years in dc.)

that , along with the fact that the redskins roster is indeed ne of the worst in the sport, is why.

that's what Christmas means, Charlie brown.

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:11 pm

funsho2 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
funsho2 wrote: What kind of retarded thinking is this?
You mean because quality quarterbacks grow on trees and we can pick one up any time we like? You win by drafting talent, not for position. A quality guy was there, we don't have that much depth at QB that keeping him is an issue, we grabbed him. It was the right thing to do.
We still have defensive needs at linebacker and in the secondary. At least four respected cornerback prospects were still on the board when we picked Cousins.......Coastal Carolina’s Josh Norman, Georgia’s Brandon Boykin, Nebraska’s Alfonzo Dennard and Iowa State’s Leonard Johnson. Alabama safety DeQuan Menzie was also still available.

We need defensive help but our priorities are somewhere else.

Please stop posting. Clearly you have no idea what you are posting about, and it's actually a waste of time to sit and read your garbage. Each player you mention was available not only at 109 when we traded down, but also all available at 119 when we actually picked. The team didn't feel like there was value at that spot, and then did actually pick a LB at 119.

In fact all but one was available to us at pick 141...

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Tue May 01, 2012 1:10 pm

funsho2 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
funsho2 wrote: What kind of retarded thinking is this?
You mean because quality quarterbacks grow on trees and we can pick one up any time we like? You win by drafting talent, not for position. A quality guy was there, we don't have that much depth at QB that keeping him is an issue, we grabbed him. It was the right thing to do.
We still have defensive needs at linebacker and in the secondary. At least four respected cornerback prospects were still on the board when we picked Cousins.......Coastal Carolina’s Josh Norman, Georgia’s Brandon Boykin, Nebraska’s Alfonzo Dennard and Iowa State’s Leonard Johnson. Alabama safety DeQuan Menzie was also still available.

We need defensive help but our priorities are somewhere else.

Are you kidding? We have enough line backers to play a 3-8 for God's sake, and almost as many CBs.

What we didn't have is an insurance policy for RG3, and Cousins was a steal in the 4th round. This is a kid that might actually be able to come in and play in the second half of the season if the need arose ... he's a solid 4th round pick!

Up to this point, I've had mixed feelings about the Shanaclan ... but this off season, in my opinion, has been a screaming success, and the team looks way better than it has in a long time.

All that remains is for Kyle to tailor this offense around RG3's skills, and not overwhelm him .... all of the pieces are in place.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue May 01, 2012 1:19 pm

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Tue May 01, 2012 1:45 pm

+2

Any person that thinks this was a bad move is either a retard, ill-informed, not in touch with today's NFL, a moron, a hater, or a troll.

Or WORSE, someone in the media that is just trying to creat a fire storm around the Skins and then BLAME it on the Skins!

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat May 05, 2012 1:32 pm

3. Another interesting quote by Shanahan came in regards to adapting to different quarterbacks, as he’s done throughout his career. When he reunited with John Elway, he talked about using more shotgun because that’s what Elway liked. Clearly a few teams are using more and more shotgun, and Robert Griffin III is comfortable in that alignment, having used that at least 80 percent of the time in college.

Shanny said if RGIII is ready he will start Day 1 and Shanny will make adaptations to help him be ready.

http://community.washingtonexaminer.com ... -thoughts/

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat May 05, 2012 1:39 pm

Bill Polian, ex-Colts GM, on a conference call last week: “If you put RGIII in Matt Schaub’s place [as a QB in this system] and leave everything else the same, what you will see is a guy who can get on the corner in a bootleg and scare the living daylights, because of his speed, out of the contain man. If that’s a defensive lineman trying to contain him, that’s a mismatch. We can go into the other stuff, and I have questions. He is not Cam Newton as a runner. He’s a world-class track man and as such is a bit of a long strider and a narrow-base guy as opposed to Cam who is an instinctive, natural runner who makes you miss and is a shake-and-bake guy in a 6-5, 250-pound body. Robert Griffin is not that. But he has enough shake to beat most defensive linemen, and once he sticks that foot in the ground and goes, it’s gone baby gone. You’ll have a hard time catching him. That’s unique. He presents a threat that is absolutely unique. Also, if he pulls up to throw the ball — I would direct you to the Oklahoma film — all he has to do is stand up and flick his wrist and the ball will go across the field 55 yards in the wink of an eye on a rope and it’s accurate. He presents a threat that we really haven’t seen before. If I have to play against him it causes you sleepless nights.”

Looking forward to hearing the first reports from rookie camp about his throws.

http://community.washingtonexaminer.com ... -thoughts/

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat May 05, 2012 7:06 pm

There is no doubt that with everything at stake here for both the short term and MORE IMPORTANTLY, the long term, Mike will do whatever it takes with both RG3 and ESPECIALLY Kyle to ensure that the player and the offensive game planning are ready to go in game 1

I also would be very surprised if RG3 did not show that he's going to be even more special than everybody expects

this kid is going to be good .... and then he's going to become a great NFL QB

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Sun May 06, 2012 1:17 am

I think it is a no brainer that, barring the total unforseen, The RGIII era will begin in New Orleans. The coaches will work with him to ensure that he has the best chance for success.....but i do not think there is anyway he will sit while Rex starts the season.

And actually, i rreally expect nothing less. We have a smart coaching staff. RGIII is a smart, motivated, and gifted player. We already know exactly what Rex brings to the table. To see Rex trot onto the field that first game as the starter , to me, would be admitting that either the staff is trying to cram to much into RGIII....or RGIII is having problems adapting to the play at the NFL level.

Just don't think that will happen....

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:42 am

went out to solve your qb dilemma once and for all by using THREE first round draft picks and one HiGH second round pick

^ +1

DarthMonk

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:45 am

Duh.

RGIII (who cost us 3 1sts and a 2nd) starts the opener.

Cousins, (who cost us a 4th) backs him up.

Rex helps both in film and playbook learning.

With tough schedule we are fortunate to go better than 6-10.

With win on opening day over troubled Saints squad anything can happen - even a winning record and more.

I went to a yard sale with a clipboard. I traded it for a dozen football cards. I went to another yard sale and traded them for a jersey. I went to another yard sale and traded that for a bike.

It cost me one clipboard. My son is riding the bike. When in use, the clipboard is holding paper for the guy holding it.

DarthMonk

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue May 08, 2012 6:42 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
The Hogster wrote:You don't trade up to #2 for a guy to sit.
sorry, WRONG! - we did not trade up to get him for this season

we traded up to get our QB for the next 10 plus years

Mike will start him as soon as he shows he's ready to go

I like this kid and would not be surprised to see him on opening day

BUT - we did not get him for opening day

Orakpo says you'd have to be dumb to assume that RG3 wouldn't start the opener. The rest of his comments sound familiar as well.

“People have to be dumb if they didn’t feel like he was going to be the starter at week 1. I mean, there’s a reason why we moved up, lost two first rounders and a second rounder for the guy: to be our starter. Coach Shanahan (put) the nail in the coffin. He’s our starter from day one. That’s what we’re gonna roll with, that’s what the whole team expected and that’s what we’re ready for and I’m very excited about that.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... _blog.html

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:31 pm

to the hogster - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REMINDING MYSELF AND OTHERS

SkinsJock wrote:... I like this kid and would not be surprised to see him on opening day

BUT - we did not get him for opening day

we WILL see RGIII starting opening day as long as Mike thinks he is ready to go

considering everything else there is little doubt that will be the case

HOWEVER - WE DRAFTED RGIII - NOT JUST FOR OPENING DAY BUT BECAUSE HE WILL BE A GREAT QB HERE FOR MANY YEARS

some here just have difficulty interpreting posts and you have to kind of fill in the blanks

I love lawyers - truly, I do - they make our site better, don't you think? ...

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:37 pm

I have a friend that says "opinions are like rear ends - everyone's got one"

I love using quotes to make a point ....

are we having fun or what

I mean, does it really add to the thread or are you just going with your own agenda - as you usually do here?

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:41 pm

Don't get angry when your own comments are brought up and look misguided in hindsight. The question asks when we think RG3 will start. Answering that with "whenever Mike thinks he's ready" is a useless response that misses the point of the question. Stating the obvious.

The question was when we as fans think he'll start over RG3Ints etc. Focus on making well thought out posts, then you won't have to resort to a lawyer joke when your retorts are shown to be silly--even by a current Redskin like Orakpo.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue May 08, 2012 11:04 pm

The Hogster wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:
The Hogster wrote:You don't trade up to #2 for a guy to sit.
sorry, WRONG! - we did not trade up to get him for this season

we traded up to get our QB for the next 10 plus years

Mike will start him as soon as he shows he's ready to go

I like this kid and would not be surprised to see him on opening day

BUT - we did not get him for opening day

Orakpo says you'd have to be dumb to assume that RG3 wouldn't start the opener. The rest of his comments sound familiar as well.

“People have to be dumb if they didn’t feel like he was going to be the starter at week 1. I mean, there’s a reason why we moved up, lost two first rounders and a second rounder for the guy: to be our starter. Coach Shanahan (put) the nail in the coffin. He’s our starter from day one. That’s what we’re gonna roll with, that’s what the whole team expected and that’s what we’re ready for and I’m very excited about that.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... _blog.html

so what's the point here - how does all the highliting and other BS add to this thread

is this just your agenda here?

is this just an effort to try show someone up?

is that really constructive?

what am I missing here?

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:28 pm

I am a lil late to the party. Anyways I think Griffin should start right away. I am assuming of course that he will be ready. I also think Shanny should simplify the playbook. Last years rookies benefited from the lockout last year. I think the same approach that was taken for Cam Newton and Andy Dalton should be fine for Griff.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:32 pm

no worries - we've all decided that RGIII is good to go .... no matter what

welcome back

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:48 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I am a lil late to the party. Anyways I think Griffin should start right away. I am assuming of course that he will be ready. I also think Shanny should simplify the playbook. Last years rookies benefited from the lockout last year. I think the same approach that was taken for Cam Newton and Andy Dalton should be fine for Griff.

mike already said he was going to do that and try and put Rg3 in a situation. To win. To build around his skill sets.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:48 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I am a lil late to the party. Anyways I think Griffin should start right away. I am assuming of course that he will be ready. I also think Shanny should simplify the playbook. Last years rookies benefited from the lockout last year. I think the same approach that was taken for Cam Newton and Andy Dalton should be fine for Griff.

mike already said he was going to do that and try and put Rg3 in a situation. To win. To build around his skill sets.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:56 pm

now that's good to hear

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Fri May 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Like SkinsJock in the start of this thread...I was thinking that they probably would wait until he is ready to start.

I hope it all works out fine for him. Way to much has been invested. He has to start.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat May 19, 2012 11:48 am

Kilmer72 wrote:Like SkinsJock in the start of this thread...I was thinking that they probably would wait until he is ready to start.

I hope it all works out fine for him. Way to much has been invested. He has to start.

^^ we're all on the same page here

the kid is not going in there unless he's ready - IMO he's been getting ready to be a starting NFL QB for years

how good does he have to be, to be a better QB than we've had here for many years

he's already showing both on the field and off that he's a very special person and athlete

there is no doubt that the coaches and training staff will do everything to make sure the offensive scheme and physical preparation is for RGIII to be both the starter and the future great Redskins QB

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat May 19, 2012 2:31 pm

RG3 Went Back into Game After Tearing his ACL at Baylor...and Threw 3 TDs

We all know RG3 tore his ACL in a game vs Northwestern State in 2009. What I wasn't aware of was that RG3 went back into the game the next series.

Griffin got hurt when he was tackled hard by Gary Riggs and stopped for no gain on fourth-and-2 to end the game's opening drive. The standout sophomore remained on the ground for several minutes while Baylor students chanted his name, then walked gingerly to the sideline.

But Griffin, with his knee and lower right leg heavily wrapped, didn't missed a snap before halftime. Griffin then led Baylor to four touchdowns in an eight-minute span...

http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/5/18/3028 ... nd-threw-4

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