Leverage

[1niksder]

He wouldn't have been a hit has hard as the one they took when they cut him. The restructure of this year's base alone would have made the hit they took $6M+ lighter

They would simply be moving the bulk of the option money back a year or two for cap purposes and paying two years base salary upfront, the Colts were are hurting for cap space now but will be OK next season and the cap will jump to around $150M in 2015. Releasing Manning after next season as a post June 1st cut would have pushed the remaining pro-rated money left into 2015.

Fair enough on this year. But they blow and they are about to have a rookie QB. Why not get him off the books now? If they don't, the past cap will have to count at some point and if they pay him tens of millions more that will have to hit the cap at some point too. And what are they going to do with Peyton AND Luck sitting on the bench?

That cap hit is what Peyton would have had for leverage had he talked to them... They needed the cap space and he had cash coming that hadn't hit the books yet. Look at all the deals that are being signed. Teams are doing deals that end or blow up in two years. Reworking his deal would have allowed Peyton to get the same time of deal which would have moved the big cap hit to a year that wouldn't hurt the Colts current attempt to reload.

I made the same point to Deadskins when he wanted to sign Peyton and Griffin, we have to pick one direction not two. And we're better then the Colts. Peyton is win now, Luck is win in 2-3 years. If it's win now, they don't have enough talent and they are about to use the #1 pick not getting better (regarding win now). If it's win later, they are about to spend tens of millions more on a 35 year old QB that will have to hit the cap at some point.

Never could come up with a good reason to come here. IN FACT when this discussion came up and I was asked why Manning should restructure my answer was so ESPN would stop linking him to the Redskins. The attorney started saying I don't no what I'm talking about ( I think he looks in a mirror when typing). Selecting Luck is one thing. Peyton restructuring is another. The Colts took a huge cap hit while trying to rebuild, meaning they'll get Luck and not much more. Peyton would have gotten paid and free up space for moves this year.

If to your point the Colts wanted to spread out the cap hit, it seems they'd want to sign Peyton to a small contract to spread out the hit. They wouldn't give him the tens of millions he's losing to spread it out when he's 35 and there just aren't that many years to spread.

Look at Josh Morgan deal... 5 years (for cap purposes only) $12M with $7M guaranteed, The seven million will be spread over 5 years but the deal will void in two meaning The take the big cap it in three years while only using $1.4M in space the first two years, generally it would have been a $3.5M cap hit both years.

I do agree he should have talked to the Colts. Not saying he did or didn't, don't know. But I don't see why the Colts wouldn't say we love you babe, but bye bye. It's the reality of where the Colts are now.

I was simply saying it couldn't hurt for him to talk to them, but then the man in the mirror popped in with his google machine and Condon's bio. The Colts were going to say bye bye anyway... they could have been better off waiting a year or two.

[The Hogster]

Tom Condon knows what he's doing. You don't. It will make sense to you when Peyton signs somewhere. It's unbelievable to me that you keep this losing argument going.

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton didn't want to go back to Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that the Colts saw this as the perfect opportunity to divorce because they have the #1 pick the year that the so-called best QB in a generation is available?

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton wants to win another ring and probably couldn't do that in Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that given all of these circumstances, restructuring to take less money AND forfeit Free Agency would be dumb?

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton knew that he could force the Colts to release him--making him one of the most coveted Free Agents in history, or as you call it "unemployment."

Apparently not. So sit down and wait for his contract. Then I can neatly quote you and show you step by step why you don't know what the heck you're talking about. You want people at THN to believe you do so badly that you're ranting about what Tom Condon should have done. Pound for pound, Condon is legitimately a Top 3-5 NFL agent of All Time. But, you know something that he doesn't?? But, I'm the egomaniac?

[1niksder]

Tom Condon knows what he's doing. You don't. It will make sense to you when Peyton signs somewhere. It's unbelievable to me that you keep this losing argument going.

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton didn't want to go back to Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that the Colts saw this as the perfect opportunity to divorce because they have the #1 pick the year that the so-called best QB in a generation is available?

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton wants to win another ring and probably couldn't do that in Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that given all of these circumstances, restructuring to take less money AND forfeit Free Agency would be dumb?

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton knew that he could force the Colts to release him--making him one of the most coveted Free Agents in history, or as you call it "unemployment."

Has it every occurred to you that not having a team at this time means he's unemployed. Why has the "most coveted free agent in history" is not so coveted or he wouldn't STILL be a free agent, and that 14 other free agents that play the same position he does were as looking for work and have already found their names on new contracts. That's more than half the teams that were looking for QBs less than a week ago.

Apparently not. So sit down and wait for his contract. Then I can neatly quote you and show you step by step why you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

Maybe you don't realize I was discussing this with someone that actually knows hao to hold a conversation. Maybe you should STFU unless you have something to add to what we are talking about. I told you a long time ago time will tell.

You want people at THN to believe you do so badly that you're ranting about what Tom Condon should have done. Pound for pound, Condon is legitimately a Top 3-5 NFL agent of All Time. But, you know something that he doesn't?? But, I'm the egomaniac?

I post my opinion and people can believe what the want, and I hope they form their own thoughts, you on the other hand seems to be the one that cares what people think all the time and claiming to be this that and the other thing. You should try to have your own opinion and live with it. Condon hasn't said what he thinks about this but you seem to think you know what he is doing.

[KazooSkinsFan]

I was simply saying it couldn't hurt for him to talk to them, but then the man in the mirror popped in

Understood, and that's why I stayed out of the discussion other then lawyer annoying expeditions. But on Peyton, the part I had a hard time seeing was the specific point that he could get all the money in his current contract if he restructured. I understand your point on the Colts not having much cap left this year by cutting him, but if I were them since they aren't good I'd like Peyton out of the way with Luck coming in. I'd prefer to restructure the contracts of players who are staying to create some additional cap. I also don't see why Peyton would want to stay with Luck coming in and the Colts sucking, but that doesn't contradict the Colt's cap argument.

[Deadskins]

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton didn't want to go back to Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that everyone involved in this discussion has never disputed this point, and in fact, several have actually made this point repeatedly, and long before you ever did?

Has it ever occurred to you that given all of these circumstances, restructuring to take less money AND forfeit Free Agency would be dumb?

Has it ever occurred to you that no one has ever made the point (except you), that by restructuring, Peyton would be taking less money?

"Apparently not. So sit down and wait for his contract." Take your own advice.

Pound for pound, Condon is legitimately a Top 3-5 NFL agent of All Time. But, you know something that he doesn't?? But, I'm the egomaniac?

Well, when this whole debate began, you said:

Tom Condon is one of the best agents in NFL History. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Condon

He knows what he's doing. The best way to call his bluff is to let the date approach and force Irsay's hand.

and

How do you know that Tom Condon has not talked to the Colts about the contract? You don't.

and

Tom Condon and Peyton (like everyone else) likely has the indication that the Colts will release Peyton. They are comfortable with that option..

and

Tom Condon is one of the best at this, and he's doing exactly what I've said he should in this thread---NOTHING. He owes the Colts no favors. He represents Peyton, not the Colts, not the fans, not you, not me. His client is not getting $28M from the Colts because the Colts are moving on

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The team doesn't have leverage right now. Maybe you have your own definition of what leverage is, but let's be clear. The Colts have 2 options. Pay him. Or cut him.

You're suggesting that Peyton give them a third option---pay him less and keep him around. That would be awesome for the Colts and borderline retarded for Peyton. That option would be precisely what the Colts want. But they can't have that unless Peyton does them that favor.

You think he should, I think Condon is spot on by not doing that. The Colts are trying to win the PR battle while simultaneously making not-so-subtle plans to move on from Peyton. Peyton is standing firm as he should. Right now he's under contract. Period. The Colts are not going to pay him --the classiest thing would be for Irsay to say something to the effect of "Peyton Manning has singlehandedly brought this franchise from obscurity to perenial relevance. Unfortunately, his injury made this tough decision one that we had to make. Peyton Manning will always be a Colt and we wish him the best. As of right now, the Colts have to prepare for success whether Peyton is our QB or not."

The classy thing would be to just release him now rather than on March 7th. But no. You want Peyton (whose had his throat cut open 3-4 times to repair a spine for the TEAM) to give them yet another concession by taking an incentive based deal to remain with a team that's MOVING ON. That's like asking your wife of 13 years to stick around while you play around with a college girl. Sure, that would be a win win, but only for one party.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of being a zealous advocate for your client. Condon is doing the smart thing. He's acting in Peyton's best interest. You're doing what you do best--judge with limited info. Condon's successful at what he does.

In the early discussions, it was actually you who wasn't considering that Peyton (under the advice of Archie, no doubt) may have instructed Condon not to deal with the Colts, because he wanted out of Indy. Your focus in every one of the quotes above was that Condon was making his decisions based on the fact that the Colts were going to sever ties with Peyton, not that Peyton wanted out. You've changed your tune over the past couple of weeks as circumstances have come out that showed your original thinking to be wrong. You just won't admit that others who said so at the time may have had insight to the situation that you hadn't considered. Typical.

[The Hogster]

Deadskins just stop. Not only are you uninformed, but you're taking up too much space to say absolutely nothing.

1niksder is wrong on this one--again, but he actually knows a bit more than you, which is why it perplexes me that he's jumping off this cliff.

[Deadskins]

The proof is in the posts.
I warned you that you'd be embarrassed by me going back and posting your quotes, but your response was to say, "Here's the shovel, go for it."

[KazooSkinsFan]

Deadskins just stop. Not only are you uninformed, but you're taking up too much space to say absolutely nothing.

1niksder is wrong on this one--again, but he actually knows a bit more than you, which is why it perplexes me that he's jumping off this cliff.

It would be ironic, wouldn't Hogster if Nik ends up being wrong but conducted himself with dignity and someone else accomplished the reverse?

[1niksder]

Deadskins just stop. Not only are you uninformed, but you're taking up too much space to say absolutely nothing.

1niksder is wrong on this one--again, but he actually knows a bit more than you, which is why it perplexes me that he's jumping off this cliff.

It would be ironic, wouldn't Hogster if Nik ends up being wrong but conducted himself with dignity and someone else accomplished the reverse?

Nope I always carry myself this way and he will be a jerk regardless... at least that was what he said he is on and of the boards. I have another name for what he is but....

[The Hogster]

Deadskins just stop. Not only are you uninformed, but you're taking up too much space to say absolutely nothing.

1niksder is wrong on this one--again, but he actually knows a bit more than you, which is why it perplexes me that he's jumping off this cliff.

It would be ironic, wouldn't Hogster if Nik ends up being wrong but conducted himself with dignity and someone else accomplished the reverse?

What is dignified about ranting and raving in extensive soliloquies?

[The Hogster]

Has it ever occurred to you that Peyton didn't want to go back to Indy?

Has it ever occurred to you that everyone involved in this discussion has never disputed this point, and in fact, several have actually made this point repeatedly, and long before you ever did?

Has it ever occurred to you that given all of these circumstances, restructuring to take less money AND forfeit Free Agency would be dumb?

Has it ever occurred to you that no one has ever made the point (except you), that by restructuring, Peyton would be taking less money?

"Apparently not. So sit down and wait for his contract." Take your own advice.

Pound for pound, Condon is legitimately a Top 3-5 NFL agent of All Time. But, you know something that he doesn't?? But, I'm the egomaniac?

Well, when this whole debate began, you said:

Tom Condon is one of the best agents in NFL History. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Condon

He knows what he's doing. The best way to call his bluff is to let the date approach and force Irsay's hand.

and

How do you know that Tom Condon has not talked to the Colts about the contract? You don't.

and

Tom Condon and Peyton (like everyone else) likely has the indication that the Colts will release Peyton. They are comfortable with that option..

and

Tom Condon is one of the best at this, and he's doing exactly what I've said he should in this thread---NOTHING. He owes the Colts no favors. He represents Peyton, not the Colts, not the fans, not you, not me. His client is not getting $28M from the Colts because the Colts are moving on

and

The team doesn't have leverage right now. Maybe you have your own definition of what leverage is, but let's be clear. The Colts have 2 options. Pay him. Or cut him.

You're suggesting that Peyton give them a third option---pay him less and keep him around. That would be awesome for the Colts and borderline retarded for Peyton. That option would be precisely what the Colts want. But they can't have that unless Peyton does them that favor.

You think he should, I think Condon is spot on by not doing that. The Colts are trying to win the PR battle while simultaneously making not-so-subtle plans to move on from Peyton. Peyton is standing firm as he should. Right now he's under contract. Period. The Colts are not going to pay him --the classiest thing would be for Irsay to say something to the effect of "Peyton Manning has singlehandedly brought this franchise from obscurity to perenial relevance. Unfortunately, his injury made this tough decision one that we had to make. Peyton Manning will always be a Colt and we wish him the best. As of right now, the Colts have to prepare for success whether Peyton is our QB or not."

The classy thing would be to just release him now rather than on March 7th. But no. You want Peyton (whose had his throat cut open 3-4 times to repair a spine for the TEAM) to give them yet another concession by taking an incentive based deal to remain with a team that's MOVING ON. That's like asking your wife of 13 years to stick around while you play around with a college girl. Sure, that would be a win win, but only for one party.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of being a zealous advocate for your client. Condon is doing the smart thing. He's acting in Peyton's best interest. You're doing what you do best--judge with limited info. Condon's successful at what he does.

In the early discussions, it was actually you who wasn't considering that Peyton (under the advice of Archie, no doubt) may have instructed Condon not to deal with the Colts, because he wanted out of Indy. Your focus in every one of the quotes above was that Condon was making his decisions based on the fact that the Colts were going to sever ties with Peyton, not that Peyton wanted out. You've changed your tune over the past couple of weeks as circumstances have come out that showed your original thinking to be wrong. You just won't admit that others who said so at the time may have had insight to the situation that you hadn't considered. Typical.

This is a flat lie. Either that or you can't read. I never said that Peyton didn't want out of Indy. I said the opposite. In fact, I challenged anyone to give a good reason for why he would even want to stay being that (i) the team had been blown up and (ii) Andrew Luck is likely the new face of the franchise.

I said that Condon had no good reason to talk restructuring with the Colts. It wouldn't make any sense for Peyton or the Colts. The only person it made sense to was 1niksder. In a prior post, you said something else dumb as rocks. You suggested that Peyton could have restructured without taking less money. Given the Colts cap situation, how the hell do you think he could have done that? Convert the $28M bonus to a guarantee?? Salary?? That would create an even bigger cap liability. Then you have to sign Luck. Dude, just stop.

I'll leave my response to you here, because you have only half of an understanding of what 1niksder and I are debating, and quite frankly, you're nothing more than a distraction. You're actually making points for me--I'm sure you don't mean to.

[Deadskins]

You suggested that Peyton could have restructured without taking less money. Given the Colts cap situation, how the hell do you think he could have done that? Convert the $28M bonus to a guarantee?? Salary?? That would create an even bigger cap liability. Then you have to sign Luck.

Actually 1niksder has twice given you actual dollar figures by which Manning's contract could have been restructured to save the Colts cap space and have him making more money over the life of the contract. Do I need to repost that one too?

And signing rookies is not nearly as cap intensive as it was before the new CBA. But you knew that, right?

[KazooSkinsFan]

Deadskins just stop. Not only are you uninformed, but you're taking up too much space to say absolutely nothing.

1niksder is wrong on this one--again, but he actually knows a bit more than you, which is why it perplexes me that he's jumping off this cliff.

It would be ironic, wouldn't Hogster if Nik ends up being wrong but conducted himself with dignity and someone else accomplished the reverse?

What is dignified about ranting and raving in extensive soliloquies?

I like how you say this, then in the next post you lecture Deadskins about not getting point...

[The Hogster]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

[The Hogster]

You suggested that Peyton could have restructured without taking less money. Given the Colts cap situation, how the hell do you think he could have done that? Convert the $28M bonus to a guarantee?? Salary?? That would create an even bigger cap liability. Then you have to sign Luck.

Actually 1niksder has twice given you actual dollar figures by which Manning's contract could have been restructured to save the Colts cap space and have him making more money over the life of the contract. Do I need to repost that one too?

And signing rookies is not nearly as cap intensive as it was before the new CBA. But you knew that, right?

You'd have to be an epic idiot to think the Colts were interested in paying Manning the money owed on his old deal regardless of how you want to restructure it. This is too ridiculous for words.

[1niksder]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

+1

[1niksder]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

+1

I'm not agreeing with the poster, just +1 post more showing some posters have no original thoughts.

I think I heard Peyton just got a new team added in that big field of 3 teams looking to grab the hottest free agent to hit the market. I checked and it was actually another team looking at Alex Smith after Peyton's visit to the 49ers came to light. Looks like Peyton had so much leverage he's giving some to Smith with the 9ers

[The Hogster]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

+1

I'm not agreeing with the poster, just +1 post more showing some posters have no original thoughts.

I think I heard Peyton just got a new team added in that big field of 3 teams looking to grab the hottest free agent to hit the market. I checked and it was actually another team looking at Alex Smith after Peyton's visit to the 49ers came to light. Looks like Peyton had so much leverage he's giving some to Smith with the 9ers

If Peyton signs for anywhere between $15M and $18M per year, you should issue an apology to the Internet for filling it up with this B.S. And, don't dredge up his old contract and cry about restructuring with the Colts when you, I and the whole world know the Colts were not going to pay him what was owed on that deal no matter what. It's impressive watching you contort and squirm around friggin reality dude. Houdini

[DarthMonk]

Eddie Murphy Delirious:

And this is the business to be in if you want some LEVERAGE.

That's why I got in show bussiness, for LEVERAGE.

And it's like that too.

When you do TV-shows, women would be

throwing LEVERAGE at me on the street like frisbee.

"Ed !"

"Thank you ! Appreciate that !"

Too much LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE would be

falling outta my pocket.

Walking out the street, you say:

"Oh, watch your step, that's mine."

DarthMonk

[1niksder]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

+1

I'm not agreeing with the poster, just +1 post more showing some posters have no original thoughts.

I think I heard Peyton just got a new team added in that big field of 3 teams looking to grab the hottest free agent to hit the market. I checked and it was actually another team looking at Alex Smith after Peyton's visit to the 49ers came to light. Looks like Peyton had so much leverage he's giving some to Smith with the 9ers

If Peyton signs for anywhere between $15M and $18M per year, you should issue an apology to the Internet for filling it up with this B.S. And, don't dredge up his old contract and cry about restructuring with the Colts when you, I and the whole world know the Colts were not going to pay him what was owed on that deal no matter what. It's impressive watching you contort and squirm around friggin reality dude. Houdini

Why not bring up his old contract? He had the Colts headed over the cap and didn't want to talk. Again just talking would have had something on the table when talking to other teams (that would have been leverage).

Why are you not mentioning his old contract now anyway? Is it because every QB that I said might sign before the most coveted QB to hit the market has now signed with Flynn going to the Seahawks. Or the fact that you said Ross was ready to throw a bunch of money at him and now Smith is getting ready to get that money simply because Peyton went at the Niners?

Stick to the argument at hand. Wasn't we talking about leverage and the fact he only had his old contract as leverage because on the market he's just looking for a place to land. Forget about there weren't as many place for him to go as you seem to have thought, but wasn't we talking about him TALKING about restructuring something that can now be consider his OLD contract?

Granted this won't end until he actually gets a new contract but won't we have to compare it to the old one?

Wasn't my point he could do better with a restructure that rolled up the $28M into the new deal so he'd still have a option of getting it later? Did I show he could take $14M over the next two years as a signing bonus that would have included whatever part of the $28M not pushed back, meaning he wouldn't lose any money?

Isn't what he walked away from a very point part of this discussion?

He had $7M+ in real cash along with any future money that could have been moved to a signing bonus this year. I said A portion of the $28M (20-25%) + 2012 and 2013 base salaries would be converted to cash payable on signing a new deal. Granted this all started with Peyton being linked to the Skins, but you made it about what was best for Peyton. We"ll forget his old contract when you prove he's getting more than what he left on the table.

After all that's what led to four threads in three different forums...The staff split one off because of the direction that the thread was headed. The staff member split the thread based on a post by another staff member so at a minimum it three threads in three forums.

Why the staff, my position on the staff or what others think about me around here seems to be more on your mind than mine and it shows in your post. I'm who I am and you'll always be you.


You said let's agree to dis-agree but couldn't let it go, you've claimed victory for a week although we won't know what he gave up by not talking to the Colts other than his old contract, nor has he signed a new one. Now you want to take the first part of the equation out.

You are who you are....

The proof is in the post and time will tell.

As far as Condon goes, he is pretty good.... The 49ers offered him a lowball deal because nobody wanted another one of his QBs Alex Smith... he let it be known that Peyton was checked out by SF. Now Smith is headed to see a third team about signing with them. Condon has five teams looking at two of his QBs when before he only had two looking at PM and one low balling Smith. Than again if SF bites Peyton will be down to just those two teams that you say gives him all the leverage.

Show me how we can forget about his old deal and settle this and I may finally understand your thinking

[The Hogster]

Lol. This is epic.

[The Hogster]

1niksder wrote:

Show me how we can forget about his old deal and settle this and I may finally understand your thinking

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that the Colts did not intend to honor his old contract because (i) of his injury and (ii) the fact that they have the #1 pick which = Andrew Luck So, it's not the numbers you should forget about. But, rather the thought that the Colts were going to pay Peyton those numbers--they weren't.

I am going to wait until the actual details come out. But, in the meantime, have someone read this to you. Then sit down.

But the parameters apparently have been set — as Mike Klis of the Denver Post recently reported, the new contract must be in the range of the five-year, $90 million deal that Manning signed in August with the Colts. (La Canfora pegs the annual value in the range of $20 million annually.)

The Colts blew their team up from Front Office to Turf. They don't stand a chance for the next few years. Manning is 36. He had leverage because he forced his release, and now has the ability to choose a team he can actually win with while getting paid more than the Colts would have been willing to pay him to back up / mentor Andrew Luck. Dude get a clue.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/peyton-takes-charge-of-his-search-for-a-new-team/

[The Hogster]

Peyton Manning Signs 5 Year $96M Contract With Broncos

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-20/manning-signs-5-year-96-million-broncos-deal-espn-says-1-.html

Contract will pay Peyton $18M in 2012.

That's how LEVERAGE works in the sports business. Peyton gets paid, gets a chance to win, doesn't have to beat Eli twice a year, and Tom Condon walks away with what could amount to a $2.88M agent commission. You're welcome.

Hey 1niksder. Now that this is official, I will gladly embarrass you with your own quotes. But, for now, start with this appetizer.

Roasted Crow With Seaweed Salad.



Another thread shall live in infamy.

[1niksder]

Peyton Manning Signs 5 Year $96M Contract With Broncos

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-20/manning-signs-5-year-96-million-broncos-deal-espn-says-1-.html

Contract will pay Peyton $18M in 2012.

That's how LEVERAGE works in the sports business. Peyton gets paid, gets a chance to win, doesn't have to beat Eli twice a year, and Tom Condon walks away with what could amount to a $2.88M agent commission. You're welcome.

Hey 1niksder. Now that this is official, I will gladly embarrass you with your own quotes. But, for now, start with this appetizer.

Roasted Crow With Seaweed Salad. Another thread shall live in infamy.

I like my crow straight off the grill....

Before I start eating it I'd like to see the real money.

$18M for what? Playing time? What's the bonus money?

My example gave him closer to $20M upfront and about $950K the first year. We don't know if what the $18M breaks down too. Might be $1M per game that he plays, might be based on performance could be anything.

Either way $18M is more than I said he'd get if that's what he'll get

But.....

There’s no mention of guaranteed money, which makes it impossible for now to determine the real value of the deal. And, let’s face it, if there was significant guaranteed money in the deal, whoever leaked the info to Schefter would have included that fact.

In the end, it could be another one-year “prove it” deal, with a modest base salary, incentives based on playing time or other factors, and a mammoth balloon payment due in 2013. The deal also could have a ridiculously high fifth-year base salary that he’ll never earn.

Eventually, the true numbers will come out. For now, it’s safe to say the Broncos ultimately won’t be paying Peyton $96 million over five years.

Link

I'll wait on the details

[The Hogster]

Let the contortion begin. Now you will attack the $96M contract you previously said he couldn't get in a desperate attempt to support your fantasy contract that never was going to happen in real life--even if they wanted it to. SMH