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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:28 pm
by VetSkinsFan
You could stop reading the drivel and wait for Sunday nite @ 8pm...
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:39 pm
by CanesSkins26
Making his weekly appeareance on ESPN 980's Sports Fix, Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb expressed support for Albert Haynesworth.
The quarterback told the radio show's host Kevin Sheehan and Thom Loverro, that on-going Haynesworth drama, "hasn't become a distraction." He added that, "The one thing that I try to do -- as well as the rest of the guys -- is not let it affect the locker room. Albert is a guy that’s one of our brothers in the locker room and we want to protect him and make sure that he’s taken care of and he’s fine."
McNabb said that he sees Haynesworth working hard to learn his role in the Redskins' defense, and that the big fella is too valuable to lose.
"We can’t win without him," McNabb said. "He plays a major part on our defense, and everyone knows that."
McNabb called how things have played out between Haynesworth and coach Mike Shanahan, "unfortunate," but he believes Haynesworth will remain a Redskin.
When asked about the ESPN report that the Redskins and Titans have renewed trade talks involving Haynesworth, McNabb said, "I don’t know what Chris Mortensen or anybody in the organization [has said]. But as a player, you would want Albert to be here."
McNabb also said that he will start Sunday night in the season opener agianst the Cowboys, and that although the Redskins have yet to give him a contract extension, he expects things to be taken care of and for him to remain in Washington beyond this season. For now, however, his only concern is the Dallas Cowboys.
http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-skins/2010/09/mcnabb-redskins-need-haynesworth-1369.html
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:44 pm
by VetSkinsFan
CanesSkins26 wrote:Making his weekly appeareance on ESPN 980's Sports Fix, Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb expressed support for Albert Haynesworth.
The quarterback told the radio show's host Kevin Sheehan and Thom Loverro, that on-going Haynesworth drama, "hasn't become a distraction." He added that, "The one thing that I try to do -- as well as the rest of the guys -- is not let it affect the locker room. Albert is a guy that’s one of our brothers in the locker room and we want to protect him and make sure that he’s taken care of and he’s fine."
McNabb said that he sees Haynesworth working hard to learn his role in the Redskins' defense, and that the big fella is too valuable to lose.
"We can’t win without him," McNabb said. "He plays a major part on our defense, and everyone knows that."
McNabb called how things have played out between Haynesworth and coach Mike Shanahan, "unfortunate," but he believes Haynesworth will remain a Redskin.
When asked about the ESPN report that the Redskins and Titans have renewed trade talks involving Haynesworth, McNabb said, "I don’t know what Chris Mortensen or anybody in the organization [has said]. But as a player, you would want Albert to be here."
McNabb also said that he will start Sunday night in the season opener agianst the Cowboys, and that although the Redskins have yet to give him a contract extension, he expects things to be taken care of and for him to remain in Washington beyond this season. For now, however, his only concern is the Dallas Cowboys.
http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-skins/2010/09/mcnabb-redskins-need-haynesworth-1369.html
I expect nothing less from McNabb. He's had a few blunderous quotes in his career, but 99.% of the time, he's been what his team needs. The sound of reason and unity. And I expect nothing less from him now that he's in B&G!
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:09 pm
by skinsr4real
we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:38 pm
by VetSkinsFan
skinsr4real wrote:we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
He played the whole game vs the Cards... appears he's in decent shape to me.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:43 pm
by yupchagee
VetSkinsFan wrote:skinsr4real wrote:we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
He played the whole game vs the Cards... appears he's in decent shape to me.
He was on the field the whole game. I'm not sure you can call what he did on most plays "playing".
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:47 pm
by VetSkinsFan
deleted b/c it's not worth it
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:52 pm
by 1niksder
yupchagee wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:skinsr4real wrote:we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
He played the whole game vs the Cards... appears he's in decent shape to me.
He was on the field the whole game. I'm not sure you can call what he did on most plays "playing".[/quote
He played the whole game, he played mind games for 2 and a half quarters
The latest rumor makes a lot of sense....
When you make up a rumor it's just like lying...
Every lie almost always requires another lie, same with these rumors.
Mort has reported this, so as Adam S (MS's boy) along with PFT, that should give it some weight.
They all picked up from the guy that broke the story.... NFLN's JLC via twitter
Both teams are denying it, so it'll fall through because Shanny will be asking too much.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:59 pm
by Irn-Bru
This is being reported by sources, which means that it's suitable for discussion in HogWash. (I love saying that
)
Moving there . . .
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:08 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Deadskins wrote:Hmm, there was another thread where people mocked me because I said Tennesse was a possible trading partner for AH. Go figure.
What are they actually offering? Are they saying they'll take him for free or actually providing some value? Value less an attitude discount is reasonable. They'll take him off our hands for virtually nothing isn't a trade.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:08 pm
by skinsr4real
While I think it's a good move to get rid of this slob, I don't think that's best for the franchise right now - we get more value keeping this guy and hopefully having someone want (OR need) to make a trade for him than we do by trying to trade his out of shape fat rear end right now
I could care less what anyone here thinks about how much help he might be - I'm happy with Haslett and Mike not playing him until they are satisied that he's ready to be able to contribute and to play him as often as they need him NOT when and how he thinks he should be used
Like I said - this guy's not helping much, on or off the field UNTIL we trade him for a player (or players) that want to be a part of what is happening here
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:11 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
skinsr4real wrote:While I think it's a good move to get rid of this slob, I don't think that's best for the franchise right now - we get more value keeping this guy and hopefully having someone want (OR need) to make a trade for him than we do by trying to trade his out of shape fat rear end right now
If we can get a real trade and get actual value in return I'm all for it. But I agree with you I wouldn't "trade" him for virtually nothing just to get rid of him. I don't think he really hurts team chemistry either because he's so extreme. The one benefit of his Manny Ramirez syndrome is it really doesn't put anyone on the spot to pick sides because he's so ludicrous.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:16 pm
by cvillehog
I'll believe it when I see it...
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:31 pm
by SkinsJock
cvillehog wrote:I'll believe it when I see it...
I presume you're referring to a possible trade and not my assertion that he has a fat, out of shape, rear end
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:40 pm
by cvillehog
SkinsJock wrote:cvillehog wrote:I'll believe it when I see it...
I presume you're referring to a possible trade and not my assertion that he has a fat, out of shape, rear end
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:54 pm
by SnyderSucks
VetSkinsFan wrote:skinsr4real wrote:we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
He played the whole game vs the Cards... appears he's in decent shape to me.
This whole situation just brings back memories of Arrington. Supremely talented guy who doesn't want to play within the system when a new coach arrives and winds up being made an example. Even if he's in shape, there is no evidence that he'll play up to his ability or within the scheme. If he plays out of position, we'll see lots of big gains through the hole he is responsible for covering.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:19 pm
by 1niksder
1niksder wrote:The latest rumor makes a lot of sense....
When you make up a rumor it's just like lying...
Every lie almost always requires another lie, same with these rumors.
Mort has reported this, so as Adam S (MS's boy) along with PFT, that should give it some weight.
They all picked up from the guy that broke the story.... NFLN's JLC via twitter
Both teams are denying it, so it'll fall through because Shanny will be asking too much.
I was close.....
Schefter said on Sports Center that nothing to the trade rumors, that Titans are intrested in AH, but Redskins not willing to trade AH for what they have offered.
The explanation is that it happened over the weekend, Titans called and the Skins wanted more than the Titans were offering.
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:38 pm
by The Hogster
Who do we hate more, Fat Albert or The Cowboys? I don't know about everyone else, but it's easily the Cowboys for me.
Andre Gurode is the only person who wins in this Haynesworth circus.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:58 am
by RayNAustin
Since he's already been paid a small fortune, unless the Skins get decent value for him in a trade, it would be counter productive to just unload him at this stage.
Right now, I don't see anyone dominating up front, so whether or not you use Albert part time or full time, there is no one else there that do what he can do.
It's pretty common knowledge that he CAN BE a dominating force when he wants to be ... so .. I'd get whatever out of him possible this year, so long as he is not causing an issue in the locker room .. and so far ... it seems that his teammates have been mildly supportive of him, while still acknowledging the issues the coaches have with him.
Shanahan has made his point ... he's in charge .. and no one doubts that. It would be foolish, and not in the best interests of the team to continue stressing the point by making Albert inactive for the Cowgirls game.
He should be put out there ... if he isn't performing ... THEN yank him ... but don't continue the who's #@$ is bigger contest to the detriment of the team. That kind of arrogance can also backfire and cause doubt in the locker room as to the commitment to win.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:04 pm
by langleyparkjoe
SnyderSucks wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:skinsr4real wrote:we are very lucky to have this guy leading this team and running the offense this year - everyone in the NFL, I believe, knows what to expect from Donovan - on the other hand, I'm not sure that anyone in the NFL truly respects this fat slob that is not even honest with himself let alone the players and coaches
I really don't care how it plays out with this guy - he's a fat out of shape slob - we aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without Fat Al, so sit him down until he gets his fat rear end in shape so that he can contribute on the field AND we can ship his butt to anyone stupid enough to want an out of shape defensive lineman
He played the whole game vs the Cards... appears he's in decent shape to me.
This whole situation just brings back memories of Arrington. Supremely talented guy who doesn't want to play within the system when a new coach arrives and winds up being made an example. Even if he's in shape, there is no evidence that he'll play up to his ability or within the scheme. If he plays out of position, we'll see lots of big gains through the hole he is responsible for covering.
I don't think LA is a good example bruh. They didn't ask LA to change his position, they just wanted him not to wander from it. LA ALWAYS worked hard and definitely always played hard which is something FatBoy doesn't want to do. Getting tossed around by 2nd/3rd string doesn't look good when your a starter. Everyone can say what they want and try to dog Shanahan but I don't want Fatboy in the game if he's going to deliberately blow our chance to beat the cows. If it was another team, whatever man, but not this game.. heck no.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:05 pm
by RayNAustin
KazooSkinsFan wrote:skinsr4real wrote:While I think it's a good move to get rid of this slob, I don't think that's best for the franchise right now - we get more value keeping this guy and hopefully having someone want (OR need) to make a trade for him than we do by trying to trade his out of shape fat rear end right now
If we can get a real trade and get actual value in return I'm all for it. But I agree with you I wouldn't "trade" him for virtually nothing just to get rid of him. I don't think he really hurts team chemistry either because he's so extreme. The one benefit of his Manny Ramirez syndrome is it really doesn't put anyone on the spot to pick sides because he's so ludicrous.
I think ... based on comments from some of his teammates ... they have the right attitude about Albert .... they know what he CAN do ... so they are ignoring all of the BS, maintaining the attitude that he'll be fine at game time.
And I think this team in general have displayed a very mature stance overall ... and I think the coaching staff ought to take a play from their playbook in that regard.
Put him out there ... let him either dominate as he certainly can do, or yank him if he doesn't. But don't do the Cowboys any favors just to prove a point that has already been established.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:21 pm
by langleyparkjoe
The Hogster wrote:Who do we hate more, Fat Albert or The Cowboys?
In comparison, Fatboy is my best friend in the universe.. does that answer your question?
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:39 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
langleyparkjoe wrote:I don't think LA is a good example bruh. They didn't ask LA to change his position, they just wanted him not to wander from it. LA ALWAYS worked hard and definitely always played hard which is something FatBoy doesn't want to do. Getting tossed around by 2nd/3rd string doesn't look good when your a starter. Everyone can say what they want and try to dog Shanahan but I don't want Fatboy in the game if he's going to deliberately blow our chance to beat the cows. If it was another team, whatever man, but not this game.. heck no.
I agree, they are extremely different. Arrington's issues were being out of position and doing stupid things to hurt the team like late hits. But he busted his butt in practice. Totally different then AH
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:50 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Mike is pissed about all of this, you could hear it in his interview today. I hope he locks the media out, this crap is ridiculous.
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:22 pm
by SkinsJock
when asked about what McNabb said, Bruce Allen replied "well we cannot win without any of our players playing their best" - so basically saying the statement "we cannot win without him" is true of anyone on the team gotta love it
Allen pointed out that the game would not be won OR lost by one player not playing but by all the players playing their best together
Fat Al is just another player and if he's on the field he will be playing very hard or he will not be on the field = If he's not playing it's because the coaches do not think he can help the defense
I love the way
I think Haslett and Shanahan are handling this fat tub of lard - I do not think that the 'reporting' is very close to what is actually happening