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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:07 pm
by Cappster
The more I read about this deal, the more optimistic I get. After watching some film on NFL network, he really does make a big difference on the D-line. Fletcher should have a monster year as should our secondary. I just hope he stays in shape and doesn't get hurt.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:52 pm
by tcwest10
Cappster wrote:The more I read about this deal, the more optimistic I get. After watching some film on NFL network, he really does make a big difference on the D-line. Fletcher should have a monster year as should our secondary. I just hope he stays in shape and doesn't get hurt.


What he said...plus, (as I've already written, but am too excited to stop now) we had a Top 5 defense last year, and just got markedly better. Everybody up front will improve with the double teams drawn by Fat Albert, and the secondary will be able to play 5 to ten yards off the receiver witht he extra time. D.Hall hated man-to-man anyway.
Right now, zone coverage is more than enough in our division. What's the scariest development in our scheduled opponents this year? KWII?
Oh, Lord. We are in good shape on that side of the ball.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:14 am
by ChocolateMilk
if he does a good job like he has the past 2 years, i'll be happy, and i'll totally take back all that i say.. but i just can not help but feel that he's not going to be the same guy. Hes got his pay check, hes happy. I hope im wrong tho

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:36 am
by SkinsFreak
Listen, I can understand the concerns and the feeling that Snyder just wanted to make a big splash, which I disagree with. Just about every half-intelligent Skins fans and EVERY expert analyst pointed to the interior of the d-line as a weakness and an area that needed to be addressed. They've done that. If we didn't really have a need for a DT, then I'd agree this move was just about making a splash by hooking the biggest fish in free agency. But DT WAS a major need, and our whole defense just got significantly better.

Point being, they're not just signing people to sign people. They're filling holes by addressing specific needs. Hall was the top priority and they got that done first. D-line was next and they took care of that, in a major way, I might add. O-line is also in need of an upgrade and getting Dockery was huge. He's good, knows the system, is a lot younger and is well liked by the team and the coaches.

I believe Thomas will get the start at RG, and Rinehart, a former 3rd rounder from last year, will get a chance step up. Buges did say the light finally came on late last year and Zorn recently said he'll get worked in. That leaves RT and LB and both can be addressed in the draft.

I'm pulling for AH. I liked his attitude and what he had to say at his presser yesterday. He will make a huge difference.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:34 am
by PulpExposure
SkinsFreak wrote:Listen, I can understand the concerns and the feeling that Snyder just wanted to make a big splash, which I disagree with. Just about every half-intelligent Skins fans and EVERY expert analyst pointed to the interior of the d-line as a weakness and an area that needed to be addressed. They've done that. If we didn't really have a need for a DT, then I'd agree this move was just about making a splash by hooking the biggest fish in free agency. But DT WAS a major need, and our whole defense just got significantly better.

Point being, they're not just signing people to sign people. They're filling holes by addressing specific needs. Hall was the top priority and they got that done first. D-line was next and they took care of that, in a major way, I might add. O-line is also in need of an upgrade and getting Dockery was huge. He's good, knows the system, is a lot younger and is well liked by the team and the coaches.


Yeah, the Redskins FA signings are different than before; no older, past-their-prime vets. The Skins are signing younger guys...

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:38 pm
by chiefhog44
Man, that's a lot of money to spend. I hope it works out. Could be nasty

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:54 pm
by Hoss
This signing addressed a major flaw with our defense in that we never got any push up the middle. His presence on defense will improve every other aspect of our D and will single-handily improve our defense from a top 4. (shivers)

With Hall and Doc signed, I'm all aquiver! :D

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:36 pm
by Cappster
This is a little breakdown of what haynesworth does on the field.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f04651

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:47 pm
by Countertrey
Who's Haynesworth?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:53 pm
by Cappster
Countertrey wrote:Who's Haynesworth?


He is a big guy you know about 340lbs worth 100 million.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:08 pm
by Deadskins
KazooSkinsFan wrote:in the 70s when I was a Lions fan...

Fair weather fan! :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:57 pm
by Countertrey
Deadskins wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:in the 70s when I was a Lions fan...

Fair weather fan! :lol:


Well... actually, the weather's pretty crappy in Detroit. Now, if he'd been a Bolt's fan in the '70's...

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:13 pm
by yupchagee
Countertrey wrote:Who's Haynesworth?



Not who, what. We now have the answer to "What is a haynes worth?" The answer is $100M.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:31 am
by SkinsFreak
Blache: Defense Will 'Adjust' To Fit Haynesworth
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
Posted: March 2, 2009


Defensive coordinator Greg Blache spoke with reporters in a media session following the Redskins’ signing of Albert Haynesworth:

Q: What will Albert Haynesworth bring to the defense?

A: “During the course of a ball game, there are usually four or five plays that usually decide the game. So in 10 plays in the football game, the difference is a snap. It’s an inch. I just think that he will give us that difference in pass rush, that difference between a pressure and a sack, that difference between a tackle for a loss.

“I think that he will help impact those four or five plays during the ball game that--usually when you come in on Monday morning you say, ‘Oh, four or five plays [cost the team the game].’ I think he will be the difference on some of those plays, so you can come in a lot more Monday mornings and feel good about yourself and feel good about your defense, as opposed to in the past.

“I think he is a very dynamic player. I think he is that type of guy that impacts the game.

“Years ago, when I was in Green Bay we signed Reggie White and everybody made the same noise, ‘How can you pay millions of dollars to a defensive tackle?’ Back then, market value was what it was and Reggie White went on to prove all the naysayers wrong. He continued to be the great player that he was.
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“Albert--he’s from the same university [Tennessee], has the same number [jersey No. 92], and he the same powerfulness as a person. I think he dominates the game in the same way. I see Albert coming in here and impacting our defense and impacting our football team in the same fashion.”

Q: Did you think it was a long shot that Albert would come play here?

A: “Yeah, I thought it would be a long shot because I knew he would be the top guy on everybody’s board. He was the most dominant player available in free agency. I just didn’t know what we would be able to do cap-wise. As [the negotiations] worked through, I didn’t really believe it would happen. I was kind of pleasantly surprised when we were able to make it happen.”

Q: Will you adjust the defense around Albert?

A: “We always try and build our defenses around our players. I’ve always said we don’t try and do Wal-Mart suits. We try and tailor-make our suits. So what we do is when you add a talent to this degree, you adjust the [defense] to fit him. So our schemes will fit him, but also the rest of our guys. It will fit all of our players.

“Right now, I have an idea and a concept of what it will be, but when the draft is done, we will have all the pieces in place. You will know exactly where you want to go with it. At this time, we realize that we have something that we haven’t had before.

“[Haynesworth] is a special player--the likeness that he has to Reggie White. I was in Green Bay when we brought Reggie over in free agency. The same thing [happened]. Everybody made a bunch of noise about how it was too much money for a defensive lineman. [White] came in and he fit in well. He transformed our defense to a very, very good defense and in a couple of years he took them to the Super Bowl.

“Hopefully it won’t take us a couple of years. I just think that he is a very good piece. He is a very good fit to a group that is already pretty darn good. I think that he may be the piece that can help take us over the top.”

Q: Will Albert be effective getting after the quarterback when he is in the game on running downs?

A: “Sure. He has a lot of talent. He is a powerful man. He is about 340 pounds, but he doesn’t look that size because he is so big from top to bottom. Yes, he is a guy that can attack the line of scrimmage and be very, very disruptive playing through the run to get to the quarterback.”

Q: Do you think it will be a seamless transition for Albert?

A: “I think it will be relatively seamless. I don’t see any huge transition because of the quality of the player that he is. What we do, as he alluded to when he spoke [in his introductory press conference], the schemes we run are very, very similar [to the Tennessee Titans, Haynesworth’s former team] and a lot of the things that he did. The difference is the terminology.

“There will be some change because, like I said, we have never had a player of this caliber. We have had Cornelius Griffin who is an excellent football player. I think [Haynesworth] is going to help Cornelius become a better player and more of a force.

“At the same time, we have the other guys that line up around him. If it’s [Kedric] Golston or if it’s Monty [Anthony Montgomery], even the ends--I think it will affect a lot of the things that we are capable of doing up front because [Haynesworth] will dictate so much attention from people.”

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:04 am
by CanesSkins26
SkinsFreak wrote:
Blache: Defense Will 'Adjust' To Fit Haynesworth
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
Posted: March 2, 2009


Defensive coordinator Greg Blache spoke with reporters in a media session following the Redskins’ signing of Albert Haynesworth:

Q: What will Albert Haynesworth bring to the defense?

A: “During the course of a ball game, there are usually four or five plays that usually decide the game. So in 10 plays in the football game, the difference is a snap. It’s an inch. I just think that he will give us that difference in pass rush, that difference between a pressure and a sack, that difference between a tackle for a loss.

“I think that he will help impact those four or five plays during the ball game that--usually when you come in on Monday morning you say, ‘Oh, four or five plays [cost the team the game].’ I think he will be the difference on some of those plays, so you can come in a lot more Monday mornings and feel good about yourself and feel good about your defense, as opposed to in the past.

“I think he is a very dynamic player. I think he is that type of guy that impacts the game.

“Years ago, when I was in Green Bay we signed Reggie White and everybody made the same noise, ‘How can you pay millions of dollars to a defensive tackle?’ Back then, market value was what it was and Reggie White went on to prove all the naysayers wrong. He continued to be the great player that he was.
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“Albert--he’s from the same university [Tennessee], has the same number [jersey No. 92], and he the same powerfulness as a person. I think he dominates the game in the same way. I see Albert coming in here and impacting our defense and impacting our football team in the same fashion.”

Q: Did you think it was a long shot that Albert would come play here?

A: “Yeah, I thought it would be a long shot because I knew he would be the top guy on everybody’s board. He was the most dominant player available in free agency. I just didn’t know what we would be able to do cap-wise. As [the negotiations] worked through, I didn’t really believe it would happen. I was kind of pleasantly surprised when we were able to make it happen.”

Q: Will you adjust the defense around Albert?

A: “We always try and build our defenses around our players. I’ve always said we don’t try and do Wal-Mart suits. We try and tailor-make our suits. So what we do is when you add a talent to this degree, you adjust the [defense] to fit him. So our schemes will fit him, but also the rest of our guys. It will fit all of our players.

“Right now, I have an idea and a concept of what it will be, but when the draft is done, we will have all the pieces in place. You will know exactly where you want to go with it. At this time, we realize that we have something that we haven’t had before.

“[Haynesworth] is a special player--the likeness that he has to Reggie White. I was in Green Bay when we brought Reggie over in free agency. The same thing [happened]. Everybody made a bunch of noise about how it was too much money for a defensive lineman. [White] came in and he fit in well. He transformed our defense to a very, very good defense and in a couple of years he took them to the Super Bowl.

“Hopefully it won’t take us a couple of years. I just think that he is a very good piece. He is a very good fit to a group that is already pretty darn good. I think that he may be the piece that can help take us over the top.”

Q: Will Albert be effective getting after the quarterback when he is in the game on running downs?

A: “Sure. He has a lot of talent. He is a powerful man. He is about 340 pounds, but he doesn’t look that size because he is so big from top to bottom. Yes, he is a guy that can attack the line of scrimmage and be very, very disruptive playing through the run to get to the quarterback.”

Q: Do you think it will be a seamless transition for Albert?

A: “I think it will be relatively seamless. I don’t see any huge transition because of the quality of the player that he is. What we do, as he alluded to when he spoke [in his introductory press conference], the schemes we run are very, very similar [to the Tennessee Titans, Haynesworth’s former team] and a lot of the things that he did. The difference is the terminology.

“There will be some change because, like I said, we have never had a player of this caliber. We have had Cornelius Griffin who is an excellent football player. I think [Haynesworth] is going to help Cornelius become a better player and more of a force.

“At the same time, we have the other guys that line up around him. If it’s [Kedric] Golston or if it’s Monty [Anthony Montgomery], even the ends--I think it will affect a lot of the things that we are capable of doing up front because [Haynesworth] will dictate so much attention from people.”


It's good to see that Blache is being more open minded this season. While the FO deserves a good mount of blame for the Taylor fiasco, Blache is the one that didn't adjust his defense to use Taylor's strengths and left him playing out of position for most of the season.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:07 am
by Chris Luva Luva
CanesSkins26 wrote:It's good to see that Blache is being more open minded this season. While the FO deserves a good mount of blame for the Taylor fiasco, Blache is the one that didn't adjust his defense to use Taylor's strengths and left him playing out of position for most of the season.


He did the best he could with the circumstances forced upon him.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:29 am
by CanesSkins26
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:It's good to see that Blache is being more open minded this season. While the FO deserves a good mount of blame for the Taylor fiasco, Blache is the one that didn't adjust his defense to use Taylor's strengths and left him playing out of position for most of the season.


He did the best he could with the circumstances forced upon him.


No he didn't. He stuck Taylor, who has never played LDE and was a hybrid LB/DE in Miami, at strong side defensive end for most of the season. It wasn't until the last few games that they actually started moving him around some. Where was that during the rest of the season?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:45 am
by Chris Luva Luva
CanesSkins26 wrote:No he didn't. He stuck Taylor, who has never played LDE and was a hybrid LB/DE in Miami, at strong side defensive end for most of the season. It wasn't until the last few games that they actually started moving him around some. Where was that during the rest of the season?


Jason has the physical gifts to be able to overcome that situation, Andre does not. That situation wasn't going to be good regardless. In addition he was playing hurt and we did not have a presecense at DT.

He was added at the end of the season and was forced into a system not catered for him. Gregg just spoke on how they alter the system in the offseason to cater to players, he did not have time to do that for Jason.

I'm not saying that Jason was handled as well as he could have been but to insinuate that Gregg was NOT open minded last season is extreme. He made quite a few adjustments to that defense throughout the season.

Although our sack totals were low, we were ranked 4th overall, you don't make huge changes at the start of a season, you make them now and he was not give that luxury.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:28 pm
by SKINFAN
would've been nice to have JT drop down to LB level every once in a while.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:03 pm
by Irn-Bru
SkinsFreak wrote:Defensive coordinator Greg Blache spoke with reporters in a media session following the Redskins’ signing of Albert Haynesworth:

Q: What will Albert Haynesworth bring to the defense?

A: “During the course of a ball game, there are usually four or five plays that usually decide the game. So in 10 plays in the football game, the difference is a snap. It’s an inch. I just think that he will give us that difference in pass rush, that difference between a pressure and a sack, that difference between a tackle for a loss.

“I think that he will help impact those four or five plays during the ball game that--usually when you come in on Monday morning you say, ‘Oh, four or five plays [cost the team the game].’ I think he will be the difference on some of those plays, so you can come in a lot more Monday mornings and feel good about yourself and feel good about your defense, as opposed to in the past.

“I think he is a very dynamic player. I think he is that type of guy that impacts the game.


I've read this article every year on Redskins.com. No, it didn't always involved Haynesworth, and not even Blache, but it was definitely the same article. ;)

I've never been this cynical this far into the offseason, but I have to say that this year I will truly be waiting for RESULTS before I put too much stock in this team. I'm getting a bad feeling about Zorn's tenure as a coach in DC.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:34 am
by SkinsFreak
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:No he didn't. He stuck Taylor, who has never played LDE and was a hybrid LB/DE in Miami, at strong side defensive end for most of the season. It wasn't until the last few games that they actually started moving him around some. Where was that during the rest of the season?


Jason has the physical gifts to be able to overcome that situation, Andre does not. That situation wasn't going to be good regardless. In addition he was playing hurt and we did not have a presecense at DT.

He was added at the end of the season and was forced into a system not catered for him. Gregg just spoke on how they alter the system in the offseason to cater to players, he did not have time to do that for Jason.

I'm not saying that Jason was handled as well as he could have been but to insinuate that Gregg was NOT open minded last season is extreme. He made quite a few adjustments to that defense throughout the season.

Although our sack totals were low, we were ranked 4th overall, you don't make huge changes at the start of a season, you make them now and he was not give that luxury.


=D> Good stuff, Chris. That's exactly right. Between Carter and Taylor, it was Taylor that was better suited to attempt the position switch. But nevertheless, Blache did move Taylor around towards the end of the season and had said this offseason they were intending to use Taylor differently and more to his strengths. But nevertheless, it's eaiser to adjust a defense to a DT and our entire defense will reap the rewards of that.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:50 am
by SkinsFreak
Irn-Bru wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling about Zorn's tenure as a coach in DC.


I'm actually encouraged. :wink:

I think the owner is getting him valuable components and watching Zorn on TV and in his pressers, he seems more confident. I just hope the team and fans are patient. It takes a while to implement a WCO. Just take a gander at how many seasons it took Holgren and Zorn to do it in Seattle.

One of my best friends is a huge Eagles fan. He hopes the Skins become impatient with Zorn and fire him. Why, you ask? Because he knows how effective a WCO can be once fully implemented. As one of the most knowledgeable football fans I know, even though he hates the Skins as an Eagles fan, he thinks the Skins have a good team and good skill players to run that WCO.

I can understand that the hype in years past has been a letdown. So maybe this year will be different. In the past, there was hype and enthusiasm, which didn't lead to anything. This year, there is concern and skepticism. Maybe we'll have a change of luck and it will lead to something. [-o<

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:04 pm
by CanesSkins26
SkinsFreak wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:No he didn't. He stuck Taylor, who has never played LDE and was a hybrid LB/DE in Miami, at strong side defensive end for most of the season. It wasn't until the last few games that they actually started moving him around some. Where was that during the rest of the season?


Jason has the physical gifts to be able to overcome that situation, Andre does not. That situation wasn't going to be good regardless. In addition he was playing hurt and we did not have a presecense at DT.

He was added at the end of the season and was forced into a system not catered for him. Gregg just spoke on how they alter the system in the offseason to cater to players, he did not have time to do that for Jason.

I'm not saying that Jason was handled as well as he could have been but to insinuate that Gregg was NOT open minded last season is extreme. He made quite a few adjustments to that defense throughout the season.

Although our sack totals were low, we were ranked 4th overall, you don't make huge changes at the start of a season, you make them now and he was not give that luxury.


=D> Good stuff, Chris. That's exactly right. Between Carter and Taylor, it was Taylor that was better suited to attempt the position switch. But nevertheless, Blache did move Taylor around towards the end of the season and had said this offseason they were intending to use Taylor differently and more to his strengths. But nevertheless, it's eaiser to adjust a defense to a DT and our entire defense will reap the rewards of that.


How exactly was Taylor better suited to make the switch? Andre Carter is bigger and stronger than Taylor, and handles the run game better. Taylor is a better pass rushers. So what exactly made Taylor the better option to switch positions?

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:00 am
by tribeofjudah
Haynesworth would have signed with the Bucs if they hadn't cut 5 starters......


Tampa Bay lost the chance at coveted defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth when they cut Derrick Brooks, Haynesworth told a national-radio show.

Haynesworth told The Monty Show on Sporting News Radio that if Brooks was still around, he may have signed with the Bucs instead of the Washington Redskins.

This is the question and answer from the show:
Q: You came from a team that had great success last year, do you think you can have that same success quickly in Washington?
"I really think so, that was the one thing looking into it, because we did have both the same money on the table and everybody knows that one was from Tampa. I looked at the roster of the Redskins and looked at the roster of the Bucs and they cut a lot of starters, I mean they were older guys, but they cut five starters the day before. And then you look at the skins and their team wasn't old, and it's not young, it's in that middle age group like my age type of guys. And you know having all the names we do that are really good players out there, even great players, I definitely thought we had a great shot at making a nice run for the playoffs and hopefully winning our division and getting deep in the playoffs."
Q: If Derrick Brooks had not been cut, would you have gone to Tampa?
"Yeah, it was a few things we looked at. You couldn't really say that, but cutting a bunch of those guys and having a bunch of new starters didn't help the situation any. I felt comfortable with (Bucs coach Raheem Morris), he seemed to be a good person and he's going to be a good coach, and I thought they had a lot of upside. But then they started whacking people, I guess they wanted to have that fresh new look and that's what they went for. It didn't really scare me off, but it didn't really help the situation."


http://bucsscene.theledger.com/default.asp?item=2342614

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:30 am
by Skinsfan55
I hate when the media does this... maybe the person who wrote the article didn't make up the headline but:

Headline:
Tampa Bay lost the chance at coveted defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth when they cut Derrick Brooks

Article:
If Derrick Brooks had not been cut, would you have gone to Tampa?

"You couldn't really say that."