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Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:25 pm**

The Jason Taylor press conference will be held at 6:00PM tonight.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:34 pm**

John Clayton said today on NFL Live that Carter and Taylor gives the Redskins the best pass rushing duo since the days of Charles Mann and Dexter Manly.

:-k

I actually think Taylor is going to light it up this year.

And yes, VetSkins, I KNOW it's all speculation at this point and only time will tell!

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:01 pm**

This is a great move. Without it we'd be writing off the season and I don't see any reason to do that. He's 33 but he's a great player, not just a good one. A #2 is worth it.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:33 pm**

spenser wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:one more thought.

anyone remember ramsey's last game under spurrier? guess who they were playing? guess who almost killed him that night, despite having to match up with samuels.

taylor whipped samuels like a red headed step child and literally almost decapitated patrick. on more than one play. and that was against one of the better left tackles in the game. now he'll be facing less talent on the other side of the line going up against right tackles.

i see nothing but upside.

DUDE, i totally remember that play. JT straight up went Jake the Snake and DDT'd Ramsey! Can you imagine him doing that to Tony Homo , or Eli??? This is a good thing

i'm sure ramsey remembers it too.

and so began the tim hasselbeck era. :puke:

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:55 pm**

Zorn is finding out nice and early what it means to be an NFL head coach. He seems to be taking it in stride and keeping upbeat about the teams situation. Hopefully, in 10 years, we can look back at this situation and see a coaching legend born into the legacy that is the Washington Redskins.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:16 pm**

Cappster wrote:Zorn is finding out nice and early what it means to be an NFL head coach. He seems to be taking it in stride and keeping upbeat about the teams situation. Hopefully, in 10 years, we can look back at this situation and see a coaching legend born into the legacy that is the Washington Redskins.

Forget coaching legand - I'll take competant.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:48 pm**

I approve of this trade but it feels so weird not seeing Taylor in a Dolphins uniform. He's always going to be a Dolphin at heart and for good reason so there seems to be a bit of a disconnect between him becoming a true Skin however long he stays here. It almost seems like Bruce Smith 2.0.

I assume the results will be better and other than what I mentioned, I don't see any negatives.

- Positive community influence.
- Great teammate, not any bad reviews in Miami that I know of.
- Didn't cost too much because I can't see a second rounder coming in and doing what Taylor can right away.
- He's a helluva football player.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:57 pm**

Bruce Smith anyone?

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:03 pm**

1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?

ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it.

throw a bid out there.

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:27 pm**

hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1

Posted: **Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:56 pm**

Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1

sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:44 am**

With news that Jason Taylor is moving from South Beach to the South Lawn, Clinton "Dr. Do Itch Big" Portis is all smiles. But how does this affect the two franchises -- the Washington Redskins and Miami Dolphins -- and the defensive end?

For perhaps the first time, the on-air personalities at the NFL Network are seemingly all in agreement: All three parties involved should be smiling. They discussed the deal that saw the Redskins send a 2009 second-round draft pick and a 2010 sixth-round selection to the Dolphins in exchange for Taylor.

Deion Sanders, NFL Gameday: I love it. I’m happy for Jason Taylor. I wish other owners appeased their players like Miami did with Jason. When a guy has been that vital to your franchise, you should allow him to leave during a rebuilding process.

Washington already had a solid defense and this just adds to it. Both sides are happy, but not the fans in Miami.

And you can’t be surprised by Redskins owner Daniel Snyder making this move. This is who he is. He’s an aggressive owner like Jerry Jones. Those guys live the game. They’re involved intimately.

Steve Mariucci, NFL Gameday: It’s unfortunate that an injury was required for this deal to happen. But Washington benefits by getting a heck of a player. Taylor could still play for several years and he gets a new beginning.

He obviously had some issues with Miami. Him staying only would have lead to a quick retirement. He was thinking of doing other things outside of football. This deal keeps him in the league for a few more years. He gets to go to a good team. A team that’s not rebuilding; a team that has a chance to make the playoffs.

I understand why it took so long to get a deal done. To give away a second-round pick for a guy that stated he may only play one year; you expect a player acquired for a second-rounder to play four to five years on your team. I’m sure the Redskins discussed with him about playing more than one year.

Brian Baldinger, NFL Playbook: I can’t believe there weren’t a line of teams ready to acquire Taylor, especially for the level of compensation. If you’re Washington, you’re getting a proven guy for two years. Washington has never had a pass rusher like this. This is a guy who changes games. He’s instantly the best pass rusher in that division; he’s the most complete. And it’s not like he has to come in and learn a lot.

Miami wanted to unload. The team has been gutted. That’s Bill Parcells’ template. Bottom line, it looks like a great deal for everyone.

Sterling Sharpe, NFL Playbook: Everyone should be happy. Miami is happy, Jason Taylor is happy and Washington is elated. How many rebuilding jobs can Taylor go through?

This is what’s funny to me about the trade. I know an injury forced the deal, but look at a team like Green Bay. I question if the Packers are truly putting themselves in a position to be as good as they can be.

This has Bill Parcells all over it. Knowing Bill, it’s all about image. He doesn’t want to show any signs of weakness.

Rich Eisen, NFL Total Access: This deal should be a win for everyone. Jason Taylor gets a chance for a ring. Miami gets a second-round pick and the Redskins get one of the game's best.

My only question is, if I’m the Dolphins and if you’re going to trade the guy anyway, why not do it earlier? Was there a last straw? Was Miami overreaching before? I’m surprised a team like the Giants, which lost Michael Strahan, didn’t think of making this deal. Miami must have been asking for quite a lot.

I do think it was a class move that Taylor didn’t try to renegotiate his deal. A lot of guys would try to squeeze a couple more million out of their new team.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story;jse ... nfirm=true

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:23 am**

I think there's another advantage to Taylor's acquisition. It allows or affords the defensive coaches and trainers the opportunity to take it slow with Erasmus James, and not push or rush him to get back in there, the mistake made in Minnesota. He'll now have time to fully recover.

Even though they initially intended to take it slow with James, and even if Daniels didn't get hurt, I could see them pushing James a bit to see what they have with him. And if they hadn't signed Taylor after Daniels injury, I could see them pushing James a bit more.

If James is not rushed and gets a chance to fully recover, get healthy and in playing shape, I think we're all hoping he can find his game again, and hopefully Palermo can pull it out of him. Signing Taylor and knowing he can start opposite of Carter, ensures James the chance to become healthy without a push.

Also, we got James for a "conditional" 7th rounder. I don't remember the parameters of the deal, but was that "condition" whether or not he plays in 2008? If Taylor and Carter start all year, do we then get to keep that 7th rounder for James? I'm fuzzy on this one.

Either way, it's just another example of how the signing of Taylor puts the Skins in a better situation.

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:11 am**

hailskins666 wrote:
Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1
sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Now's the time to hit him with shipping costs! Heh, heh, heh.... :wink:

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:45 pm**

Countertrey wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1
sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Now's the time to hit him with shipping costs! Heh, heh, heh....

I'm going to require that Ramsey actually throw the jersey to me

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:03 pm**

PMG12569 wrote: Now the real debate starts...What number will he wear and when will those Taylor Jerseys be in stores!! lol

Not very long...found this in my e-mail this morning

http://store.redskins.com/productinfo.a ... tcode1=626

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:16 pm**

Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1
sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Now's the time to hit him with shipping costs! Heh, heh, heh....

I'm going to require that Ramsey actually throw the jersey to me

he'll probably end up getting blindsided, and fumble it.

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:54 pm**

Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1
sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Now's the time to hit him with shipping costs! Heh, heh, heh....

I'm going to require that Ramsey actually throw the jersey to me

In exchange for a Coke?

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:08 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:09 pm**

Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
Fios wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Bruce Smith anyone?
ha ha. i'm sure you read my earlier posts.

sour grapes anyone?

by the way, i've got a mint condition pat ramsey autographed jersey if you want to buy. he signed it on the nameplate while i was wearing it. i've even got pics of it. throw a bid out there.

$1
sold. when do you want to take delivery? i can almost buy a duece of good beer for that. well worth it if you ask me.

Now's the time to hit him with shipping costs! Heh, heh, heh....

I'm going to require that Ramsey actually throw the jersey to me

No problem, Ramsey's actually a delivery boy now. A new, clean jersey would set you back $60. You get the discount since it's been written on and they can't sell it as new anymore.

Posted: **Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:08 am**

I don't know about everybody else but I'm pretty excited about the Jason Taylor acquisition, considering what happened to Phillip Daniels.

Posted: **Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:24 am**

Haven wrote:I don't know about everybody else but I'm pretty excited about the Jason Taylor acquisition, considering what happened to Phillip Daniels.

I like this signing.

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