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Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:29 pm**

when the object is to cerebral whatchathingy? lol

Run Up The Score !!!! Just do it like Nike against the Jets dag gone it!!!

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:51 pm**

nah, don't do it. IT's good noone has that much film on the offense, they are fresh =)

I really like how Gibbs don't give in to the trend. two Sundays ago he could've iced the kicker for the long one but nope, he held back and it worked. =)

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:05 pm**

were they running up the score, how can you really say that when they are that good anyways....but i,ll be honest it looked like it but maybe thats just me...

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:05 pm**

Ok my folks, I've posted all I can on the topic of running up the score and I've met quite a resistance..lol.. and it's cool though because I love all my Skins fan the same. I'll make this my last post here (for today) just by saying this one thing. If we lose to ANY team for the rest of this season because we blew a lead, someone just make a thread called "Langleyparkjoe told ya so".. LOL

Before the Pats game I was saying we need to run up the score anyways just to eliminate the fact that a team like the bum azz giants can come back and beat us. I know I know, when the game is out of comeback range we shouldn't do it (according to what everyone today has posted). Heck, that's not me, I want to beat everyone, ESPECIALLY dem cowpunks by at least 50-60 points. I've been told that doing that is "classless" to some of you but having class in the NFL means absolutley nothing. I do, like you all, remember when teams feared our beloved Skins and I'd love for all teams to do that again.

You guys be easy out there!!

GO SKINS!!! SHOOT DOWN DA JETS!!!

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:59 pm**

langleyparkjoe wrote:when the object is to cerebral whatchathingy? lol

Run Up The Score !!!! Just do it like Nike against the Jets dag gone it!!!

More proof that "No Child Left Behind" has been a roaring success... :lol:

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:25 pm**

Our team was outcoached, outplayed you name it. Now that you mention it I do hope Gibbs learns a very hard lesson from this butt whoopin.

Seriously though I still took that fourth and 1 play as an insult, they still could have easily punted that ball or went for a field goal.

I also believe in going for the throat as well, but you have to admit that fourth and one play felt like they were slapping a guy that was already down and out for the count.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:31 pm**

Countertrey wrote:
I suppose, if you were a boxer, you would keep hitting a guy that was out cold, laying on the ropes, if the ref didn't step in?

Bad analogy... if you have watched enough boxing, you have noticed that they, in fact, DO NOT stop punching until the ref steps in. Sooo... if he were a boxer, that is exactly what he'd do.

If you answer yes to this you need to have your morale compass calibrated!

That you'd use the term "morale" (I assume you meant moral) "compass" in describing a boxing decision is certainly interesting... if not bizarre...

To consider morality when discussing a sport where the objective is to induce acute cerebral cortical insult is hard to reconcile...

I hated all my english teachers and anyone that imitates one!

While I'll admit I haven't watched a lot of fights, I have seen a boxer stop and look at the ref because they new the gut was out. Of course he fell to the floor before the ref could do anything, but that was only because the guy stopped hiiting him and he slid off the ropes.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:31 pm**

I'm not commenting on a particular post. While I do not think anyone should stop until it really is over, it was over on that 4th down with Brady went for it and I would not want to do that if I were in their position. But to me criticizing them for running up the score is more insulting to us then them. Doesn't it mean "we are so bad we can only criticize you for not letting up on us?"

Fortunately we play in the NFC where no one is that good and we have as much a chance as anyone at the Super Bowl. And in any one game anything can happen (at least that's what I'm going to believe until we lose the Super Bowl 52-7 to the Pats).

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:34 pm**

KazooSkinsFan wrote:I'm not commenting on a particular post. While I do not think anyone should stop until it really is over, it was over on that 4th down with Brady went for it and I would not want to do that if I were in their position. But to me criticizing them for running up the score is more insulting to us then them. Doesn't it mean "we are so bad we can only criticize you for not letting up on us?"

Fortunately we play in the NFC where no one is that good and we have as much a chance as anyone at the Super Bowl. And in any one game anything can happen (at least that's what I'm going to believe until we lose the Super Bowl 52-7 to the Pats again.

Concerning the 4th down in question, wasn't it more/less in 4 down territory? I'm honestly asking - don't exactly remember where the ball was at the time.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:41 pm**

While I'll admit I haven't watched a lot of fights, I have seen a boxer stop and look at the ref because they new the gut was out. Of course he fell to the floor before the ref could do anything, but that was only because the guy stopped hiiting him and he slid off the ropes.

Yeah... it happens... every once in a while, a boxer with a conscience... but most boxers are not George Foreman.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:17 pm**

Yes, it seems clear that the Patriots ran up the score. See post above regarding the Patriots "mission" to humiliate every team they play so they can make people forget the video-taping.

As I mentioned, one of the biggest reasons people don't usually do this in the NFL is that they play each other again and again. All teams watch the films, and they show up to play on Sundays.

Anybody out there can hit Brady the way Marshall hit Montana or Arrington hit Aikman. The same thing goes for other Patriots. There are unwritten rules in almost every type of game, and methods of retaliation.

In the NHL, there's the "hip check", or the elbow to the face, or the plain old-fashioned fight.

Even in baseball, pitchers will throw at hitters. One spring training, Tom Seaver threw a pair of 98 mph fastballs about two inches behind Bob Gibson's head because Gibson was throwing at Mets players.

Sure, there really is a "karmic bus" headed toward the Pats. They've played half the season, and even if they had just won the Super Bowl, they would have to play another season. This stuff doesn't go away.

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RiC's question is more interesting: what happened to the defense? Landry and Taylor...where were they? Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Sellers...they usually throw enough weight to crunch somebody. Where were they?

And Gibbs? I don't expect him to show any emotion on the sidelines. Has he ever? But I do expect that he will change things up,and that the Redskins will beat the Jets.

Actually, the next game is the most important of the season. The team is 4-3. In the last two weeks they have won by two points and lost by about 45. Counts as a win and a loss in the standings.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:31 pm**

Personally I don't think that the Patriots did anything wrong. It was our job to stop them and we couldn't do. Gibbs could use of Belichick's attitude because if he was a more aggressive coach we would probably be 6-1 right now. With that being said, I have no idea why GW just kept sitting back in coverage and didn't have us blitz more. We basically just let the Pats march up and down the field. If the players or coaches didn't like it they should've just sent Taylor or Landry on a blitz and knocked the crap out of Brady, 15 yard penalty and fines be damned.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:09 pm**

Personally, Canes, I don't have any problem, really, with the Patriots playing for 60 minutes as if the game was 0-0 in the 4th quarter.

On the other hand, as Welch points out, the NFL will, eventually, invoke it's own form of karma on this fabulously talented team with it's cold blooded coach. The teams this team has crushed on it's current climb will be heard from again... and those yet to play are furiously taking notes...

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:45 pm**

Here is what really pisses me off (I need to get this off of my chest)!! How some players are bitchin about this! This is the only thing that embarrasses me is how some of these players responded. They were punked and crying about what the other team did instead of what they didn't do. Heck, patriot fans have a right to gloat......I did in '91!

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:47 pm**

HitDoctor!

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:24 am**

Countertrey wrote:HitDoctor!

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:24 am**

Hey there guys I have been reading all of the posts and now I finally have a chance to speak on this matter. I don't like to lose at all, but there are going to be some games where a team is going to have an off day. Its one thing to lose and lose big, and its another thing when you lose big because the other team is trying to rub your nose in it. I'm not happy that the Redskins got beat 52-7, on the other hand I'm not going to complain that we got beat by that margin. What I am really pissed off at is HOW we lost 52-7. The Patriots were up by what 38 points in the 4th? And there throwing the football down the field as if they are in a close game? Going for it on fourth and 1, when all they could have done is kicked a field goal? How about seeing on several plays where Patriots players were getting yelled at because they got a penalty when there up more the 41 points? How about Tom Brady yelling at the offical because he thought that there should have been a penalty against the Redskins in the 4th? How about Tom Brady doing a qb sneak on fourth down in the 4th? I don't know if anobody saw this but what about the play in the 4th where Sean Taylor got kicked? This is not class, and I think that the Patriots are chumps and I don't know if people remember the hit that Joe Montana got from Lenard Marshall that eventually ended his career with the 49ers, but you can remember this the Patriots are going to try and pull this same classless move on somebody else and that somebody else will try and do the same thing to Brady as what happend to Montana. If the Patriots in the 4th up by 38 points just ran the football and didn't throw the ball deep down the field and didn't go for it on 4th down and they didn't do all these things and still put up 52 points then I don't see a problem with that.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:10 am**

I just hate how cocky and arrogant BB and the patriots are. BB is probably the most OCD football coach ever, ever. how are you going to cheat against the JETS, go for it on 4th in the 4th, and run up the score, and STILL pretend like youre not good enough?

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:04 am**

Did the patriots run up the score, YES!

But the team that showed up on Sunday deserved every point that was scored against them. The Patriots did nothing that should'nt have been on the film. We were horribly prepared for this game and it was obvious early. All the Patriots did was execute their playbook flawlessly and expose the way to beat the Skins is to blitz Campbell all the time

I said in a previous post that all you hear out of Redskin Park is 'putting this one behind us" or "we just gotta move on" THATS B.S. This needs to sting for a good long time. They need to be reminded of this on a daily basis. if it means putting a 52-7 on the goalposts of the practice field, so be it. A Patriots logo in the weight room , fine.

Jim Tressel , the head coach at Ohio State had the door code to the practice facilities changed to 4214 (score of last years National championship game 42-14) It doesnt look like the Buckeyes have forgotten! We should NEVER forget this until we have our opportunity to strip THEM of their pride in the same manner

One question, if they have the opportunity to do this to the Colts, do they? They know beyond any doubt they will meet the Colts again in the playoffs, do you humiliate them at home?

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:46 am**

Countertrey wrote:HitDoctor!

So, next time the teams that the Patriots beat will really, really, really try? Maybe that's what's wrong with the Skins. They just don;t play hard enough without extra motivation. :wink:

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:00 am**

BTW Wasn't it the Redskins who were trying to tattoo the Patriots wide receivers right from the start of the game, bringing alittle something extra? Wasn't that the approach that half the people on this board was advocating? "Hit them in the mouth and let's see how they like it?" Well, if you want to play tough, then play tough and stop whining when things dont go your way. Have some stones. Take your #5 rated defense and STOP THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE.

And don;t start with "they should have run the ball instead of passing". What if they ran and picked up 15 yards a carry. Should they run it only 2 yards then fall down on their own before getting a first down? Perhaps just hand the ball to a defensive player of their choice? Maybe run it into the other end zone and give the Skins some points?

If I were a Skins fan. I'd be embarased, not by the result of the game, but by the attitude of a handful of your players who don't seem to get it.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:03 am**

jmooney wrote:

One question, if they have the opportunity to do this to the Colts, do they? They know beyond any doubt they will meet the Colts again in the playoffs, do you humiliate them at home?

Yes. And if the Colts have the opportunity, they will too. (Go back and look at the Colts' 2004 season). It's the NFL.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:08 am**

I for one am glad that this happened, maybe now, some players will realize what kind of dicipline and sacrifice it takes to be a champion of this caliber in the NFL. Thank the New England patriots for raising the bar. Who on their roster took pre-season off? How many 'easy practices" did they have? There is a DEMAND for excellence associated with the players and coaches of that franchise and it shows.

Example: They lead by 38 points and one of their O-Line gets flagged for a formation penalty, Brady jumped down his throat.

Where is that attitude around here?

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:09 am**

capetide wrote:BTW Wasn't it the Redskins who were trying to tattoo the Patriots wide receivers right from the start of the game, bringing alittle something extra? Wasn't that the approach that half the people on this board was advocating? "Hit them in the mouth and let's see how they like it?" Well, if you want to play tough, then play tough and stop whining when things dont go your way. Have some stones. Take your #5 rated defense and STOP THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE.

And don;t start with "they should have run the ball instead of passing". What if they ran and picked up 15 yards a carry. Should they run it only 2 yards then fall down on their own before getting a first down? Perhaps just hand the ball to a defensive player of their choice? Maybe run it into the other end zone and give the Skins some points?

If I were a Skins fan. I'd be embarased, not by the result of the game, but by the attitude of a handful of your players who don't seem to get it.

If I were a Patriots fan, I'd be concerned about how long Tom Brady will be healthy. Every team in the league took notice and not every team in the league is against taking a player out, penalties and fines be damned. The Patriots go nowhere without Brady and everyone knows it. Don't be surprised if every team the Patriots play the rest of the season try to take him out. That's the price of showing no mercy. You get none in return.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:56 am**

jmooney wrote:I for one am glad that this happened, maybe now, some players will realize what kind of dicipline and sacrifice it takes to be a champion of this caliber in the NFL. Thank the New England patriots for raising the bar. Who on their roster took pre-season off? How many 'easy practices" did they have? There is a DEMAND for excellence associated with the players and coaches of that franchise and it shows.

Example: They lead by 38 points and one of their O-Line gets flagged for a formation penalty, Brady jumped down his throat.

Where is that attitude around here?

Excellent Point!!!!! :idea:

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