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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:43 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Mursilis wrote:I've been saying start JC since camp, and that hasn't changed.


Man, that must suck to not be heard. You should have spoken up louder during the coaches meetings in training camp and even thru last week. After all, you were there right?

Silly Gibbs. :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:50 pm
by ii7-V7
Mursilis wrote:Brother, it's simple. Brunell has a losing record as a starter for this team, and now, every snap he takes robs Campbell of a chance to play and improve. Since Brunell is a loser as a starter, you wanting him to start = you wanting the Redskins to lose (or at least have the best chance of losing). And you call yourself a fan? :twisted:


Dude, this is ridiculous. Who are you to question who is and who isn't a fan?

You assert that Gibbs isn't throwing the deep ball because he knows that Brunell can't, and that he does know that Campbell can make those throws but won't put him in due to loyalty. You think that you know more than Gibbs, and that Gibbs would intentionally hurt the team....and you call yourself a fan?

Seriously, stop with the who is and who isn't a fan accusations? This isn't a witch hunt its a discussion board.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:57 pm
by Mursilis
chaddukes wrote:
Mursilis wrote:Brother, it's simple. Brunell has a losing record as a starter for this team, and now, every snap he takes robs Campbell of a chance to play and improve. Since Brunell is a loser as a starter, you wanting him to start = you wanting the Redskins to lose (or at least have the best chance of losing). And you call yourself a fan? :twisted:


Dude, this is ridiculous. Who are you to question who is and who isn't a fan?

You assert that Gibbs isn't throwing the deep ball because he knows that Brunell can't, and that he does know that Campbell can make those throws but won't put him in due to loyalty. You think that you know more than Gibbs, and that Gibbs would intentionally hurt the team....and you call yourself a fan?

Seriously, stop with the who is and who isn't a fan accusations? This isn't a witch hunt its a discussion board.


Note the :twisted:. Heck, I've even defended Redeemed on this board before, and I gave him that sig line (Brunell's No. 1 fan). I've got no real issue with him, and I doubt he has any with me; we're just having a little fun with each other.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:00 pm
by ii7-V7
OK, forgive me for not recognizing the sarcasm. :oops:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:31 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Mursilis wrote:Note the :twisted:. Heck, I've even defended Redeemed on this board before, and I gave him that sig line (Brunell's No. 1 fan). I've got no real issue with him, and I doubt he has any with me; we're just having a little fun with each other.


None whatsoever. It's a tailg8 for pete's sake!!! Occasionally, in defending positions, some kool-aid will be spilt and some Brats will be knocked off the grill (5-second rule IS in effect, though. :lol:).

Good or bad, the dialogue is well received. Thanks.

- TRO O:)

*Note: Of course, all bets are off once I make my next prediction. :twisted:*


:lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:25 pm
by SkinzCanes
By John Clayton

• Every Monday, Joe Gibbs assembles his assistants for a staff meeting. The subject of third-string quarterback Jason Campbell comes up. Each week, Gibbs goes around the room and has an open discussion of when to give Campbell the chance to start ahead of quarterback Mark Brunell. Although it is likely Brunell will start next Sunday's game against Tampa Bay, Campbell's time is coming soon. The Redskins are 3-6 and all but out of playoff contention. The coaches like Campbell's progress, but Gibbs feels compelled to stay with a veteran quarterback to placate a team that is trying hard. Although it's not out of the question for Campbell to get the start, it's more reasonable to expect him to be in the lineup sometime after Thanksgiving, possibly in Week 12. By the way, don't think Gibbs is going to step down at the end of the season. He spent part of recent weeks in meetings looking at the 2007 salary cap and its implications on the Redskins.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:57 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
SkinzCanes wrote:
By John Clayton

• Every Monday, Joe Gibbs assembles his assistants for a staff meeting. The subject of third-string quarterback Jason Campbell comes up. Each week, Gibbs goes around the room and has an open discussion of when to give Campbell the chance to start ahead of quarterback Mark Brunell. Although it is likely Brunell will start next Sunday's game against Tampa Bay, Campbell's time is coming soon. The Redskins are 3-6 and all but out of playoff contention. The coaches like Campbell's progress, but Gibbs feels compelled to stay with a veteran quarterback to placate a team that is trying hard. Although it's not out of the question for Campbell to get the start, it's more reasonable to expect him to be in the lineup sometime after Thanksgiving, possibly in Week 12. By the way, don't think Gibbs is going to step down at the end of the season. He spent part of recent weeks in meetings looking at the 2007 salary cap and its implications on the Redskins.


I saw this earlier this AM on ESPN, as well, ande I'm excited about the prospect of seeing #8 at QB at the home game vs. the Panthers, or JC getting a heroes welcome as his era begins in Washington. It's a win-win situation. (Hopefully, they DO win)

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:59 pm
by SkinzCanes
I saw this earlier this AM on ESPN, as well, ande I'm excited about the prospect of seeing #8 at QB at the home game vs. the Panthers, or JC getting a heroes welcome as his era begins in Washington. It's a win-win situation. (Hopefully, they DO win)


Yea if you're a Panthers fan or player. I'm sure that they would love to have Brunell still starting at that point.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:02 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
SkinzCanes wrote:Yea if you're a Panthers fan or player. I'm sure that they would love to have Brunell still starting at that point.


Couldn't the same be said about their excitement over watching/playing against a player taking his first live snaps in an NFL game? :hmm:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:06 pm
by Fios
If Gibbs sticks with Brunell against Tampa, then I fear this becomes 2004 redux, IMO the guy played himself out of the starting position yesterday

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:12 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Fios wrote:If Gibbs sticks with Brunell against Tampa, then I fear this becomes 2004 redux, IMO the guy played himself out of the starting position yesterday


I agree that if Gibbs is gonna do a QB change, Tampa would probably be the better situation in which to do it. (of course, being at home would probably be less hostile for the kid).

But, if Gibbs is still willing to roll the dice with Mark in Tampa, of course, I will suport that decision as well. :)

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:28 pm
by roybus14
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
Fios wrote:If Gibbs sticks with Brunell against Tampa, then I fear this becomes 2004 redux, IMO the guy played himself out of the starting position yesterday


I agree that if Gibbs is gonna do a QB change, Tampa would probably be the better situation in which to do it. (of course, being at home would probably be less hostile for the kid).

But, if Gibbs is still willing to roll the dice with Mark in Tampa, of course, I will suport that decision as well. :)


Yeah but it will show you that Joe Gibbs 2.0 needs patches, hotfixes, upgrades, etc. because the second edition is full of bugs, worms, viruses, etc....

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:53 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
roybus14 wrote:Yeah but it will show you that Joe Gibbs 2.0 needs patches, hotfixes, upgrades, etc. because the second edition is full of bugs, worms, viruses, etc....


:lol: Good one.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:13 pm
by SkinsFreak
Did you hear Brunell's presser on Redskins.com today?

He was asked about all the dump-off passes in the flat. Brunell said that those passes were check-downs when he had nothing else.

Soooo... the passes in the flat were NOT designed plays, merely Brunell whimping out and not putting the ball downfield. Thanks Mark! :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:25 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
SkinsFreak wrote:Did you hear Brunell's presser on Redskins.com today?

He was asked about all the dump-off passes in the flat. Brunell said that those passes were check-downs when he had nothing else.

Soooo... the passes in the flat were NOT designed plays, merely Brunell whimping out and not putting the ball downfield. Thanks Mark! :roll:


LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:31 pm
by SkinzCanes
LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.


Exactly. Anybody that watched Kansas City play the last few seasons knows that these aren't the types of throws that Saunders wants his qb to make. Saunders wants to stretch the field and throw accross the middle. He calls the plays, Brunell just can't execute. I'm sure that our receivers will be real happy to see that Brunell had to throw underneath because they couldn't get open :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:34 pm
by SkinsFreak
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:Did you hear Brunell's presser on Redskins.com today?

He was asked about all the dump-off passes in the flat. Brunell said that those passes were check-downs when he had nothing else.

Soooo... the passes in the flat were NOT designed plays, merely Brunell whimping out and not putting the ball downfield. Thanks Mark! :roll:


LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.


I'm with you, Chris.

Mark also said the o-line played great, he had time to throw and they rushed for over 100 yards. Hmmmm... you can see it in Marks face, he almost wants to admit he sucks.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:36 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
SkinsFreak wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:Did you hear Brunell's presser on Redskins.com today?

He was asked about all the dump-off passes in the flat. Brunell said that those passes were check-downs when he had nothing else.

Soooo... the passes in the flat were NOT designed plays, merely Brunell whimping out and not putting the ball downfield. Thanks Mark! :roll:


LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.


I'm with you, Chris.

Mark also said the o-line played great, he had time to throw and they rushed for over 100 yards. Hmmmm... you can see it in Marks face, he almost wants to admit he sucks.


Nobody is speaking verbally but you can see it in their body language. You dont hear Moss standing up for Mark specifically anymore.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:37 pm
by roybus14
SkinsFreak wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:Did you hear Brunell's presser on Redskins.com today?

He was asked about all the dump-off passes in the flat. Brunell said that those passes were check-downs when he had nothing else.

Soooo... the passes in the flat were NOT designed plays, merely Brunell whimping out and not putting the ball downfield. Thanks Mark! :roll:


LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.


I'm with you, Chris.

Mark also said the o-line played great, he had time to throw and they rushed for over 100 yards. Hmmmm... you can see it in Marks face, he almost wants to admit he sucks.


How much more do you need to see and hear than that????

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:38 pm
by SkinsFreak
SkinzCanes wrote:
LOL, thats what Ive been trying to say. Saunders isn't a rookie at this. Brunell just can't get it done.


Exactly. Anybody that watched Kansas City play the last few seasons knows that these aren't the types of throws that Saunders wants his qb to make. Saunders wants to stretch the field and throw accross the middle. He calls the plays, Brunell just can't execute. I'm sure that our receivers will be real happy to see that Brunell had to throw underneath because they couldn't get open :roll:


Really. True that.

I'm surprised that the receivers aren't pitching a fit for not having the ball thrown their way. As much as I love Cooley, it bothers me that he is always the leading receiver and not the wide-outs.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:40 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
BREAKING NEWS: Sportstalk 980 just shared a rumor about Joe's upcoming presser. Sources indicate "Ocho" will be replaced this Sunday.


*Tailg8ers nervously awaiting confirmation.*

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:43 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
ESPN'S JOHN CLAYTON CONFIRMS THAT JASON CAMPBELL WILL START ON SUNDAY VS. THE SUCS

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:43 pm
by 1niksder
Last night was the first time I didn't here him stand up for #8... xxxespn is going live with the presser and ESPN is already reporting Campbell will start Snday

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:45 pm
by SkinsFreak
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:ESPN'S JOHN CLAYTON CONFIRMS THAT JASON CAMPBELL WILL START ON SUNDAY VS. THE SUCS




:celebrate:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:46 pm
by 1niksder
How did ESPN get it before Joe has said it?