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Exciting news for Kirk Cousins fans

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Jimmy Garoppolo has been traded from the Patriots to the 49ers ...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patr ... ound-pick/

hopefully Dan and Bruce can find a way to keep Kirk Cousins now that his main guy Kyle Shanahan has gone in a different direction

Cousins recent play must have shown Kyle that Kirk was going to want a huge deal to leave the Redskins :lol:
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I can't help but wonder if SF inquired about Cousins. If so would you have pulled the trigger on the same trade? I know Snyder and Allen don't want to "give" Cousins to Kyle but they may look back and wished they would have??
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this franchise has made some really bad mistakes the past few years and while no franchise is mistake free, so many of the decisions made here are baffling to say the least

we have really become a franchise that die hard supporters keep hoping that a better time is not far away ... and it never gets here
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and this from Kyle Tasman of 24/7 Sports ...
And just like that, Kirk Cousins future in D.C. looks a lot more promising.

With Jimmy Garoppolo heading to the San Francisco 49ers -- the most popular free agent destination for the Washington Redskins quarterback -- and likely spelling the end of the notion that the Bay Area would be Cousins' next destination.

While it's no certainty that Cousins will remain with the Redskins, taking the 49ers off the board vastly changes the complexity of contract negotiations between the two sides. Suddenly, a team in desperate need of a starting quarterback now has one for the future, eliminating arguably the biggest threat to the Redskins re-signing their signal caller.

Other suitors still remain for Cousins, with the Denver Broncos and Minnesota Vikings chief amongst them. Thankfully for the Redskins, each team faces major hurdles in making that dream become a reality.

In Minnesota, the Vikings currently have two starting-caliber quarterbacks on their roster in Sam Bradford and Teddy Bridgewater. While both will be free agents at the end of the season, the Vikings hold out hope that Bridgewater, once deemed their franchise quarterback, will make a full comeback from the devastating knee injury he suffered prior to the start of last season. Should that be the case, re-signing him will be nothing more than a formality, likely ending any potential pursuit for Cousins.

Denver is another with glaring issues at the quarterback position, however salary cap problems will come into play. According to Spotrac.com, the Broncos are expected to be amongst the bottom of the league in available cap space next season, greatly diminishing the likelihood that they would be willing to pay over the odds for Cousins, something the 49ers and Vikings would be in a position to do.

Effectively, the Redskins could be in a position to re-sign Cousins long-term for less than what he would likely be able to command from a team like the 49ers. That bodes well for the Redskins when it comes to negotiations -- should there be any -- moving forward.

It's still far from guaranteedd that the 28-year-old will stick around, but it certainly changes the dynamic of what is shaping up to be a delicate situation this offseason.

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This shows that Cousins is either gonna be probably a Bronco, or a Viking next year, or return to the Skins.
Best case for both Cousins, and the Skins is that they get a long term deal done.
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I think that the best thing for Kirk Cousins is to play well for the remainder of the season - that is something that he controls - there is no way that anyone knows how well Garoppolo is going to play and if he does play well, how much he will want, considering the rate for good NFL QBs
Cousins just needs to continue to play well and then he will be able to go where he wants because he might as well go play where he feels he will be appreciated

I'd like to think that Cousins would sign a reasonable deal to stay here but after what he's been through, I can't believe that he will want to do that and I'm sure he's going to want to play somewhere where the FO has a clue about what they are doing
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SkinsJock wrote:this FO has made some really bad mistakes the past few years

while no franchise is mistake free, so many of the decisions made here are baffling to say the least - we have become a franchise that die hard supporters (like me) keep hoping that a better time is not far away ... and it never gets here
the only way that this franchise will be able to convince Cousins to stay is to fire Bruce Allen & have a FO without influence from Dan Snyder

Cousins is not interested in $ he wants stability and to be a part of a playoff contender
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Well Cousins looks to be gone. Big trade between K.C. and Skins. Skins got Alex Smith. Chiefs got 3rd round pick, and Corner Back Kendall Fuller. Look to see Cousins traded soon. Alex Smith last season had a much better O-Line.
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flamethrower wrote:Well Cousins looks to be gone. Big trade between K.C. and Skins. Skins got Alex Smith. Chiefs got 3rd round pick, and Corner Back Kendall Fuller. Look to see Cousins get traded soon. Alex Smith last season had a much better O-Line.
:shock: PLEASE clarify how this franchise can trade Kirk Cousins?
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SkinsJock wrote::shock: PLEASE clarify how this franchise can trade Kirk Cousins?


A trade won't happen, nobody in their right mind bets the farm on this guy
when they can wait till June 1st and save tons of money in the process
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SkinsJock wrote:
flamethrower wrote:Well Cousins looks to be gone. Big trade between K.C. and Skins. Skins got Alex Smith. Chiefs got 3rd round pick, and Corner Back Kendall Fuller. Look to see Cousins get traded soon. Alex Smith last season had a much better O-Line.
:shock: PLEASE clarify how this franchise can trade Kirk Cousins?
I forgot he is a free agent. Unlike some folks around here. I can admit to making an error.
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Anywho his next suitors??? is still a hot topic of discussion and worth exploring if anyone is game to venture a guess where he may land next season?
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what a waste of talent ... and for the Redskins a huge waste of time & money invested
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Kirk Cousins continues to look like a QB who can carry an offense. His game against Green Bay reminds us. Minnesota fans, however, see him as the $84 million man.
Kirk Cousins still hasn’t won over Minnesota, but his best chance is here

By Adam Kilgore December 1 at 7:07 AM

Playing for the Minnesota Vikings on a fully guaranteed contract, Kirk Cousins enjoys professional security and personal stability while chasing a Super Bowl for a steady franchise. Playing for the Washington Redskins on a series of one-year deals, Cousins wondered about his job status and place of residence while attempting to tame ever-present chaos and overcome ingrained mediocrity. His new employer coveted him and embraces him. His old one mispronounced his name.

For all the polarity Cousins experienced between this season and last, the way his team’s fan base thinks about him has remained static. For years in Washington, he existed as both a promising quarterback and a source of regional queasiness: Is he worth the big contract the team could give him? For half a season in Minnesota, he has existed as both franchise quarterback and a source regional queasiness: Is he worth the big contract the team gave him?

Late Sunday afternoon, Cousins will take his latest crack at putting Minnesotans at peace about their 30-year-old, $84-million quarterback. In the thick of the NFC playoff picture at 6-4-1, the Vikings will travel to New England for another crucial game that will clarify the relationship between Cousins and his new home, another data point in Cousins’s new reality.

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“It’s always complicated,” Vikings quarterbacks coach Kevin Stefanski said. “There’s always things in every game where you say, he can do better. And there’s always plays where you say, ‘That’s uncoachable.’ He does some special things, because he has some God-given talent. The answer is always in the middle when it comes to quarterback play and quarterback evaluation.”

Full article here:

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thanks welch - interesting read - the Vikings did not greatly improve their chances at being in the Super Bowl by giving Cousins $84M
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SkinsJock wrote:thanks welch - interesting read - the Vikings did not greatly improve their chances at being in the Super Bowl by giving Cousins $84M
Seems like the Vikings' problems are at OL. The article mentions that they have had problems blocking for Cousins.
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welch wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:thanks welch - interesting read - the Vikings did not greatly improve their chances at being in the Super Bowl by giving Cousins $84M
Seems like the Vikings' problems are at OL. The article mentions that they have had problems blocking for Cousins.
Whatever do they mean? He has Tom Compton blocking for him!
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At game number 15, Cousins has thrown for more than 4,000 yards again, with 29 TD's and 10 INT's.
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If the Vikings find a way to beat Chicago Sunday they will be 9-6-1. If they lose they will be 8-7-1 and could miss the playoffs.
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DarthMonk wrote:If the Vikings find a way to beat Chicago Sunday they will be 9-6-1. If they lose they will be 8-7-1 and could miss the playoffs.
A couple of games that draw my interest:

- Vikings: just to see how Cousins does

- Browns: I like that team. From zero wins in forever to a winning record, maybe. Baker Mayfield. Gregg Williams and Al Saunders coaching.

And the Redskins, of course. A win or a loss will not change their draft position much. A win is always good.
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+1 - going to be some fun games to watch ... always good to close the season with a win & we get the game in NE ...
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how great is this - the Vikings paid Cousins $84M and they aren't any better ...

AND there are some that are wondering if this signing was a mistake - are you freaking kidding me

Kirk Cousins was always just a good NFL QB whose value increased because of what the Redskins FO did - NOT because of his play on the field
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