Morgan Moses struggling

[DarthMonk]

Morgan Moses - T

The Washington Post leaves the door open for the Redskins to possibly cut third-round OT Morgan Moses.

Beat writer Mike Jones does write that it would be "hard to see them giving up on a third-round pick this quickly." But Moses is having trouble adjusting to the speed and strength of NFL pass rushers. Tom Compton has outplayed Moses as the No. 3 tackle behind starters LT Trent Williams and RT Tyler Polumbus.

Moses' name was brought up as a potential first- or second-rounder before going 66th overall to Washington. He may be a weekly scratch in year one.

Source: Washington Post Jul 29 - 1:27 PM

[riggofan]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

[SkinsJock]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year ...

the offensive line needs a huge makeover and it will take time - if they think he's not good enough, he's gone

[riggofan]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year ...

the offensive line needs a huge makeover and it will take time - if they think he's not good enough, he's gone

Give me a break. That's ridiculous. How many offensive linemen are drafted in the third round and start that same year? We have four or five guys we've drafted who have been here three years and haven't been starters yet.

We actually DO have the luxury of waiting a year. We have a serviceable starting right tackle and a pro bowl left tackle. There is no problem with Moses being a backup this year.

[HEROHAMO]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year ...

the offensive line needs a huge makeover and it will take time - if they think he's not good enough, he's gone

Your contradicting yourself. You say it will take time. Yet you are advocating cutting Moses. I think he needs more time to develop and heal from injury. The main reason he dropped in the draft was because he was injured I believe. I think he needs time. By year two if no improvements have been made then I can see cutting him maybe.

[Countertrey]

I don't see them cutting him this year.

[PAPDOG67]

Get this guy into the weight room for a full season and see where we are at. A lot of rookies come in severely out of shape in terms of the speed and strength needed to compete day in and day out on the NFL level......much like college freshman who need to adjust from the HS game. It doesn't mean they are no good, they just need a year of NFL strength and conditioning. Sounds to me like he will be red-shirted.

[SkinsJock]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year ...

the offensive line needs a huge makeover and it will take time - if they think he's not good enough, he's gone

Your contradicting yourself. You say it will take time. Yet you are advocating cutting Moses. I think he needs more time to develop and heal from injury. The main reason he dropped in the draft was because he was injured I believe. I think he needs time. By year two if no improvements have been made then I can see cutting him maybe.

No! - if they don't think he's going to make it they're not keeping him just because of where he was drafted is what I'm saying

I do think it's going to take a lot longer than some here think to have a good offensive line here again

IMO - this new staff is going to be very motivated and not scared to get rid of players that don't fit what they need to do no matter where or who brought them in

[KazooSkinsFan]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted. I just can't see him not making the team. Deservedly or not, how would Allen/Gruden explain THAT?

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year ...

the offensive line needs a huge makeover and it will take time - if they think he's not good enough, he's gone

Give me a break. That's ridiculous. How many offensive linemen are drafted in the third round and start that same year? We have four or five guys we've drafted who have been here three years and haven't been starters yet.

We actually DO have the luxury of waiting a year. We have a serviceable starting right tackle and a pro bowl left tackle. There is no problem with Moses being a backup this year.

I totally agree Riggo. This is what I was going to post as well, and I saw you already did it.

You're just wrong on this one Jock. Clearly we can just not activate him for one year and give him time to strengthen and study up. Based on all the film they watched and how high they drafted him, I can't believe we would not do that. If we are having this conversation next year, then cutting him starts to become plausible. But with all they had to see on tape not giving him a year on a third round salary? That is inconceivable. And that word, it does mean what I think it means...

[KazooSkinsFan]

No! - if they don't think he's going to make it they're not keeping him just because of where he was drafted is what I'm saying

Again, they watch a lot of tape. To use that high a pick and not give him one year? It's ridiculous. He will be on the team. He just may never be activated this year.

[SkinsJock]

I hope he's good enough to help out because we need him - he does not need to be very good to be better than the guys that played his position last season

[SkinsJock]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted.

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

from what I've been reading lately a lot of the reports about Moses were just BS and IMO just a result of 'reporters' opinions and certainly not the opinions of the coaching staff - sure, he's a work in progress but he's not in any danger of not making the team - he looks like being able to be an adequate back up lineman - I was led to believe he was struggling but that is not what the coaches were seeing - good for him - we need players like this that are intelligent and like to listen to their coaches

[riggofan]

There's been a lot written about Moses struggling since he was drafted.

He's a smart guy with all of the physical tools. If he needs a year to develop, so be it.

from what I've been reading lately a lot of the reports about Moses were just BS and IMO just a result of 'reporters' opinions and certainly not the opinions of the coaching staff - sure, he's a work in progress but he's not in any danger of not making the team - he looks like being able to be an adequate back up lineman - I was led to believe he was struggling but that is not what the coaches were seeing - good for him - we need players like this that are intelligent and like to listen to their coaches

lol. You're the only person I've seen suggest he might not make the team! All the reports I've read were just that he didn't look ready to be a starter yet. That seems to have been accurate and seems like the coaches have been agreement with that so far as well.

I think the reports about Moses were mostly just responding to fans' hopes that he would beat Polumbus out for the starting RT job as a rookie. That doesn't seem very likely from how he's performed so far.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

ey had nothing but good things to say when he was on the field (so far) stating at one point "im impressed I never would've thought he had that kind of move in him," might not be verbatim but thats what I was left with..

For a third rounder (we can say 2nd round talent due to some scouting reports/ mock drafts) he is performing at or above expectations.. doode has some work to do in order to break into the starting line-up, and is currently a better back up then some of the other guys we have. I think to plug a rookie olinemen in as a starter, game one, it most surely is a first round pick..

[SkinsJock]

Morgan Moses - T

The Washington Post leaves the door open for the Redskins to possibly cut third-round OT Morgan Moses.

Beat writer Mike Jones does write that it would be "hard to see them giving up on a third-round pick this quickly." But Moses is having trouble adjusting to the speed and strength of NFL pass rushers. Tom Compton has outplayed Moses as the No. 3 tackle behind starters LT Trent Williams and RT Tyler Polumbus.

Moses' name was brought up as a potential first- or second-rounder before going 66th overall to Washington. He may be a weekly scratch in year one.

Source: Washington Post Jul 29 - 1:27 PM

hey riggofan - maybe you should check the original post by DM ...

I have never thought Moses should be cut - my opinion back then was based on stupid & uneducated 'reports'

[riggofan]

Morgan Moses - T

The Washington Post leaves the door open for the Redskins to possibly cut third-round OT Morgan Moses.

Beat writer Mike Jones does write that it would be "hard to see them giving up on a third-round pick this quickly." But Moses is having trouble adjusting to the speed and strength of NFL pass rushers. Tom Compton has outplayed Moses as the No. 3 tackle behind starters LT Trent Williams and RT Tyler Polumbus.

Moses' name was brought up as a potential first- or second-rounder before going 66th overall to Washington. He may be a weekly scratch in year one.

Source: Washington Post Jul 29 - 1:27 PM

hey riggofan - maybe you should check the original post by DM ...

I have never thought Moses should be cut - my opinion back then was based on stupid & uneducated 'reports'

SkinsJock wrote:

Moses is not making the team if these guys do not feel he can 'play' soon - we do not have the luxury of waiting a year

Maybe you should check out your own original post.

I love seeing dbags on the internet call out the Washington Post's beat writers for being "uneducated". lol.

[SkinsJock]

ha - my opinion was totally wrong but it was based on 'reports' that Moses might not have what it takes to play on the O line in the NFL ... totally wrong! - as usual from the biased and stupid local DC press ...

It seems very obvious that these guys do not even bother to find out anything from the coaching staff or other players ...

unlike what was 'reported' - Moses looks like he will be able to contribute in the future and is not even close to losing a spot on this roster

[riggofan]

ha - my opinion was totally wrong but it was based on 'reports' that Moses might not have what it takes to play on the O line in the NFL ... totally wrong! - as usual from the biased and stupid local DC press ...

It seems very obvious that these guys do not even bother to find out anything from the coaching staff or other players ...

unlike what was 'reported' - Moses looks like he will be able to contribute in the future and is not even close to losing a spot on this roster

Your opinion was totally wrong because there is no way the Redskins are going to cut their third round pick after only being on the team for three months whether he is struggling or not.

Nobody has reported that Moses doesn't have what it takes to play on the O-line in NFL. I don't know where you come up with this stuff.

[SkinsJock]

ha - my opinion was totally wrong but it was based on 'reports' that Moses might not have what it takes to play on the O line in the NFL ... totally wrong! - as usual from the biased and stupid local DC press ...

It seems very obvious that these guys do not even bother to find out anything from the coaching staff or other players ...

unlike what was 'reported' - Moses looks like he will be able to contribute in the future and is not even close to losing a spot on this roster

back at ya

[SkinsJock]

I love seeing dbags on the internet call out the Washington Post's beat writers for being "uneducated". lol.

just another reminder where some of us stand as far as you are concerned - we are so fortunate to have your input and opinion

[Kilmer72]

Doc Walker was watching the trenches last night and his opinion was Moses looked real good at LT. Maybe he isn't starter quality yet but he blocked well.

[riggofan]

Doc Walker was watching the trenches last night and his opinion was Moses looked real good at LT. Maybe he isn't starter quality yet but he blocked well.

Nice! Gotta love Doc. Most of the post game reports I read said Moses had a few bad plays, but overall did pretty well in his first preseason game.

John Keim wrote this about the backup tackle situation today:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/ ... d-roster-4

Have to say, I'm going back and forth on Tom Compton. Right now I'd say he needs to show better against the higher caliber of players he's now facing. Compton struggled last week and did so again in the preseason opener -- and in practice Sunday. I've liked him and have seen progress, but I just don't know right now. The problem is Morgan Moses does not look ready to be the No. 1 backup tackle. Maybe in three weeks that will be different. Also was not wowed by Josh LeRibeus' outing in the opener.

Smart guy, hard worker. No reason to expect he won't be much improved by the end of training camp.

[riggofan]

I love seeing dbags on the internet call out the Washington Post's beat writers for being "uneducated". lol.

just another reminder where some of us stand as far as you are concerned - we are so fortunate to have your input and opinion

yawn.

[SkinsJock]

Doc Walker was watching the trenches last night and his opinion was Moses looked real good at LT. Maybe he isn't starter quality yet but he blocked well.

when you consider that this O line needs some new players, you've gotta think this kid will be able to contribute sooner rather than later

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/v ... 20b8abd90a

Guess we can put tbis thread title to bed..
nothing but praise for the rook, goes on to say he will be switched to the right side now and the last he said stood out the most to me. That he has a nice situation that he doesnt have to be thrown into the starting roll and can ease into it as the year goes on. Id say if the right side of the line doesnt hold up that they are on notice cus the Rooks are licking their chops waiting for the call!
Gruden also mentions his sise and motor and learning the little things stating he is an nfl caliber tackle and will be around for years to come... sounds like a baragain in the third round!
Great value there, add in the trade w the pukes and not reaching to early on him im even more happy with the way we drafted