The coach the team needs (who might be too old)

[welch]

Suffering through the game and reading about the Shanahan will-he/should-he/what-does-the-Danny-say threads, I remembered the coach the Redskins need, the only coach who brought order in the last decade. Discovered he's coaching youth football, although he sounds absolutely unavailable.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--the-g ... 00202.html

[Redskin in Canada]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

[welch]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

Yes. Thar's why I said he was "absolutely unavailable". Note the comment about not having been around his family as the kids were growing up. Maybe he would take the job for a month?

[SKINS#1]

If Gibbs is not available, I would like to see them give Marty Schottenheimer a call. He is a no BS type coach and with the resources available next year I think he could help the Redskins become winners.

[frankcal20]

After the way Shotty was treated by our owner before, there is a less than ZERO chance that he's leaving his lake house in NC to come here. He's been very clear that there are two folks in the NFL he can't stand. AJ Smith is one and our owner is the other.

We love our team but you have to understand that the Skins job isn't a coveted one by big named coaches. Our owner does not allow coaches to clean up messes. The fan's reaction is now or never. That isn't going to work bring in a big name. You're going to get either retreads who've under performed in HC roles or you're going to get a college coach who, in all likelihood will be only coming for the money. We all know how that's worked for other teams.

[StorminMormon86]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Snyder is the problem with this team. No coach can fix this team until he's gone or completely stays out of interfering with the team.

[grampi]

So what if the problem is Snyder? It's not like the team owner can be ousted. Therefore, the focus needs to be on those parts of the team that can be replaced, and the best place to start is the Shannys and Haslett...the problem is finding personnel who can fill these positions who are 1) good enough to be effective with this team and 2) willing and able to take the job....Shotty or Cower would be good HCs, but I doubt either would be interested...getting Greg Williams back would be a good choice for DC, but I have no idea what he's up to these days....

[UK Skins Fan]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

In what way has Dan Snyder interfered negatively with the team in the last four years?

[SkinsJock]

We do not need a new coach. We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

ain't it the truth

most fans here put ALL the blame on the HC and guys like Kyle, Jim and Ken - IT's EVERYONE - owner, coaching staff and players

HOWEVER - the BIGGEST PROBLEM here is Dan Snyder - he cannot stay away from the players and interfering with the coaching staff

I'm not sure that Mike even wants top be here and I'm not a fan of his coaching style … BUT - which coach, who is worth anything, would want to come here?

[SkinsJock]

In what way has Dan Snyder interfered negatively with the team in the last four years?

THAT is what the whole mess is about - apparently Snyder has been 'in touch' with Robert on more than one occasion and in a way that pissed off Mike

[frankcal20]

A former player said on twitter yesterday during the game that Snyder goes into the lockerroom at halftime of EVERY game. What's Snyder going to go except get in the way?

[Cappster]

A former player said on twitter yesterday during the game that Snyder goes into the lockerroom at halftime of EVERY game. What's Snyder going to go except get in the way?

Wonderful. Is there anyway we can get other Redskins board members to vote that fool out of power?

[Smithian]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

In what way has Dan Snyder interfered negatively with the team in the last four years?

Apparently an owner having a closer relationship with the face of the franchise QB is an unheard of thing. Snyder going out to dinner with the QB who gave his team a respectable season after 4 years of hell was just too much for Shanahan to stomach.

I'm just no longer on the Snyder blame train. I'm not as pro-Snyder as this guy http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191 ... kc-clyburn but I'm getting there. I blame Snyder for all issues pre-Gibbs but it seems he has really improved.

On topic, Gibbs gave us four years that were comparatively great to what we've dealt with since. Good hire by Snyder to go against critics and bring back the legend and give him plenty of control. For better or worse, I consider Gibbs II a success in retrospect.

[Smithian]

A former player said on twitter yesterday during the game that Snyder goes into the lockerroom at halftime of EVERY game. What's Snyder going to go except get in the way?

Snyder should have gone down at halftime of the Seahawks playoff game and told him if RGIII steps on the field in the second half he will be fired on the spot. Shanahan trotted his broken down horse on to the field while every sane Redskins fan screamed at the TV for Cousins. Shanahan then acted flabbergasted as his one legged QB blew the lead and eventually got hurt even worse. I don't care what excuse he has or what Andrews said, any human being with eyes knew it was time to get him out of there.

[Smithian]

We do not need a new coach. We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

ain't it the truth

most fans here put ALL the blame on the HC and guys like Kyle, Jim and Ken - IT's EVERYONE - owner, coaching staff and players

HOWEVER - the BIGGEST PROBLEM here is Dan Snyder - he cannot stay away from the players and interfering with the coaching staff

I'm not sure that Mike even wants top be here and I'm not a fan of his coaching style … BUT - which coach, who is worth anything, would want to come here?

Gibbs came back, Shanahan took the job....

There are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs in the world. Those jobs pay well. And let's be honest, almost any coach who would consider turning down a head coaching job is either an assistant lacking fire or a retread. Find someone new with a bit of fire.

Can it be worse than a head coach whose feelings were hurt because his young star QB who played a huge part in turning the franchise around after the coach gave up on them all of a sudden was really popular? If only RGIII kept his head down and was understated like John Beck Rex Grossman. Heck, Shanahan was so put off by his popularity he kept running the read option over and over and over and over with him until he finally couldn't in the second half of the Seahawks game.

I used to be a huge Shanahan fan but not any more. Shanahan has had ugly divorces with Jake Plummer, Donovan McNabb, and is about to have one with RGIII. Eventually you have to look in the mirror.

[Irn-Bru]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

In what way has Dan Snyder interfered negatively with the team in the last four years?

Shanahan is tight-lipped on this stuff (except perhaps on the chance that he's the source of the ESPN leak), so it's hard to say. But the most recent leak made it sound like Shanahan experiences interference on a regular basis and is now fed up with it — and was last year to the point where he almost quit.

In addition, WaPo has claimed that Snyder was a major influence behind both the McNabb trade and the trade that landed us RGIII.

But again, hard to say, because we don't know the full story. I'm seeing enough symptoms that I'm inclined to believe it.

[SkinsJock]

Snyder CANNOT be trusted - Shanahan and Bruce have changed the culture here but it seems clear that the play on the field is not getting better with Mike in charge

I just hope that Snyder stays out of the way - Snyder needs to MAKE it VERY clear that Bruce Allen as GM will be managing things with Snyder's full support

[Smithian]

We do not need a new coach.

We need a new owner.

It does not matter who comes in with an owner who cannot stop interfering negatively with the team.

Why would Joe stop doing what is important to him with grandchildren in exchange for a failure with Snyder? Please just say no, Joe.

In what way has Dan Snyder interfered negatively with the team in the last four years?

Shanahan is tight-lipped on this stuff (except perhaps on the chance that he's the source of the ESPN leak), so it's hard to say. But the most recent leak made it sound like Shanahan experiences interference on a regular basis and is now fed up with it — and was last year to the point where he almost quit.

In addition, WaPo has claimed that Snyder was a major influence behind both the McNabb trade and the trade that landed us RGIII.

But again, hard to say, because we don't know the full story. I'm seeing enough symptoms that I'm inclined to believe it.

Crazy how all of a sudden when Shanahan's job security is on the line that all these leaks come out painting Snyder and RGIII as the problem while ole honest Mike just toils away for an honest day's pay.

If Shanahan really wanted out after the 7 game win streak last season because his QB was more popular than his guys Rex and Beck then hit the road amigo

[Kilmer72]

No matter whos fault it is, Shanahan is letting this team implode.

[Smithian]

Snyder CANNOT be trusted - Shanahan and Bruce have changed the culture here but it seems clear that the play on the field is not getting better with Mike in charge

I just hope that Snyder stays out of the way - Snyder needs to MAKE it VERY clear that Bruce Allen as GM will be managing things with Snyder's full support

Yesterday's result and many blown leads really don't lend credence to that statement that many of us, including myself, have been fond of saying.

And Snyder has given Shanahan his choice of coordinators, an indoor facility, new chef, new weight room, two quarterbacks... Where were all these leaks about ole honest Mike having these QBs forced on him back when they happened?

Boz said it best, Shanahan and Snyder are playing cobra and mongoose. Shanahan is doing his best to go after Snyder right now with all these leaks but when Snyder goes for the kill it will be brutal and fast (if only when I was fired I had Shanny's golden parachute).

[StorminMormon86]

No matter whos fault it is, Shanahan is letting this team implode.

Like I said earlier, he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. I believe the reports we were hearing about the locker room not particularly enjoying the attention Griffin was getting caused a rift in the locker room. And if the reports about Snyder constantly fawning over him are true, that would be an even greater cause for concern. What's Shanahan to do?

[riggofan]

Joe Gibbs, Marty, Cowher... even Jon Gruden. Personally these are the last guys I would want to hire. I really think we need a hungry guy who hasn't done it all yet, but still has the fire and clout to stand up to Snyder. I've seen some people mention Lovie Smith, and that's probably more in line with the type of coach I'd like to see.

I seriously hope Art Briles isn't on the table. There couldn't be a worse hire in terms of how people and the team will perceive RGIII.

Also, I gotta say I'm just not feeling the Snyder outrage this time around. Its probably not the best situation if he's really going into the locker room, and he doesn't need to be hanging out with RGIII. But I just don't get the sense that he's been the know-it-all meddler that he was a few years ago. I don't love him, but I just don't think he's really to blame for this dismal season.

For whatever reason, Shanahan wants out of here. Personally I think he and Kyle have been worn down by the noise in DC. Coach of the Redskins is a brutal job if you're not winning. Even in a decent season like last year, they both were completely beat up by fans and the media. Its just a tough job no matter how much money Snyder is paying you.

[Smithian]

No matter whos fault it is, Shanahan is letting this team implode.

Like I said earlier, he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. I believe the reports we were hearing about the locker room not particularly enjoying the attention Griffin was getting caused a rift in the locker room. And if the reports about Snyder constantly fawning over him are true, that would be an even greater cause for concern. What's Shanahan to do?

Go find a QB like Grossman or Beck who doesn't get the attention? I don't want a coach who gets his feelings hurt after a couple rookie QBs drag his team back from the brink after he gives up on them in a press conference. Where were these leaks when Shanahan was riding high with the read option?

If you think Robert Kraft, Pat Bowlen, Steve Bisciotti, Tom Benson, etc treat their QBs the same they treat the other 52 players then you're crazy. Is what it is.

[SCSkinsFan]

For those that want to blame it on Snyder just remember that he is not on the field playing. We have a coach that favors a game plan that features smaller, quick O Linemen to execute his stretch run concept. Great! It worked for one year with Alfred. How's it worked out in the other years? Other teams have figured out the schemes and now just blow up our midgets head up and know them 2-3 yards into the backfield and either stuff the run, or lay some heavy wood on our QB who is not quite as nimble as he was last year. 6 sacks again yesterday? Awful!

And let's not forget our great D Coordinator who was given a top 10 (statistically anyway) Defense, decided to, or was told to, convert it to a 3-4 Defense, and now is clearly, and has been since the conversion, one of the worst defenses in the NFL. It's not like we don't have some good athletes on the team. Obviosuly he isn't capable of coaching the 3-4 D, and he needs to go.

And finally, there is definitely nothing special about our Special Teams unit. Yesterday's game was just more evidence of a lack of concept, preparation, effort and coaching. Blaming on the salary cap is just an excuse. Burns needs to go too.

In other words, get rid of them. Get rid of them all.

But, now comes the biggest problem. Snyder is the owner and he is not going to sell the team and go away. So, who comes in now to solve he problem. A former NFL coach? A retread? A college coach? Who would want to become part of the mess this team is in now? The problems are now so rampant in all parts of the organization that it will take a miracle to restore it to any state of respectability.

Miracle? Well it is the Chirstmas Season isn't it? Write your letters to Santa Claus and maybe they will come true.

[Kilmer72]

No matter whos fault it is, Shanahan is letting this team implode.

Like I said earlier, he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. I believe the reports we were hearing about the locker room not particularly enjoying the attention Griffin was getting caused a rift in the locker room. And if the reports about Snyder constantly fawning over him are true, that would be an even greater cause for concern. What's Shanahan to do?

Its too late now but a coach that wants to lead, would have denied the reports. IMO Shanahan is being a coward.