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This is posted after the main participants had left and the Redskins were done giving the Ravens a "little" lesson

Man oh man - I am not saying we are going to do very well this season but it is VERY encouraging to see us handle the Ravens tonight

I know that both teams had some key players that were not participating but there's no doubt that the Redskins CLEARLY handled the Ravens tonight

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Redskins beat the Steelers...Oh, well it's just the preseason.

Redskins beat the Colts...well, no Peyton Manning; the real test will be Baltimore.

Redskins beat Baltimore...more excuses to come
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Bob 0119 wrote:Redskins beat the Steelers...Oh, well it's just the preseason.

Redskins beat the Colts...well, no Peyton Manning; the real test will be Baltimore.

Redskins ALMOST beat Baltimore...more excuses to come

Fixed that for ya... just sayin
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The 1st string Redskins did beat the Ravens, it's the lousy backups and prolly cut list players that lost tonight.
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spenser wrote:
Bob 0119 wrote:Redskins beat the Steelers...Oh, well it's just the preseason.

Redskins beat the Colts...well, no Peyton Manning; the real test will be Baltimore.

Redskins beat Baltimore the Ravens 1st teamers..more excuses to come

Fixed that for ya... just sayin
I fixed it as well - -you know what I am sayin' :)
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Krisk86 wrote:The 1st string Redskins did beat the Ravens, it's the lousy backups and prolly cut list players that lost tonight.
Don't forget that Hazlett didn't game plan the last couple of series he just kept thowing the house instead of disguising where he was blitizing or disgusing coverages. Just can't put any stock into everything from Clemons on except Heluuuuuuu.
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When they drafted Helu I was like, who? But then I watched some of his game film from Nebraska and I had a feeling he was gonna be good. He hasn't let me down yet.
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Krisk86 wrote:When they drafted Helu I was like, who? But then I watched some of his game film from Nebraska and I had a feeling he was gonna be good. He hasn't let me down yet.
I am a Texas Longhorn fan. We know Helu quite well.
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From PFT:
Ravens 34, Redskins 31

1. Rex Grossman got more meaningful time with the starters than John Beck. They both finished strong after shaky starts, handling Baltimore’s blitzes well. Not a decisive victory either way.

2. Washington’s running game and Tim Hightower was the story once again. Hightower scampered for a 37-yard touchdown, capping a strong preseason run. (The starters won’t play much next week.)


4. The Ravens’ entire starting offense doesn’t look quite ready for the season despite the final score. There were lot of communication problems on the offensive line. Somewhere, the Steelers were watching and smiling.
They said the Steelers didn't look ready for us. In other words, the Skins are surprising folks.

Not a decisive victory either way.
Considering the expectation of the Skins - I would have to say it was a decisive victory for the Skins.

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All I care is the Skins were in the lead when the starters left the field!

Although, I hate the fact that terrible play by a QB that won't make the team, a horrendous punt (out kicked hoid coverage by a mile), and a third string D that couldn't stop a flea cost the team a win when they clearly outplayed the buzzards (at least when the starters were on the field.)[/i]
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SkinsJock wrote:This is posted after the main participants had left and the Redskins were done giving the Ravens a "little" lesson

Man oh man - I am not saying we are going to do very well this season but it is VERY encouraging to see us handle the Ravens tonight

I know that both teams had some key players that were not participating but there's no doubt that the Redskins CLEARLY handled the Ravens tonight

GOOD JOB GUYS - some more VERY encouraging signs from a lot of players
SJ, you hit the proverbial nail on the head. This team played with fire, execution and poise. Well, at least the 1st teams did. I like what I saw throughout quarters 1-3 with few exceptions. I am getting VERY excited about this season. Shanny has this team headed in the right direction, and quickly.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:All I care is the Skins were in the lead when the starters left the field!

Although, I hate the fact that terrible play by a QB that won't make the team, a horrendous punt (out kicked hoid coverage by a mile), and a third string D that couldn't stop a flea cost the team a win when they clearly outplayed the buzzards (at least when the starters were on the field.)[/i]
Yes, that's all I care about too.

The 3rd string D wasn't even playing defense - they were all out blitzing on everysingle play. No disguises - no nothing - Everybody running to the QB - got to hand to to Tyrod for being elusive, but a little dropping back into coverage and playing D would have helped - but I am not criticizing because Haz must have had his reasons - looking at something or some particular players - that is what preseason is for.
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Let's put the Clemens pick into perspective.


Clemens - Back up, new team, learning a new offense, playing with third teamers - throws stupid pick

Flaco - 3rd yr Starter, same team, 3rd yr with O, playing with starters - throws stupid pick

Perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on Clemens.
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Love this quote:
"There wasn't any miscommunication there," said defensive tackle Haloti Ngata. "It was just more of the D-line getting cut down. Really, we've got to stay on our feet.
Propaganda:
In the third, Flacco touched a 12-yard dart past two lines of Redskins defense to find Boldin in the end zone, knotting the score at 21.
No mention of Redskin back ups^

Once the starters came out halfway through the third quarter, the Redskins put together a 97-yard touchdown drive, and both teams then traded pairs of field goals.
They made sure to mention back ups - nice spin :roll:

I want to read the Baltimore papers tomorrow and hear the truth.

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Red_One43 wrote:Let's put the Clemens pick into perspective.


Clemens - Back up, new team, learning a new offense, playing with third teamers - throws stupid pick

Flaco - 3rd yr Starter, same team, 3rd yr with O, playing with starters - throws stupid pick

Perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on Clemens.
Flaco's pick was in the first quarter, Clemens was with 3 minutes left in the game while leading trying to run out the clock, so yeah I think I can be harder on Clemens than Flaco. But whatever, bring on the regular season!!
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I'm starting to believe in John Beck......
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Krisk86 wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:Let's put the Clemens pick into perspective.


Clemens - Back up, new team, learning a new offense, playing with third teamers - throws stupid pick

Flaco - 3rd yr Starter, same team, 3rd yr with O, playing with starters - throws stupid pick

Perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on Clemens.
Flaco's pick was in the first quarter, Clemens was with 3 minutes left in the game while leading trying to run out the clock, so yeah I think I can be harder on Clemens than Flaco. But whatever, bring on the regular season!!
Yes, considering the time of the blunders - Clemens is much worse, but:

Coaches call the plays and there is no way in a regular season game, coaches are calling a pass play on second down. They wanted to get a look at him. It was a bad look, but they got a look. For the caoches, it was Clemens' first quarter. I think that they played it best in the interest of the regular season.

I doubt ver seriously, that that play has the coaches losing confidence in Clemens just like the Ravens coaches are losing confidence with Flaco.

We need a to fix some stuff before the reguler season - it can wait until September 11th - I am going to bet you are going to happy concerning football on that day.
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Smithian wrote:I'm starting to believe in John Beck......
Do you think Newsome is kicking himself right now? Dutch for Beck!

I think Ozzie is starting believe in him too.
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Flacco on Hall:
"I think we started off a little slow, obviously," said Flacco. "DeAngelo sat all over that route, and you never want to start out like that.
He gives credit to Hall on that play.

Hall is going to give up some big plays as he did today, but he is a playmaker.

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The Redskins’ starting defense, playing without inside linebacker London Fletcher and cornerback Josh Wilson, allowed 200 yards on 38 snaps.
Can anybody guess who Ryan left out as a starter? Get it right Ryan!

LaRon Landry and Carriker

That's almost 40 % of the starting defense out. Even more reason to be proud of our D and don't forget losing Jenkins a key rotation member of the D line, very early.

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Instant Analysis: Redskins-Ravens

Thursday, August 25, 2011, 9:41 p.m. UPDATED 11:24 p.m.

By Ryan O’Halloran
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BALTIMORE – Opinions and observations from the Redskins’ 34-31 loss to the Baltimore Ravens Thursday.

*The first-team offense and defense for the Redskins played the entire first half before departing. The defense allowed 14 points (and scored a touchdown) and 200 yards and played 38 snaps. The offense scored two touchdowns and gained 192 yards on 28 plays.

*Rex Grossman’s numbers: Four drives (punt, punt, punt and touchdown), 8-of-15 passing for 112 yards and a touchdown.

*John Beck’s numbers: Four drives (touchdown, punt, interception, touchdown pass), 6-of-10 passing for 108 yards and one touchdown.

*Nice job by Grossman on the final drive of the half. He had completions of 18, 19, minus-3, 14, 13 and, finally, a 21-yard touchdown pass to Santana Moss.

*DeAngelo Hall’s 52-yard interception return for a touchdown was a classic case of a cornerback reading the play and jumping the route. It’s a forte of Hall, and sometimes he gets bitten on a stop-and-go pattern. He got away with cutting back up field as well as quarterback Joe Flacco’s horse-collar tackle attempt.

*Defensive lineman Jarvis Jenkins was shaken up in the first quarter and sustained a sprained right knee. If he misses a lot of time, that would be a huge loss to the defensive line depth. It looked like Darrion Scott was taking Jenkins’ snaps, and it forced Barry Cofield to play in nickel situations.

*The first half had to be beneficial for safety Oshiomogho Atogwe, who started and made his preseason debut. To start the second quarter, he blitzed up the middle and pressured Flacco into a throwaway.

*Running back Tim Hightower’s 37-yard run featured something not seen from a Redskins back in the last few years (save for a couple of Ryan Torain flashes): out-running a defender to the goal line. Hightower showed his cutback ability at the start of the run

*Linebacker Brian Orakpo won’t get an easier sack than the one he had in the second quarter. Safety Reed Doughty blitzed to his outside, and left tackle Michael Oher thought he had help, so he gave Orakpo a shove before moving inside. That help was accounting for Doughty.

*Smart move by special teams coach Danny Smith to have Graham Gano squib a kickoff. The Redskins, like most every team, don’t do live special teams in practice, so the coverage teams need to get work.

*Up and down first half for rookie linebacker Ryan Kerrigan. The up: a sack, the down: two neutral-zone infraction penalties. Young fella was eager to get off the ball. Both penalties came on third down.

*Sav Rocca’s 63-yard punt in the second quarter was pretty much a perfect kick, a bomb that rolled out of bounds at the Ravens' 4-yard line.

*On Flacco’s 33-yard reception to tight end Ed Dickson, Redskins linebacker Rocky McIntosh was beaten in part because he didn’t look for the football.

*Grossman’s second stint was a three-and-out, and he didn’t have a chance on third down. Tight end Fred Davis was in the backfield to pass protect, and he didn’t so much as look at blitzing cornerback Lardarius Webb, who made the sack.

*Late in the first half, rookie DeJon Gomes worked with the starters, replacing Atogwe.

*Cornerback Kevin Barnes sacked Flacco when he was unblocked on a blitz that also rushed Gomes from the same side.

*Judging by the playing time, Roy Helu has the edge over Evan Royster for the final running back spot. Helu started the second half.

*Receiver Terrence Austin keeps making plays. On the second drive of the third quarter, he ran the same route (slant to the middle of the field) for gains of 15 and 28 yards and then scored on a 13-yard catch and run.

*Beck shrugged off an interception to drive the Redskins 97 yards for Austin’s touchdown. Beck was 5-of-6 passing for 75 yards on the possession.
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Despite the loss, in a lot of ways, that was the Redskins best game of the pre-season. Granted, the Ravens played better in the 2nd quarter but for the first quarter we absolutely bullied their defensive line.
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Ohhhh yeaaaa... I agree wit SF55, good work out there and regardless of preseason or not, the Ravens defense DOES NOT back down. We looked like a real professional team out there. I'm not gonna say the negatives, let ya'll handle that but I can't wait until next week vs da Bucs.

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Yea I was giving those ravens fans hell yestaday.. I had on my Shawn Springs jersey (24) so when Hall got the td i was like yeaaaa.. das y i'm rockin a defense jersey bamaz. taylor jersey will only get worn twice a year.
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I like what I saw on offense, but the defense needs some work...actually a lot of work...
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And on the flip side ...

the Ravens have to be REALLY disapointed with how their better players played :D
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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