SkinsJock wrote:Fact is - the players in the playoffs are all that really counts and in the past it was not cool for other posters who are not involved in the playoffs to point out to players that they have made an error (in their estimation) ESPECIALLY not with the "home field" advantage being that said players could in fact change their pick and have every right to do so
As a relatively new Hognoticator, this is my second year, I wasn't aware of that. I realize you said TRO is aware, not me. Ironically for me as someone who didn't want to do the playoffs because I think it's way random compared to the regular season and I'm worn out from picking (will be ready to go though in September), the banter is the fun part of it all. So if you want the games to be serious and the banter not that's the reverse of my preference. But if we agree to unofficial rules of decorum I'll follow those.
I'm at fault for taking JSPB to task the way that I did
In the past - the banter and back and forth kidding was really not something anyone did until after the selections were made - PLUS, I doubt that anyone would have changed their picks based on anything that another poster felt or pointed out
this year we had a differrent set of circumstances, partially due to the fact that many were participating for the first time and guys that were already eliminated were making picks as though they were a part of the process - it's really not a big deal
the "playoffs" have come down to a point's game rather than actually picking the winners and maybe we should try and find a way around that
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:the "playoffs" have come down to a point's game rather than actually picking the winners and maybe we should try and find a way around that
That goes to why I don't think the it's meaningful. In the regular season there are lots of players and lots of games and every week is additive, so there isn't a point in keying off one person until the last week, everyone's picking who they think will win.
But in the playoffs it's two people. The challenger goes first and they are trying to get the "home" player to guess wrong. So they pick all the favorites and the exact number of points they think it'll be. The home team then having the home team isn't likely to pick an underdog and give that advantage to the challenger, so they pick points above or below.
You can't really get "around" that. Our playoffs have nothing to do with the regular season contest and there's no way to make it so other then like fantasy leagues to have the playoffs during the regular season. I prefer to just have the contest go as it does to the end of the year though. I don't like the way we do playoffs, it makes no sense and it can't just be fixed. That's why I didn't want to play, I just wanted to enjoy the games for a change without thinking of how it affects my picks.
I'd say the one good thing about our system is it's so pointless it didn't really distract me from the game.
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I think it's quite "easy" to adjust - the playoff contenders could pick the winners as per the home field system which is used now
BUT the "total points tiebreaker" just needs to be pm'd to the "commish" for the playoffs - he could then "disclose" them prior to the games
that is what happens in the final playoff game here - well almost
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:I think it's quite "easy" to adjust - the playoff contenders could pick the winners as per the home field system which is used now BUT the "total points tiebreaker" just needs to be pm'd to the "commish" for the playoffs - he could then "disclose" them prior to the games
that is what happens in the final playoff game here - well almost
It would be easy, I agree with you on that. And I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I'm not sure I see that as really changing the real flaw in the way the playoffs work. I don't think that can be fixed because there just aren't enough playoff games. Picking is effective when it's across a lot of games. The more limited the number of games the more random the winner becomes. Even the first two weeks are only four games.
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I'm only suggesting a way of making the playoffs not be as much an over/under thing - I'm not trying to stir things up - in the playoffs, where there are limited games, I think it would be more interesting to go with having the tie breaker be just that and it's not hard to have the "contestants" pm the commish their points prediction
I'm totally in agreement that the Hognostication Champion is for the regular season's games and that the 'playoffs' are just a way of staying in play - no big deal at all
btw - my 77 points total prediction was not bad for last w/e
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Congratulations to TeeterSalad and SkinsJock. They'll be competing in Hognosti-Bowl VI.
Just PMing the points doesn't really help. You'd have to PM the entire picks. But that would eliminate HFA, which was earned during the season. And my picks would have to go to another, Lieutenant-Commish.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
Deadskins wrote:Congratulations to TeeterSalad and SkinsJock. They'll be competing in Hognosti-Bowl VI.
Just PMing the points doesn't really help. You'd have to PM the entire picks. But that would eliminate HFA, which was earned during the season. And my picks would have to go to another, Lieutenant-Commish.
thanks
I don't understand - why not make your picks and pm the points only - so that the HFA is only in seeing what picks the 'visiting' player made, but you would not know which way he went as far as the points were concerned, is all I'm saying
hey it's no big deal and in the case where you were involved you'd just send it to another player
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
