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My brother just emailed this to me. I don't know the source, but it's a letter sent by a season ticket holder. Much more eloquent than what I did with the season ticket bill this year...
Mr. Jason Friedman, Vice President
Washington Redskins
1600 FedEx Way
Landover, Maryland 20785
And
Daniel M. Snyder, Owner and Chairman
Washington Redskins
21300 Redskins Park Drive
Ashburn, Virginia 20147
Dear Sirs:
My father and I are in receipt of your letter dated March 23, 2009 in which you are offering to extend our Premium Seating contracts. We reject your offer and will not be extending, renewing or otherwise purchasing season tickets anytime in the near future. This letter is being written to spell out exactly what has led to our decision.
Before I delve into our reasons, I think you should understand the type of fans who are withdrawing their financial support of the football team they love. Both my father and I are lifetime fans of the Washington Redskins. We bleed Burgundy and Gold. To put into perspective what “lifetime” entails, my father, an African American man, was a fan of this team when George Preston Marshall was the owner. I hope I don’t have to explain to you the significance of the previous sentence. We are both accurately described as die-hards. I no longer live in the D.C. area, but in Tampa, Florida and yet I sacrifice time with my children and money to fly home and support the team I’ve loved since my own childhood.
The decision to withdraw our financial support of this team can be summed up in two words: gross incompetence. This is not some knee-jerk reaction. We have watched these front-office decision makers for a decade continually make poor decisions while evidencing no clear plan or direction. We have watched a proud franchise that conducted business properly become a franchise that is more concerned with its public relations spin machine to combat any negative reporting that may contain analysis grounded in fact than it is with fielding a consistent winner. We have watched your decision makers pour dollar after dollar into marketing its big name signees while fielding one of the smallest scouting departments in the NFC.
In short, this decision of ours has come about because of the way the owner of the team refuses to hire a competent personnel man as a general manager and insisting that the team is close to contending. The continued insistence that the current modus operandi works, while the facts have overwhelmingly indicated otherwise is vexing to any fan that knows that the great football teams are built in the trenches. What team puts its head personnel man on a two times per week, two hour radio show? What team has its two top decision makers giving in-depth radio interviews about the draft preparation process the night before the draft? What team only spends three weeks on draft preparation and publicly admits it? What team hires an Offensive Coordinator before having a Head Coach in place and then wonders why none of the potential candidates want the job? I have heard it said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We will no longer be party to this insanity in any financial way. Jersey sales do not win Superbowls gentlemen, talent does. To acquire talent, teams must be proficient in evaluating talent.
For the foreseeable future, my father and I will be withdrawing all financial support of the Washington Redskins, beyond our contractual obligation. We have reached the conclusion that despite protestations to the contrary, this owner does not really care about fielding a consistent winner. That the Redskins belt buckle and lifetime fan mantra is merely another marketing gimmick and that ultimately the only thing that will motivate this team to make meaningful changes in its front office culture is the loss of the almighty dollar. You have lost ours. We will not purchase your food, we will not purchase your officially licensed merchandise, and we will not purchase anything that will contribute to the wealth of the front office beyond your proportional share of the DirecTV Sunday Ticket revenue. You see, not even the dysfunctional way this franchise is being run can dampen the love we have for this team, but you must get the message that the status quo is unacceptable to us. I will no longer sacrifice the time and energy to watch you field an inferior product.
Sincerely,
Mr. Jason Friedman, Vice President
Washington Redskins
1600 FedEx Way
Landover, Maryland 20785
And
Daniel M. Snyder, Owner and Chairman
Washington Redskins
21300 Redskins Park Drive
Ashburn, Virginia 20147
Dear Sirs:
My father and I are in receipt of your letter dated March 23, 2009 in which you are offering to extend our Premium Seating contracts. We reject your offer and will not be extending, renewing or otherwise purchasing season tickets anytime in the near future. This letter is being written to spell out exactly what has led to our decision.
Before I delve into our reasons, I think you should understand the type of fans who are withdrawing their financial support of the football team they love. Both my father and I are lifetime fans of the Washington Redskins. We bleed Burgundy and Gold. To put into perspective what “lifetime” entails, my father, an African American man, was a fan of this team when George Preston Marshall was the owner. I hope I don’t have to explain to you the significance of the previous sentence. We are both accurately described as die-hards. I no longer live in the D.C. area, but in Tampa, Florida and yet I sacrifice time with my children and money to fly home and support the team I’ve loved since my own childhood.
The decision to withdraw our financial support of this team can be summed up in two words: gross incompetence. This is not some knee-jerk reaction. We have watched these front-office decision makers for a decade continually make poor decisions while evidencing no clear plan or direction. We have watched a proud franchise that conducted business properly become a franchise that is more concerned with its public relations spin machine to combat any negative reporting that may contain analysis grounded in fact than it is with fielding a consistent winner. We have watched your decision makers pour dollar after dollar into marketing its big name signees while fielding one of the smallest scouting departments in the NFC.
In short, this decision of ours has come about because of the way the owner of the team refuses to hire a competent personnel man as a general manager and insisting that the team is close to contending. The continued insistence that the current modus operandi works, while the facts have overwhelmingly indicated otherwise is vexing to any fan that knows that the great football teams are built in the trenches. What team puts its head personnel man on a two times per week, two hour radio show? What team has its two top decision makers giving in-depth radio interviews about the draft preparation process the night before the draft? What team only spends three weeks on draft preparation and publicly admits it? What team hires an Offensive Coordinator before having a Head Coach in place and then wonders why none of the potential candidates want the job? I have heard it said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We will no longer be party to this insanity in any financial way. Jersey sales do not win Superbowls gentlemen, talent does. To acquire talent, teams must be proficient in evaluating talent.
For the foreseeable future, my father and I will be withdrawing all financial support of the Washington Redskins, beyond our contractual obligation. We have reached the conclusion that despite protestations to the contrary, this owner does not really care about fielding a consistent winner. That the Redskins belt buckle and lifetime fan mantra is merely another marketing gimmick and that ultimately the only thing that will motivate this team to make meaningful changes in its front office culture is the loss of the almighty dollar. You have lost ours. We will not purchase your food, we will not purchase your officially licensed merchandise, and we will not purchase anything that will contribute to the wealth of the front office beyond your proportional share of the DirecTV Sunday Ticket revenue. You see, not even the dysfunctional way this franchise is being run can dampen the love we have for this team, but you must get the message that the status quo is unacceptable to us. I will no longer sacrifice the time and energy to watch you field an inferior product.
Sincerely,
With the Cardinals reaching the Super Bowl, is Dan Snyder officially the worst owner in the league?
The part that still gets me is how he achieved "3rd worst."
I'm not sure what criteria we are using to determine the worst. If we are going just based on wins and losses, then I'm surprised that teams like Cincy, Cleveland, Buffalo, San Fran, Houston, and yes even Arizona didn't make the list.
I know 'Zona made it to the Superbowl...but they did it on a 9-7 record which was their best winning record since 1998 when they also went 9-7. To find the year they had more than 9 wins in a single season you have to go all the way back to 1976! They've only gone .500 or better four times in over 20 years!
If they did it based on least liked, or poor descision makers, than I'm surprised Jerry Jones of Dallas didn't make the list higher, but I guess he gets a pass for how great his team was back in the 90's which is also incidentally the last time they've won a playoff game.
I guess maybe it's because "he's a real football guy," and he allows all of his decisions to be made by "real football guys."
He get's the same pass that JKC and JG got for their run during the 80's because he's got the rings, even if they are over a decade old. Though it seems strange that a guy with so much "natural football guy knowledge" has not been able to repeat the successes that carried his franchise through the 90's.
I know everyone compares the Redskins failures to the successes of New England and Indy and say "if only the Redskins would have..." but Jerry Jones should be a shining example that all glory in this league is fleeting and that it's never as simple as hiring a GM, or a new scouting staff, or getting the right coach, etc..
New England went 11-5 last year and missed the playoffs. I'm reasonably certain they aren't talking about how much they hate their owner.
San Diego went 8-8 and made the playoffs. Again, I'm sure they aren't going after their owner nearly as much as Snyder.
The Redskins went 8-8 but Snyder sucks because he hasn't won a Superbowl in his first 10 years.
But whatever, just focus on the negative, and use whatever arbitrary scoring system to grade him as you see fit. Since that's the case, he should at least be number 1!
Is he so bad that he can't even be the best at being the worst owner?
I'm not sure what criteria we are using to determine the worst. If we are going just based on wins and losses, then I'm surprised that teams like Cincy, Cleveland, Buffalo, San Fran, Houston, and yes even Arizona didn't make the list.
I know 'Zona made it to the Superbowl...but they did it on a 9-7 record which was their best winning record since 1998 when they also went 9-7. To find the year they had more than 9 wins in a single season you have to go all the way back to 1976! They've only gone .500 or better four times in over 20 years!
If they did it based on least liked, or poor descision makers, than I'm surprised Jerry Jones of Dallas didn't make the list higher, but I guess he gets a pass for how great his team was back in the 90's which is also incidentally the last time they've won a playoff game.
I guess maybe it's because "he's a real football guy," and he allows all of his decisions to be made by "real football guys."
He get's the same pass that JKC and JG got for their run during the 80's because he's got the rings, even if they are over a decade old. Though it seems strange that a guy with so much "natural football guy knowledge" has not been able to repeat the successes that carried his franchise through the 90's.
I know everyone compares the Redskins failures to the successes of New England and Indy and say "if only the Redskins would have..." but Jerry Jones should be a shining example that all glory in this league is fleeting and that it's never as simple as hiring a GM, or a new scouting staff, or getting the right coach, etc..
New England went 11-5 last year and missed the playoffs. I'm reasonably certain they aren't talking about how much they hate their owner.
San Diego went 8-8 and made the playoffs. Again, I'm sure they aren't going after their owner nearly as much as Snyder.
The Redskins went 8-8 but Snyder sucks because he hasn't won a Superbowl in his first 10 years.
But whatever, just focus on the negative, and use whatever arbitrary scoring system to grade him as you see fit. Since that's the case, he should at least be number 1!
Is he so bad that he can't even be the best at being the worst owner?
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:Dan needs to take some lessons from the Caps owner who was on the radio the day after their playoff loss giving tons of love to the fans.
Yeah, Ted's a genius. He is beloved by the fans because he really comes across as one of them.
Not some rich guy who owns the team, but the kind of guy you'd bump into at the bar wearing a jersey.
He makes an honest effort to answer all of his fan email. You may only get a few words, but it's the effort that makes all the difference.
I certainly wish Leonsis would buy the team from Snyder but for the moment he's got his sights set on buying the Wizards.
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Bob 0119 wrote:The part that still gets me is how he achieved "3rd worst."
I'm not sure what criteria we are using to determine the worst. If we are going just based on wins and losses, then I'm surprised that teams like Cincy, Cleveland, Buffalo, San Fran, Houston, and yes even Arizona didn't make the list.
I know 'Zona made it to the Superbowl...but they did it on a 9-7 record which was their best winning record since 1998 when they also went 9-7. To find the year they had more than 9 wins in a single season you have to go all the way back to 1976! They've only gone .500 or better four times in over 20 years!
If they did it based on least liked, or poor descision makers, than I'm surprised Jerry Jones of Dallas didn't make the list higher, but I guess he gets a pass for how great his team was back in the 90's which is also incidentally the last time they've won a playoff game.
I guess maybe it's because "he's a real football guy," and he allows all of his decisions to be made by "real football guys."
He get's the same pass that JKC and JG got for their run during the 80's because he's got the rings, even if they are over a decade old. Though it seems strange that a guy with so much "natural football guy knowledge" has not been able to repeat the successes that carried his franchise through the 90's.
I know everyone compares the Redskins failures to the successes of New England and Indy and say "if only the Redskins would have..." but Jerry Jones should be a shining example that all glory in this league is fleeting and that it's never as simple as hiring a GM, or a new scouting staff, or getting the right coach, etc..
New England went 11-5 last year and missed the playoffs. I'm reasonably certain they aren't talking about how much they hate their owner.
San Diego went 8-8 and made the playoffs. Again, I'm sure they aren't going after their owner nearly as much as Snyder.
The Redskins went 8-8 but Snyder sucks because he hasn't won a Superbowl in his first 10 years.
But whatever, just focus on the negative, and use whatever arbitrary scoring system to grade him as you see fit. Since that's the case, he should at least be number 1!
Is he so bad that he can't even be the best at being the worst owner?
I think Arizona would have been one of the worst prior to the last couple of years. Now, with the hiring of Whisenhunt, they have a consistent plan to follow the Pittsburgh model, have shown improvment, and yes made the Super Bowl.
Saying the Pats, missing the playoffs once because their best player goes out in the first game, are similar to the Redskins is ridiculous. Kraft is one of the best owners in the league. I'd send Snyder and 5 #1 picks to New England for Kraft.
Even comparing San Diego to Washington is a poor comparison. San Diego has had a consistent GM that is putting one of the most talented teams in the league on the field year in and year out. San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
With the Cardinals reaching the Super Bowl, is Dan Snyder officially the worst owner in the league?
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SnyderSucks wrote:...
The decision to withdraw our financial support of this team can be summed up in two words: gross incompetence. This is not some knee-jerk reaction. We have watched these front-office decision makers for a decade continually make poor decisions while evidencing no clear plan or direction. We have watched a proud franchise that conducted business properly become a franchise that is more concerned with its public relations spin machine to combat any negative reporting that may contain analysis grounded in fact than it is with fielding a consistent winner. We have watched your decision makers pour dollar after dollar into marketing its big name signees while fielding one of the smallest scouting departments in the NFC.
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If reading a paragraph like this one does not get any realiasation of the PROFOUND DISATISFACTION brewing deep among the hearts and minds of the fan base to all of you posters in this board, I do not know what ever will.
Nobody would ever doubt the loyalty, the love and the support that people like these have for OUR team. Decisions like this one are NOT made easily or without much accumulated frustration and careful consideration.
This is a PRIME example of the loss that we are experiencing as a TEAM and FANS of the Team. You see, for me this decision of these two fans is a terrible loss. For Danny the clown Snyder, those are two extra seats that he must fill in with corporate seats or even opposing team's fans. As long as he SELLS them, he is fine because the bottom line is PROFIT AS A BAD BUSINESS.
If he were a GOOD businessman, he would cultivate the loyalty of all of us. But he does not care about the little guys like these two fans or any of us. It is the OVERALL balance sheet that matters.
How long will it take for some of you to see the true nature of this guy?
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
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So what do you propose, o wise one? I am supposed to act upon someone else's point of view and opinion? Just because I don't disagree with the opinion of an action(s), I should also be a puppet and follow some guy who thinks he's going to change the world by not buying a jersey ? I'm supposed to NOT let my son wear burgundy and gold, or miss an incredible experience with my son because of some business propositions that I really don't care that much about?
You can drink the wine if you like, buddy, but I'm going to continue to love football and the redskins with the same abandon as I have since for as long as I can remember. And I will pass this now family tradition on to my sons.
People get too caught up ion the politics (in which they have no freaking control over in the first place) and forget that this is a spectator sport, for the masses to enjoy. Yes, it's more fun winning, but getting together with some friends, some beer and pizza, and watching my favorite team is much more important to me than lobbying for some crap I can't influence.

You can drink the wine if you like, buddy, but I'm going to continue to love football and the redskins with the same abandon as I have since for as long as I can remember. And I will pass this now family tradition on to my sons.
People get too caught up ion the politics (in which they have no freaking control over in the first place) and forget that this is a spectator sport, for the masses to enjoy. Yes, it's more fun winning, but getting together with some friends, some beer and pizza, and watching my favorite team is much more important to me than lobbying for some crap I can't influence.

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If reading a paragraph like this one does not get any realiasation of the PROFOUND DISATISFACTION brewing deep among the hearts and minds of the fan base to all of you posters in this board, I do not know what ever will.
Nobody would ever doubt the loyalty, the love and the support that people like these have for OUR team. Decisions like this one are NOT made easily or without much accumulated frustration and careful consideration.
Yes, it was truly articulate, and evoked a clear and palpable sense of the pain felt by the writer...
and, of course, it must be exactly what it purports to be. I mean, it's on the internet. It must be true.
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SnyderSucks wrote:San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
Do you think before you write such dreck? Seriously, it's ridiculous.
I can think of a few right off the top of my head, looking at the Chargers' depth chart.
Laron Landry isn't an upgrade over Eric Weddle?
Chris Horton isn't an upgrade over Clinton Hart?

Sellers isn't better than Mike Tolbert?
Orakpo and Carter aren't better than Luis Castillo and Ryon Bingham?
Fletcher isn't better than Tim Dobbins?
Hell, ARE had better production last year at the WR2 spot than Chris Chambers did.
The only positions I'd take the Chargers over the Redskins are QB (obviously), and OLB. Probably O-line, but I don't know the linemen extremely well on the Chargers (and I'd still take Samuels over their best lineman, Marcus McNeill, and I know the Chargers have a huge hole at RT like the Redskins do...). That's it. Even corner, where they have a great corner (I think Cromartie is great) appears to be a toss up, but Jammer is rather average...so I'm not sure that they're a big upgrade over the Redskins' corners.
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PulpExposure wrote:SnyderSucks wrote:San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
Do you think before you write such dreck? Seriously, it's ridiculous.
I can think of a few right off the top of my head, looking at the Chargers' depth chart.
Laron Landry isn't an upgrade over Eric Weddle?
Chris Horton isn't an upgrade over Clinton Hart?ey isn't better (at this point) than Antonio Gates?
Sellers isn't better than Mike Tolbert?
Orakpo and Carter aren't better than Luis Castillo and Ryon Bingham?
Fletcher isn't better than Tim Dobbins?
Hell, ARE had better production last year at the WR2 spot than Chris Chambers did.
The only positions I'd take the Chargers over the Redskins are QB (obviously), and OLB. Probably O-line, but I don't know the linemen extremely well on the Chargers (and I'd still take Samuels over their best lineman, Marcus McNeill, and I know the Chargers have a huge hole at RT like the Redskins do...). That's it. Even corner, where they have a great corner (I think Cromartie is great) appears to be a toss up, but Jammer is rather average...so I'm not sure that they're a big upgrade over the Redskins' corners.


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SkinsFreak wrote:PulpExposure wrote:SnyderSucks wrote:San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
Do you think before you write such dreck? Seriously, it's ridiculous.
I can think of a few right off the top of my head, looking at the Chargers' depth chart.
Laron Landry isn't an upgrade over Eric Weddle?
Chris Horton isn't an upgrade over Clinton Hart?ey isn't better (at this point) than Antonio Gates?
Sellers isn't better than Mike Tolbert?
Orakpo and Carter aren't better than Luis Castillo and Ryon Bingham?
Fletcher isn't better than Tim Dobbins?
Hell, ARE had better production last year at the WR2 spot than Chris Chambers did.
The only positions I'd take the Chargers over the Redskins are QB (obviously), and OLB. Probably O-line, but I don't know the linemen extremely well on the Chargers (and I'd still take Samuels over their best lineman, Marcus McNeill, and I know the Chargers have a huge hole at RT like the Redskins do...). That's it. Even corner, where they have a great corner (I think Cromartie is great) appears to be a toss up, but Jammer is rather average...so I'm not sure that they're a big upgrade over the Redskins' corners.
"Think" before they post? Damn, what a concept.
Hey if it wasn't for us idiots, who'd make you look smart?

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PulpExposure wrote:SnyderSucks wrote:San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
Do you think before you write such dreck? Seriously, it's ridiculous.
I can think of a few right off the top of my head, looking at the Chargers' depth chart.
Laron Landry isn't an upgrade over Eric Weddle?
Chris Horton isn't an upgrade over Clinton Hart?ey isn't better (at this point) than Antonio Gates?
Sellers isn't better than Mike Tolbert?
Orakpo and Carter aren't better than Luis Castillo and Ryon Bingham?
Fletcher isn't better than Tim Dobbins?
Hell, ARE had better production last year at the WR2 spot than Chris Chambers did.
The only positions I'd take the Chargers over the Redskins are QB (obviously), and OLB. Probably O-line, but I don't know the linemen extremely well on the Chargers (and I'd still take Samuels over their best lineman, Marcus McNeill, and I know the Chargers have a huge hole at RT like the Redskins do...). That's it. Even corner, where they have a great corner (I think Cromartie is great) appears to be a toss up, but Jammer is rather average...so I'm not sure that they're a big upgrade over the Redskins' corners.
What about letting one of the best backs in the league go east to Atlanta last off-season. Then paying that one year wonder top 10 money while still not figuring ot what to do with LT.
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PulpExposure wrote:SnyderSucks wrote:San Diego won in the playoffs last year, and you would have a difficult time finding one player on Washington's team that would represent an upgrade for San Diego. Albert Haynesworth is the only one I can think of.
Do you think before you write such dreck? Seriously, it's ridiculous.
I can think of a few right off the top of my head, looking at the Chargers' depth chart.
Laron Landry isn't an upgrade over Eric Weddle?
Chris Horton isn't an upgrade over Clinton Hart?ey isn't better (at this point) than Antonio Gates?
Sellers isn't better than Mike Tolbert?
Orakpo and Carter aren't better than Luis Castillo and Ryon Bingham?
Fletcher isn't better than Tim Dobbins?
Hell, ARE had better production last year at the WR2 spot than Chris Chambers did.
The only positions I'd take the Chargers over the Redskins are QB (obviously), and OLB. Probably O-line, but I don't know the linemen extremely well on the Chargers (and I'd still take Samuels over their best lineman, Marcus McNeill, and I know the Chargers have a huge hole at RT like the Redskins do...). That's it. Even corner, where they have a great corner (I think Cromartie is great) appears to be a toss up, but Jammer is rather average...so I'm not sure that they're a big upgrade over the Redskins' corners.
I said an upgrade, not a close match. To be an upgrade, you would have to say that San Diego would trade player for player, plus something else like a draft pick or another player.
Landry is an upgrade.
I like Horton, but he was a rookie with one big game. Struggled in coverage. Not an upgrade.
No,



Can Mike Tolbert gain 1 yard? Sellers can't. On a 53 man roster, the starting fullback may be the most replaceable starter.
Orakpo is a rookie, so saying he is better than anyone before he has played a down is ridiculous. Carter had 4 sacks last year and could not be more poorly suited to play a 3-4 end if he tried. Carter and Orakpo would play Merriman's position in San Diego. Anyone make that trade? Didn't think so. Again, Haynesworth is the only 3-4 player on our line.
Fletcher is good in this system, but it's not like he's a pro bowler. And again, they are in different systems and asked to do different things. Most likely a wash.
The only reason the Chargers haven't gone to the Super Bowl is Norv "we're a young team" Turner. If Merriman was healthy last year, they might have gone in spite of Turner.
As I mentioned, 5 players per team average more yards per reception than Randle El. Please don't mention him as an upgrade to anyone. The only reason he gets any catches is because he runs routes in the "no cover" zone that the defense lets him have and then tackles him. San Diego would want Randle El and a second round pick for Chambers. Or even better, a second round pick and no Randle El.
With the Cardinals reaching the Super Bowl, is Dan Snyder officially the worst owner in the league?
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What a load of bull in that entire post. Because it's simply not worth my time to take each statement apart piece by piece and educate you, I'll pick just one and you can see how far off you truly were.
This is the perfect example of how little research and thinking you truly did before you posted your response.
You're going to say that Fletcher, a guy who since 2001 has had over 100 tackles every season, with 3 different teams (so it's not just this system) is a "wash" with a guy who had a career high 57 tackles last year?
It's simple. If you want to come across as a poster who spews ill-considered garbage and is ignored by the vast majority of posters on this site, continue as you are. However, if you'd actually like to contribute, and become a valuable member of this board, as I think we all think you can be, that pathway is clear. And simple.
Just. Think. Before. You. Post.
Fletcher is good in this system, but it's not like he's a pro bowler. And again, they are in different systems and asked to do different things. Most likely a wash.
This is the perfect example of how little research and thinking you truly did before you posted your response.
You're going to say that Fletcher, a guy who since 2001 has had over 100 tackles every season, with 3 different teams (so it's not just this system) is a "wash" with a guy who had a career high 57 tackles last year?
It's simple. If you want to come across as a poster who spews ill-considered garbage and is ignored by the vast majority of posters on this site, continue as you are. However, if you'd actually like to contribute, and become a valuable member of this board, as I think we all think you can be, that pathway is clear. And simple.
Just. Think. Before. You. Post.
PulpExposure wrote:What a load of bull in that entire post. Because it's simply not worth my time to take each statement apart piece by piece and educate you, I'll pick just one and you can see how far off you truly were.Fletcher is good in this system, but it's not like he's a pro bowler. And again, they are in different systems and asked to do different things. Most likely a wash.
This is the perfect example of how little research and thinking you truly did before you posted your response.
You're going to say that Fletcher, a guy who since 2001 has had over 100 tackles every season, with 3 different teams (so it's not just this system) is a "wash" with a guy who had a career high 57 tackles last year?
It's simple. If you want to come across as a poster who spews ill-considered garbage and is ignored by the vast majority of posters on this site, continue as you are. However, if you'd actually like to contribute, and become a valuable member of this board, as I think we all think you can be, that pathway is clear. And simple.
Just. Think. Before. You. Post.
And he's the Susan Lucci of the Pro Bowl set.

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PulpExposure wrote:What a load of bull in that entire post. Because it's simply not worth my time to take each statement apart piece by piece and educate you, I'll pick just one and you can see how far off you truly were.Fletcher is good in this system, but it's not like he's a pro bowler. And again, they are in different systems and asked to do different things. Most likely a wash.
This is the perfect example of how little research and thinking you truly did before you posted your response.
You're going to say that Fletcher, a guy who since 2001 has had over 100 tackles every season, with 3 different teams (so it's not just this system) is a "wash" with a guy who had a career high 57 tackles last year?
It's simple. If you want to come across as a poster who spews ill-considered garbage and is ignored by the vast majority of posters on this site, continue as you are. However, if you'd actually like to contribute, and become a valuable member of this board, as I think we all think you can be, that pathway is clear. And simple.
Just. Think. Before. You. Post.
According to my friends, I may, occasionally, once in a while, be known to overstate my case. What can I say, I occasionally get overtaken by the spirit of Bill Walton. "That's the worst post in the history of Western Civilization."
With the Cardinals reaching the Super Bowl, is Dan Snyder officially the worst owner in the league?
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VetSkinsFan wrote:So what do you propose, o wise one?
Are you talkin' to me?
I'm the only one here!
I propose to support the Washington Redskins and enjoy the NFL.
I propose NOT to take the snake oil served by the owner and the Front OFfice.
Each person and fan is free to take any actions it considers appropriate to protest (or not) the prevalent mediocrity.
Some fans are willing hostages to the owner. Their loyalty is taken for granted and exploited by the owner. Others are more selective in their choices. To each its own.
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
Snyder's Redskins: 10 years later
By: Rick Snider
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06/13/09 11:07 PM EDT
By: Rick Snider
Examiner Sports Columnist
06/13/09 11:07 PM EDT
A decade of Dan Snyder has left much to be desire by Redskins fans, writes Examiner columnist Rick Snider. (AP)
Dan Snyder celebrated his 10th anniversary of gaining control of the Washington Redskins recently. My how money flies even when not having fun.
Let's take stock of what the Decade of Dan has brought the Redskins since Snyder was approved by NFL owners on June 10, 1999. For more than $1 billion in payroll, the Redskins have managed:
» Six coaches. Bet you can't name them all. Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs and Jim Zorn are easy. Did you remember Terry Robiskie finishing 1-2 in 2000? It would have been Pepper Rodgers had the staff not balked.
» Three general managers/vice presidents. Charley Casserly lasted a week. Joe Mendes gutted out two years. Vinny Cerrato was fired and rehired.
» More than 300 employees departed, including seven public relations directors. Most were fired, laid off or ran out screaming down to the secretaries, guards and groundskeepers.
» Three playoff appearances. Two by Gibbs, both requiring miracle finishes.
» Two postseason wins. Both first-rounders.
» One NFC East title. It was Snyder's first season so he simply inherited the crown after not officially becoming owner until the week before training camp. The bottom line -- Snyder couldn't mess it up.
» Deion Sanders, Jeff George, Bruce Smith, Albert Haynesworth, Shawn Springs, Adam Archuleta, Jason Taylor, Brandon Lloyd -- Snyder shopped at Versace, as Deion said. Too bad most of them were bigger busts than Dolly Parton.
Then there have been plenty of memorable moments.
» Charging fans $10 to watch training camp, including a pair of late-night lovers in the stands and scouts of pro teams whose reports might have been a partial reason for the 0-5 start. The fee lasted one year. It was a nice camp, though. Best stands I ever saw along with the NFL Experience.
» Several messy encounters with fellow NFL owners. Asking Detroit owner William Ford his name and business. Sending Baltimore owner Art Modell a bill for lunch at the game while parking the team busses at the far end of the stadium lots. Telling Baltimore owner Steve Bisciotti to call him "Mr. Snyder."
» Booed by fans during halftime when venturing on the field during a ceremony to honor past players.
Let's just say it has been rarely boring under Snyder, but also seldom successful. Maybe the next decade will be kinder.
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What's-his-face wrote:» Six coaches. Bet you can't name them all.
Of course I can. Robiskie doesn't count. And Schotty was the only one who was fired. This stat looked far more incriminating in 2004 than in 2009, and what's-his-face should get with the times. An overstated point.
What's-his-face wrote:» Three general managers/vice presidents.
Really, only two.
What's-his-face wrote:» More than 300 employees departed, including seven public relations directors.
I think this one is telling. I remember stories of long-time employees booted when Snyder walked through the doors. And I've heard first-hand anecdotes of people who have worked for Snyder and what he is like on that front. I have no respect for him as a business-man, even if he knows how to make money.
What's-his-face wrote:» Three playoff appearances. Two by Gibbs, both requiring miracle finishes.
No, not really. The '05 team was 'better' than their low at 5-6, kind of like Schotty's team was 'better' than 0-5 before they went on their tear. Fans saw this (although there is a funny record on THN from November 2005).
'07 was closer to being a miracle. But we were on pace to make the playoffs before Sean Taylor's injury and death. The recovery to make the playoffs was quite impressive. But What's-his-face is overstating his case here.
What's-his-face wrote:It was Snyder's first season so he simply inherited the crown after not officially becoming owner until the week before training camp. The bottom line -- Snyder couldn't mess it up.
It would be better were he not trying so damn hard. This one paragraph detracts from the rest of his argument, IMO.
Despite all the problems above, I agree with the thrust of the article: Snyder is a continuing problem with the Skins. His track record this past decade is not good.
There have been some good times (something What's-his-face completely overlooks), but another decade like that would be a painful experience. I remain optimistic that things will improve.