OFFICIAL Washington Redskins Draft Day Discussion.

SoulDOut · Post by **SoulDOut** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:53 pm

@RedskinjXd
and we were VERY porous vs the run plays

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:54 pm

Larry English to the Chargers. I had him ranked over Orakpo too. Him and especially Brown were so dang fast and instinctive. Orakpo just isn't as explosive, and when you combine that with his injury history...

NJ-SKINS-FAN · Post by **NJ-SKINS-FAN** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:55 pm

who was ranked higher overall orakpo or ohro, with a link, i cant find one.....

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:55 pm

Yay Orakpo, this is good. Didn't think he would be there at 13.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:00 pm

How did we get so lucky?

The Jets swooped in to get Sanchez, then Orakpo slips to 13, and then Snyderatto actually makes a pick of need!

SoulDOut · Post by **SoulDOut** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:00 pm

NJ-SKINS-FAN
http://www.scout.com/a.z?s=143&p=9&c=12 ... =1&yr=2009
Orakpo 8
Oher 12

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:01 pm

Scottskins wrote:Our OL is already improved from last year with the Dockery signing and better luck with injuries this season. We are also in year two of Zorns playbook, and just Zorn himself having a year under his belt. His 2nd half playcalling was just as much an issue as the team play. I think our offense will be better this year(think as good as we were at our best last year) and our defense will dominate. We might be able to take the East this season.

Great pick Danno!

absolutely happy about the Orakpo pick - but I am just amazed that some here think we are going to be a very good team this year - yes, we are going to have a very good defense but our offense needs a lot of help.

I also am kind of mystified that some think we are even close to having an offense that can consistently score points - I guess the really good news is we picked the best player and were we ever lucky this guy fell to us.

We still need to keep all of next years picks because I think we'll have 3 in the top 70 to 75 picks

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:04 pm

We have a lot of picks next year, but unless Campbell has a great season AND is willing to re-sign, he's gone and we'll be looking for a franchise QB. So if someone is available in a trade or FA great, but if not we're gonna be trying to trade up next season for a QB.

That's part of the reason I'd like to see the Redskins take a flyer on a QB late in the draft.

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:07 pm

I wish we had gotten sanchez too man. I'm also not a huge Orakpo fan.

Campbell will improve this year though (if we can protect him, let's hope that's the focus now), and Snyder will pay whatever it takes to keep him. I think : )

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:09 pm

If Campbell has the sort of season we all think he's capable of that would be great and Snyder will find a way to keep him - but we are not going to have to worry about that, we'll just keep him as our back-up while the new guy gets ready - who knows, we could even be in the running for Tim Tebow :lol:

NJ-SKINS-FAN · Post by **NJ-SKINS-FAN** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:10 pm

SoulDOut wrote:NJ-SKINS-FAN
http://www.scout.com/a.z?s=143&p=9&c=12 ... =1&yr=2009
Orakpo 8
Oher 12

thanks, just saw the take when the denver guy abuse him in the senior bowl.....

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:11 pm

I think we are going to be better than most people here think. People forget that we were a pretty good football team through the middle of the season last year. I think injuries, Zorn going conservative like he did in the 1st Giants game, and the players actually giving up are why we played so poorly the last 8 weeks. I believe Zorn will be much better this year, We won't be so unlucky with inuries, our defense will be attacking instead of defending(better field position and more opportunities) and yes, I think Campbell will be better. I also think Devin and Malcolm will both be a big part of the offense this year too.

I'm not saying we will win the Superbowl, but if the defense is as good as advertised, we could win the division.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:11 pm

now we have to hope that the other picks are also going to be helpful to our team.

at least we have 4 more right now.

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:12 pm

Anyone know anything about Orakpo's character? Please tell me he's a quality guy, not TO like...

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:16 pm

I love the pick. I liked Ayers a little better, but all the experts had this guy as a top 5 or 10 type player. So at 13 we got a steel.

BUT I want to caution everyone! DE's almost never have a good first season. Everyone says that about WRs (and it is somewhat true for them) but DEs almost never play well their first year.

He played mostly on the rt side of the DL, which is where Carter plays. So do we just use Orakpo on passing downs and Daniels or Wynn on 1st and 2nd. That would ease him in and then he could do one thing, pin his ears back and rush the passer!

SoulDOut · Post by **SoulDOut** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:17 pm

an Orakpo search shows our main worry will be his injury to his knee in 07. hopefully its not something that becomes injury problem

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:17 pm

The Eagles trade up two spots for Macklin. I don't think that was necessary but they're getting McNabb some weapons. I wonder if that means the Boldin interest is gone.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:18 pm

would you trade next years first and this years third to move up here and grab OHER too?

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:18 pm

Harvin is available, will Detroit be able to resist? I'd take Oher or Pettigrew

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:19 pm

Scottskins wrote:I think we are going to be better than most people here think. People forget that we were a pretty good football team through the middle of the season last year. I think injuries, Zorn going conservative like he did in the 1st Giants game, and the players actually giving up are why we played so poorly the last 8 weeks. I believe Zorn will be much better this year, We won't be so unlucky with inuries, our defense will be attacking instead of defending(better field position and more opportunities) and yes, I think Campbell will be better. I also think Devin and Malcolm will both be a big part of the offense this year too.

I'm not saying we WILL win the Superbowl, but if the defense is as good as advertised, we could win the division.

I think Zorn will be a much better coach and I think Campbell will be better also - we just have a very old line and we need a QB that is much better than Campbell is capable of being

I disagree with your perception of this team, last year. We were not a very good team the first half! We had a great performance from Portis but we should not have beaten Arizona, Dallas or the Eagles - they played badly, we were definetly not the better team and later in the season we barely won a couple of games we should have easily won IF we were even half way decent and we got beaten by a Bengals team that in my mind was one of the worst teams in the NFL.

The amazing thing is we almost gave away 2 #1 picks for 1 player - we are quite along way from being a very good team let alone competing regularly for the Super Bowl.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:21 pm

More on Orakpo:

http://www.the-hogs.net/blogs/2009/04/25 ... kpo-at-13/

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:21 pm

I read a book for Michael Oher, someone take him!

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:21 pm

i ask again... would you trade next years first and this years third to move up and take OHER now too?

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:23 pm

also, it is official... we will still be able to score on detroit in week 3. they have once again ignored the defensive side of the ball.

SoulDOut · Post by **SoulDOut** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:23 pm

RedskinjXd
i wouldnt trade the 1st rounder but maybe a 2nd... depends really how high up you have to move up to get him

he has a 'mean streak'? lol
http://www.scout.com/a.z?s=143&p=8&c=1& ... 95&yr=2009
if we're going after him, i'd think it'd have to be soon tho