Frankly

[ATV]

I think I'm in love with a gay man.....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/0 ... -nonsense/

[Cappster]

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

I think I'm in love with a gay man.....

Could it be?

THN has its own John Amaeche?

[ATV]

I'm no Cowboy fan.

[Countertrey]

It is important for the Speaker to have this kind of protection and travel. It was certainly appropriate for Speaker Hastert.

Plane provided by USAF for Hastert...


Plane "requested" by Pelosi...


The relative size is about right... if anything, the 757 is larger...

Ah... yeah... The difference can be attributed to what? The G5 has a range that will carry it from DC to SF with plenty of fuel to spare. Where this "refueling in the heartland" thing comes from I have no idea, but it's crap, and, therefore, a non-starter as a "justification" for requesting the MUCH larger and FAR MORE WELL ENDOWED 757. Besides... I'm still trying to figure out how landing at a military base in the heartland comprises a "security risk".

Is Pelosi that much more important than Hastert? ( I mean, other than in her own mind)

[ATV]

From what I understand she only requested non-stop flights and she would be happy flying on commercial planes if the Defense Department would allow her.....

http://mediamatters.org/items/200702090017

What a non-issue brought up by the RNC, when there a people dying in Iraq and billions of dollars being lost for lack of oversight. I think it's sad that some in the public are so suceptible to their tactics. More of the same, really.

My original post was regarding Barney Frank. He doesn't appear in the video until near the end.

[1niksder]

Ah... yeah... The difference can be attributed to what? The G5 has a range that will carry it from DC to SF with plenty of fuel to spare. Where this "refueling in the heartland" thing comes from I have no idea, but it's crap, and, therefore, a non-starter as a "justification" for requesting the MUCH larger and FAR MORE WELL ENDOWED 757. Besides... I'm still trying to figure out how landing at a military base in the heartland comprises a "security risk".

Capt. Herb McConnell, the spokesman for the 89th Airlift wing at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, was quoted by ABC News two days earlier saying that the C-20 is "able to make a coast-to-coast flight at times during the year, but not when there are strong headwinds such as during the winter." Also, on February 8, the Los Angeles Times reported that the aircraft used by Hastert "require[d] ideal weather conditions to make the cross-country trip without stopping to refuel."

Looks like it depends on what time of the year she'll be flying as to weather or not the C-20 can make the flight non-stop.

Is Pelosi that much more important than Hastert? ( I mean, other than in her own mind)

Among the models in the Air Force fleet that Pelosi could use to fly nonstop to San Francisco is the C-37, a 16-seat business jet made by Gulfstream with a range of 5,600 miles.

The C-40B, a military version of the Boeing 737, was built especially to carry members of the Cabinet and Congress, Boeing says. What the company calls the flying "office in the sky" can carry 42 to 111 passengers, depending on its configuration.

None of these planes are as big as the 757 that you posted. As far as her being more important, she's just playing the "the 1st Woman Speaker" card to see how much she can bleed out of it.

[Countertrey]

None of these planes are as big as the 757 that you posted.

Actually, I understand that her request was pretty specific... for a C32. The C32 is the military version of a 757, configured to hold 40 passengers, with a private sitting room, a full suite of communications technology, as well as other "amenities". I find that a tad excessive, in light of precedent.

Looks like it depends on what time of the year she'll be flying as to weather or not the C-20 can make the flight non-stop.

I suspect there is an explaination, but I find that a little curious... the G5 is the choice of business for travel to Europe (there are no refueling stops in the middle of the Atlantic), as well as coast to coast, because of both it's speed AND it's range. That notwithstanding, I still fail to understand why a fuel stop is a "security" concern. It's not as if it will be stopping at "al Zarqawi Memorial Airport".

As far as her being more important, she's just playing the "the 1st Woman Speaker" card to see how much she can bleed out of it.

Oh! That's all? That's a perfectly valid reason, then!

[1niksder]

None of these planes are as big as the 757 that you posted.

Actually, her request was pretty specific... for a C32. The C32 is the military version of a 757, configured to hold 40 passengers, with a private sitting room, a full suite of communications technology, as well as other "amenities". I find that a tad excessive, in light of precedent.

Have you seen what she requested? Or just what was reported?

Looks like it depends on what time of the year she'll be flying as to weather or not the C-20 can make the flight non-stop.

I suspect there is an explaination, but I find that a little curious... the G5 is the choice of business for travel to Europe (there are no refueling stops in the middle of the Atlantic), as well as coast to coast, because of both it's speed AND it's range.

The G5 and the C37 are basically the same plane and I have not seen anywhere that she has said it wasn't suitable

As far as her being more important, she's just playing the "the 1st Woman Speaker" card to see how much she can bleed out of it.

Oh! That's all? That's a perfectly valid reason, then!

I thought she was going to use the women have more luggage bit, but she might have had some help cpming up with this one.

[ATV]

Did you read the link?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200702090017

There has been NO evidence that this ever even happened, other than a conservative newspaper citing "unnamed congressional sources".

In other words, there is no story.

[KazooSkinsFan]

I think I'm in love with a gay man.....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/0 ... -nonsense/

For someone who thinks Shrillery Clinton is hot, this is no surprise.

[KazooSkinsFan]

From what I understand she only requested non-stop flights and she would be happy flying on commercial planes if the Defense Department would allow her.....

http://mediamatters.org/items/200702090017

What a non-issue brought up by the RNC, when there a people dying in Iraq and billions of dollars being lost for lack of oversight. I think it's sad that some in the public are so suceptible to their tactics. More of the same, really.

My original post was regarding Barney Frank. He doesn't appear in the video until near the end.

You wouldn't criticize a Democrat if they were caught on tape molesting children in a kindergarten or robbing a homeless man, would you?

Now if a Republican did this.....

[Irn-Bru]

Don't make fun of Pelosi. She needs that plane so that she can get around the country and fight global warming.