Trade the 53rd pick?

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Trade the 53rd pick?

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I'd be willing to trade down from 53 to later in the 2nd round or very early 3rd round to get another pick or two (in the 3rd or 4th round).

At the bottom of this article is a trade value chart. These charts are used a lot by NFL teams to guage trade values:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8358748

I came up with 4 options:

Trade #53 for:

1) Texans -- 65th & 98th picks (trade value is close -- we give up 370 and get back 373)

2) Jets -- 71st, 103rd & 117th (370 vs 383)

3) Jacksonville -- 60th & 92nd (370 vs. 432)

4) SF -- 68th & 84th (370 versus 420)

These type of trades only occur on draft day...a team like the Jags or 49'ers would need to really love a guy that's still on the board at 53 to give away more value, but it happens.

The Jets have a boat load of picks so they may want to do something like this. They pick 4th, 29th, 35, 71, 97 (comp pick), 103 & 117. Plus, we love dealing with them!

Also remember -- you can't trade compensatory picks.
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I would do it for JAX picks, but they would never do it in returnk, unless they really want someone.

But besides JAX, I highly doubt all the other teams would trade 2 picks for one. They are all in the rebuilding stage and don't really need one player, they need a whole new team.
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Trading down for more picks is a option, Trading the 53rd and next years 3rd could get us into the 1st round. This move has Redskins all over it. Just look at the history, We traded our pick in this years draft to Denver(Gibbs favorite trade partner), They swapped picks with the Jets (the Danny's favorite trade partner). We have always done pretty good when trading with these two teams so why wouldn't the Jets take our 2nd this year and thrid next year.

Better yet... we could keep the 53rd and send them Rock and next years 3rd rounder. That way Ramsey will know Cartwright will have his back and Coles coming across the middle.


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I'd do 4 San Fran
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EA7649 wrote:I'd do 4 San Fran


Well sure, but really would they do it? No.

According to "The Points", they get 370 and give up 420, so why would they do that.

Again, San Fran is one of those teams in the rebuilding stage and I they need to rebuild there whole team, therefore they'd rather have more picks to fill more holes.

And now that I think about it, I might not even want to do that trade, depending on who could still be there at 53. I would rather wait until Draft Day to make that trade because then we could see who is actually there at 53. Say DeMeco Ryans or Thomas Howard slip that far, then I'd rather just pick on of them. However if there are not any "impact" players left, then yes I'd trade down for depth.
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air_hog wrote:
EA7649 wrote:I'd do 4 San Fran


Well sure, but really would they do it? No.

According to "The Points", they get 370 and give up 420, so why would they do that.

Again, San Fran is one of those teams in the rebuilding stage and I they need to rebuild there whole team, therefore they'd rather have more picks to fill more holes.

And now that I think about it, I might not even want to do that trade, depending on who could still be there at 53. I would rather wait until Draft Day to make that trade because then we could see who is actually there at 53. Say DeMeco Ryans or Thomas Howard slip that far, then I'd rather just pick on of them. However if there are not any "impact" players left, then yes I'd trade down for depth.


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As I said in my initial post -- "a team like the Jags or 49'ers would need to really love a guy that's still on the board at 53 to give away more value, but it happens."

None of these trades will happen before the 52nd pick in the draft..they would happen when we're on the clock.

SF might do it if Nolan sees someone still available and he just has to have him -- the guy is a sure fire starter, he really needs to fill a position, etc...

Also, SF might do the trade if we throw in a 6th rounder to boot.

I threw these options out as I think we need DEPTH at OL, CB, S & LB more than anything and getting 2 guys makes more sense to me than one guy. I'm not totally sold that we must have a LB at 53 as I don't see that person starting anyway. Wms doesn't trust rookies -- it took Sean 4 games to start and Sean is a stud S picked 4th or 5th (I forget which) in the draft. What will it take the 53rd pick (maybe the 6th or 7th best LB in the draft) to start under Wms?
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I think we need a starting WLB (or MLB with Marshall moving back to WS). There should be several very good 1's at #53. Unless we can can still get quality dropping down, I think we should stay where we are.
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1niksder wrote:Trading down for more picks is a option, Trading the 53rd and next years 3rd could get us into the 1st round. This move has Redskins all over it.



definatly, i agree 100%
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TincoSkin wrote:
1niksder wrote:Trading down for more picks is a option, Trading the 53rd and next years 3rd could get us into the 1st round. This move has Redskins all over it.



definatly, i agree 100%


Do you really think that trading #53 and next year's 3rd rounder will get us a 1st rounder this year? I'm no draft guru but that doesn't seem right to me.

If the Redskins have their eye on someone and must get to the 1st round, and they're able to do it via this type of trade, I'd be all for it.
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Justice Hog wrote:
TincoSkin wrote:
1niksder wrote:Trading down for more picks is a option, Trading the 53rd and next years 3rd could get us into the 1st round. This move has Redskins all over it.



definatly, i agree 100%


Do you really think that trading #53 and next year's 3rd rounder will get us a 1st rounder this year? I'm no draft guru but that doesn't seem right to me.

If the Redskins have their eye on someone and must get to the 1st round, and they're able to do it via this type of trade, I'd be all for it.


youre most likely right, whatever they trade itll be worth it for a strong wslb in this, our superbowl year!
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#53 & THIS YEAR's 3rd (which of course we don't have) would only get us up to early 2nd round. #35 or 36 overall. Next yrs will bring less.
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