Fullbacks

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:29 pm

I noticed on Redskins.com today that Mike Sellers, Nemo, and Manuel White are now listed as FB. Also, there is no HBs anymore. Cool

ey is now listed as a TE.

Look for more 2 back sets in 2006...

TincoSkin · Post by **TincoSkin** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:41 pm

i wouldnt be surprised if they are just calling cooley a TE and he still plays in a pseudo H back position in some formations.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:46 pm

Nice catch, portis26.

Tinco, I think it's probably something more fundamental than that. The position names are important with respect to the offensive philosophy.

Is this a statement? I think so... a quiet statement, but a statement none the less. My curiosity is definitely peaked. :twisted:

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:53 pm

This seems like big news to me. Visions of Lloyd, Moss, Randal El, Cool

ey, and Portis in at the same time are dancing in my head.

TincoSkin · Post by **TincoSkin** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:58 pm

if this is a subliminal message that al saunders is making his mark already, im all for it! gibbs brought him in and in gibbs we trust.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:22 am

Plus, "making" Cool

ey a TE gives him more competition for the Probowl, but it does define what he is. He would have never made it as a fullback, unless Portis led the NFL in rushing. Normally the PB fullback is a bruising blocker and if you are not a good blocker (ie Alstot or Larry Centers) then you have to catch a lot of passes AND run the ball from time to time. Lets face it I don't see Cool

ey carring the ball very many times and while he is a good blocker he isn't great and the team goes to Sellers when they really need to bang some heads.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:46 pm

This is very exciting news. I always figured that Cool

ey was going to move to more of a TE role with Saunders here. TG created a lot of problems for defenses and set up the rest of the team to thrive. With the weapons we have Cool

ey wont have as big of a burden but he'll definately need to perform well in the role Saunders designates.

However, Id hate to see such a versatile/confusing role to opposing defenses fade away.

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:51 pm

we will have so many weapons that cooley at the TE position wouuld be just as effective. He is going to have a mismatch no matter whose covering him. He is gong to see a lot of single coverages this year because of his offensive company.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:03 pm

Are the Redskins even going to be able to be stopped next season? We might have the best Redskins offense in like 15 years!

Punu · Post by **Punu** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:09 pm

"making" ey a TE gives him more competition for the Probowl, but it does define what he is.

That's exactly what I was gonna say... now he cannot get snubbed by IMO a mediocore TE compared to him for the ProBowl. Also, I'm very excited to see how Coach Saunders uses him... I mean look at what he did for TG.

leatherhead 377 · Post by **leatherhead 377** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:37 pm

In the Saunders system, there is no H-Back. Moving Cool

ey to the conventional TE position (i.e Gonzalez) is just the begining of GOOD things to come. Moving Cool

ey is why there wasn't a bigger push in free agency for a front line TE. The skins already have one! I also see Betts being more involved in the running game, like L.J. Next season will be a special time in Redskin history. Bring on the fireworks.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:26 pm

this is al Sanders offense we run now. There is no h-back I believe. They do run two tight end sets but there is a full back now.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:34 pm

Are we sure that they weren't listed this way before?

edgardiner · Post by **edgardiner** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:15 pm

The 2005 Media guide list Cool

ey as Tight End/H-back.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:19 pm

I also heard where Robert Johnson said on Redskins.com TV that he and Cool

ey will be used as TE's like Gonzalez was.

He mentioned that Gonzalez had 103 catches 2 years ago and they were placing bets on who would catch more balls.

My money is on Cool

ey, but that quote shows that Saunders plans to use then on the LOS as TE's more than they were last year.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:22 pm

leatherhead 377 wrote:In the Saunders system, there is no H-Back. Moving ey to the conventional TE position (i.e Gonzalez) is just the begining of GOOD things to come. Moving ey is why there wasn't a bigger push in free agency for a front line TE. The skins already have one! I also see Betts being more involved in the running game, like L.J. Next season will be a special time in Redskin history. Bring on the fireworks.

With all due respect to everyone involved, Betts is no Larry Johnson.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:01 pm

cvillehog wrote:
leatherhead 377 wrote:In the Saunders system, there is no H-Back. Moving ey to the conventional TE position (i.e Gonzalez) is just the begining of GOOD things to come. Moving ey is why there wasn't a bigger push in free agency for a front line TE. The skins already have one! I also see Betts being more involved in the running game, like L.J. Next season will be a special time in Redskin history. Bring on the fireworks.

With all due respect to everyone involved, Betts is no Larry Johnson.

Thats for sure

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:39 pm

JansenFan wrote:Are we sure that they weren't listed this way before?

100%

ey, Sellers, White were HB
Broughton was RB

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:43 pm

I'm curious to see what Betts can do when given the opportunity.

As far as Robert Johnson- 6'6 270lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Thats sick. I just hope he's got good hands to catch and block. Something interesting is he also went to Aubern.

skinsRin · Post by **skinsRin** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:54 pm

frankcal20 wrote:I'm curious to see what Betts can do when given the opportunity.

As far as Robert Johnson- 6'6 270lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Thats sick. I just hope he's got good hands to catch and block. Something interesting is he also went to Aubern.

Where is Aubern?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:14 am

skinsRin wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:I'm curious to see what Betts can do when given the opportunity.

As far as Robert Johnson- 6'6 270lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Thats sick. I just hope he's got good hands to catch and block. Something interesting is he also went to Aubern.

Where is Aubern?

in Georgegha

leatherhead 377 · Post by **leatherhead 377** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:40 pm

cvillehog wrote:
leatherhead 377 wrote:In the Saunders system, there is no H-Back. Moving ey to the conventional TE position (i.e Gonzalez) is just the begining of GOOD things to come. Moving ey is why there wasn't a bigger push in free agency for a front line TE. The skins already have one! I also see Betts being more involved in the running game, like L.J. Next season will be a special time in Redskin history. Bring on the fireworks.

With all due respect to everyone involved, Betts is no Larry Johnson.

I meant that Betts will be used as a change of pace for Portis a little more often and be involved also with the passing game. Much like L.J and Holmes. Screens/quick-outs/etc..

We all know LJ is a beast, but given the chance, Betts may show-out!

It looks to be an electrifying season

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:50 pm

leatherhead 377 wrote:
cvillehog wrote:
leatherhead 377 wrote:In the Saunders system, there is no H-Back. Moving ey to the conventional TE position (i.e Gonzalez) is just the begining of GOOD things to come. Moving ey is why there wasn't a bigger push in free agency for a front line TE. The skins already have one! I also see Betts being more involved in the running game, like L.J. Next season will be a special time in Redskin history. Bring on the fireworks.

With all due respect to everyone involved, Betts is no Larry Johnson.

I meant that Betts will be used as a change of pace for Portis a little more often and be involved also with the passing game. Much like L.J and Holmes. Screens/quick-outs/etc..

We all know LJ is a beast, but given the chance, Betts may show-out!

It looks to be an electrifying season

A beast last year, wearing diapers the year before!