shawn taylor behind bars?... bowen stays?

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:03 pm

i thought this was kind of interesting. i found it on pro football weekly in the "way we here it" section of the nfc east. what do you guys think about this?

The team at least has to consider the possibility of being without the services of FS Sean Taylor, who faces up to 46 years in prison on charges of felony aggravated assault and a misdemeanor count of battery. Taylor’s case is scheduled to go to court March 20, and there are no scheduled hearings before then. So the team must sit and wait for the outcome — Miami-Dade prosecutor Mike Grieco said he expects it to go to trial — of a case where one of their most talented defenders faces serious charges and jail time and might be unavailable to them next season and possibly beyond. It certainly changes the team’s thinking heading into the offseason. Whereas Matt Bowen ($2 million base salary in 2006), who was relegated to reserve and special-teams duty last season, was expected to be a potential salary-cap victim, the team might be forced to keep him around given that he has experience at both safety spots and would be an adequate fill-in. It also could change the team’s strategy in terms of adding another safety through the draft or free agency as insurance.

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welch · Post by **welch** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:26 pm

who faces up to 46 years in prison

Makes a catchy quote for the sports entertainers, but it's not realistic.

If the team keeps Bowen, it will be because he's good. Consider injuries: you can't have too much depth.

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:48 pm

yeah im not scared about sean missing any time....i need my free seantaylor t shirt to get in soon!

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:48 pm

SEAN Taylor by the way

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:20 pm

I think the chances of him getting off are probably 90-10. His lawyer is just going to be too good. If he was able to get off that DUI the way he did, you know he has good lawyers and I hate to say it but these days it seems like that's all that matters.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:58 pm

I know nothing about the case. I know nothing about the evidence against him so it is certainly premature for me (or anyone) to suggest that Sean Taylor will more likely "get off" or not. I will say this, however: The prosecutor suggests that this case will go to trial? I doubt it.

90% of all criminal cases are pled out and this one is really no different.

Mark my words, as March 20th is approaching, you're gonna hear about a plea being offered (and likely accepted) that will keep Taylor out of jail or, in the alternative, send him to jail for only 3 months . . . so he'll be back by training camp.

Just a hunch.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:10 pm

Justice Hog wrote:that will keep Taylor out of jail or, in the alternative, send him to jail for only 3 months . . . so he'll be back by training camp.

The funny thing is, that might just be the best place for him during the offseason :shock:

I mean, I'd rather him be in jail for 3 pointless months than let him do whatever it is he does in the offseason... :lol:

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:46 pm

Please God... Don't send Bowen back on the field.

Bowen = Has he done anything good since Week 1 in 2004?

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:10 pm

dabear wrote:

FS Sean Taylor, who faces up to 46 years in prison on charges of felony aggravated assault and a misdemeanor count of battery
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If he gets the 46 years, do we take a chnce on him after he's out.....he'd only be like 68 or so.

SCSkinsFan · Post by **SCSkinsFan** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:25 pm

It's a possibility that Bowen was not back to being 100% last year following his surgery in 2004. Maybe another off-season will get him back to being healthy and playing up to the level he was at during the early part of 2004.

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:45 pm

hey smithian... it sounds pretty easy for you to sell out your own guys on your own team. who's side are you on? you got to give them some support. who do you think would be better?

aswas71788 · Post by **aswas71788** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:05 pm

I would not worry to much about the trial. If he is found innocent, it ends there. IF he is found guilty, there will be an appeal. This could drag out in court for a very long time.

It would be a feather in the county attorney generals cap if they won but still there seems to be more not said than said in this case.

Let it run its course before getting to excited about it.

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:38 pm

i just find it hard to believe that we, the fans, really care more about guys being on the field, no matter what their past is. as long as they play, and play well, we support them, even if they are facing jail time.not someone i would have looked up to when i was a kid, or as an adult for that matter, though everyone chimes in that he will "get off." sad.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:48 pm

dabear wrote:i just find it hard to believe that we, the fans, really care more about guys being on the field, no matter what their past is. as long as they play, and play well, we support them, even if they are facing jail time.not someone i would have looked up to when i was a kid, or as an adult for that matter, though everyone chimes in that he will "get off." sad.

Innocent until proven guilty? You live in America dont you? :twisted:

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:14 pm

i do, and i believe there is such a thing called "freedom of speech" as well. I just find it funny to read about who you guys bow down to this kid, year after year, while he stays in the news for all of the wrong reasons. what a joke.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:51 pm

dabear wrote:i do, and i believe there is such a thing called "freedom of speech" as well. I just find it funny to read about who you guys bow down to this kid, year after year, while he stays in the news for all of the wrong reasons. what a joke.

dabear, if you actually were a member of this forum I'd respect your comment but you clearly dont know what you're talking about. If you did your research and knew what you were talking about you'd know that many of us have been severely dissapointed with many of his actions.

You dont know what you're talking about in regards to how many of us feel about his actions, especially the spitting incident.

Regardless of his behaviour he's better than any safety you got.

Why does it matter if he's facing jail time? Were you there? Did you see him do it? He may be 100% innocent for all we know. Just because someone is accused of doing something doesn't mean they're guilty.

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:27 am

kyle orton

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:49 am

i'm not saying the kid is guility, and you are right, i wasn't there, but I do think you guys should prepare in the case he does go away for a while. you never see rodney harrison doing the things he does, or john lynch, or brian dawkins. and i believe mike brown was a pro-bowler this year.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:56 am

dabear wrote:i'm not saying the kid is guility, and you are right, i wasn't there, but I do think you guys should prepare in the case he does go away for a while. you never see rodney harrison doing the things he does, or john lynch, or brian dawkins. and i believe mike brown was a pro-bowler this year.

Who says we aren't? Nobody on this site is part of the coaching staff. Those guys are pro's and just as good if not better than any coaching staff in the league. Do you honestly believe they don't have a plan for this? Are you even aware of the surplus of safeties we already have on our roster? Losing Sean would not be the end of this team. We could do great things without him but of course it'd be easier with him. Even if he left saftey wouldn't be the weak link on our defense, DE would still hold that crown.

John Lynch has had plenty of dirty hits.
Rodney Harrison is known for dirty hits.

Dont make them sound like angels. Sean isn't an angel so why do you continue to prove something that we're aware of. So what that he does those things? What can I or anyone else do about it? The league fined him, the coaches reprimanded him and the world continues to turn. Don't dissapear all of a sudden if someone on the Bears squad throws a fit and does something stupid.

Sean Taylor has the potential the be the best safety in the NFL. He's already in the top 10 if not top 5 going into his 3rd year. Its a shame that he's making it harder on himself.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:34 am

I just hope that Shawn can get passed this with little or no effect on him. This kid as sooooo much potential and I, for one, think that if he can get this behind him, he will start maturing very quickly.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:54 am

Justice Hog wrote:I just hope that Shawn can get passed this with little or no effect on him. This kid as sooooo much potential and I, for one, think that if he can get this behind him, he will start maturing very quickly.

Im not sold on his volatile behaviour and I supported the kid until he spat on that guy. That still disgusts me and I was moreso dissapointed because he had done so well in regards to his behaviour all season long. He doesn't need to spit on people to intimidate them, all he has to do is play.

dabear · Post by **dabear** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:39 pm

lynch, dawkins, and harrison have never been waiting for a trial date either. i'm not talking about this kid on the field, his is a rare athlete, we all know this, i'm talking about the image he sets for himself. i wouldn't want a saftey who didn't deliever dirty hits, they are part of the game, however for all he does on the field, he sets himself up for disaster off of it.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:51 pm

dabear wrote:lynch, dawkins, and harrison have never been waiting for a trial date either. i'm not talking about this kid on the field, his is a rare athlete, we all know this, i'm talking about the image he sets for himself. i wouldn't want a saftey who didn't deliever dirty hits, they are part of the game, however for all he does on the field, he sets himself up for disaster off of it.

Thanks for the revelation :roll:

. So why are so worried about Sean and pointing out the obvious?

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:55 pm

First let me say, Taylor should have been in DC last year instead of hanging with the U.

Second, FOURTYSIX frichen years and nothing was stolen and no one got hurt. Heck the Ray Lewis spent only months in jail, and SOMEONE DIED! But the guy that actually killed him got no jail time! What is worong with this country. To me, the DUI that Taylor had was MUCH worse than him pointing a gun at someone that may have stolen his ATVs!

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:23 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:To me, the DUI that Taylor had was MUCH worse than him pointing a gun at someone that may have stolen his ATVs!

Yeah, tell that to the guy that had the gun allegedly pointed at his head. He's probably still trying to get the stain out of his pants.

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