John Paul given Last Rites

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:06 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/03 ... index.html

I thought that meant he was a goner, but apparently not.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:08 pm

that will be an easy photoshop...

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:20 pm

D'oh!

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:33 pm

Yeah...but I think that's just formality. Hopefully the Pope will be all right. But his days seem to get gloomier every day.

vtfootball07 · Post by **vtfootball07** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:59 pm

Yeah I think his age is finally catching up with him.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:46 pm

Personally, I think it sucks the way he allows the church to use him as a prop. How inspiring could it possibly be to see a beloved pop-culture icon sitting in a window, choking ?

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:51 pm

vtfootball07 wrote:Yeah I think his age is finally catching up with him.

yes you are right
unfortunatley

tazlah · Post by **tazlah** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:27 am

tcwest10 wrote:Personally, I think it sucks the way he allows the church to use him as a prop. ...

Does he "allow" it? Does he choose it? He is still lucid and able to think for himself. He has likened his recent suffering that that of Jesus -- who also suffered very publicly. Not for us to decide what he chooses to do; if the vatican are the spin-doctors here, the pope should be well aware of this too after almost 30 years there. Besides, if he is in fact allowing "the church to use him as a prop", that definitely denotes that it is in fact his choice.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:30 am

Yowsa. It seems like he's on his last leg. Poor guy.

Perhaps now he'll stop waving that Satanic crucifix he carries.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:10 pm

tazlah wrote:
tcwest10 wrote:Personally, I think it sucks the way he allows the church to use him as a prop. ...

Does he "allow" it? Does he choose it? He is still lucid and able to think for himself. He has likened his recent suffering that that of Jesus -- who also suffered very publicly. Not for us to decide what he chooses to do; if the vatican are the spin-doctors here, the pope should be well aware of this too after almost 30 years there. Besides, if he is in fact allowing "the church to use him as a prop", that definitely denotes that it is in fact his choice.

All the big words aside...does that make it right ? Seeing an elderly man choking in an open window ? Is that "inspiring" ? Should the church exercise a little restraint in this case ?

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:45 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Perhaps now he'll stop waving that Satanic crucifix he carries.

And you thought I was being tough on you in Smack before, now that I've see that little comment, game on.

Ask the last feller to get on my bad side here what happened, his handle was Gamble or Gumby or something like that, oh yea, that's right, you can't ask him because he Wicked Witched on us, melting all over the board, and was subsequently banned.

tazlah · Post by **tazlah** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:26 am

tcwest10 wrote:All the big words aside...does that make it right ? Seeing an elderly man choking in an open window ? Is that "inspiring" ? Should the church exercise a little restraint in this case ?

But what if it's a dying man's wish to be able to address his "subjects -- just one last time", be with his family so to say. Not for us to say. I do believe the pope was lucid and able to make decisions up until this morning. If it was his decision to address the crowds 2-3 days before his death, so be it. His decision or not, I don't know, never will. But what if...

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:50 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote: Perhaps now he'll stop waving that Satanic crucifix he carries.

The symbol of Christ is satanic? Or are you referring simply to the bent crucifix?

What a load of crap. Find me a reference to a bent cross being satanic other than the highly controversial work of 'The Broken cross' in which Compton cites only 'catholic sources' as his reference. This is nothing more than faction christian cults imposing guilt on their brood. There is not a solitary reference to the bent cross being satanic that DOESN'T cite Compton as their source... and he himself had no source to speak of. It's pure Hog Wash.

In actuality the bent cross has no ties to practicing satanic worship. Satanists do often use an INVERTED cross to symbolize their opposite values pursued by Satanists. It stems from the fact that Satanists often crucified their sacrifices on an upside down cross.

EVEN the inverted cross is questionable as a true satanic symbol. St.Peter himself was crucified on an upside down cross and christians used the inverted cross as a symbol of St.Peter's martyrdom. There is even an inverted cross on peter's alleged resting place and tomb.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:09 pm

Y'know, I didn't catch that the first time I read this thread...he'd better thank God I'm not an obsessed Bible thumper like other people...

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:31 pm

tcwest10 wrote:
tazlah wrote:
tcwest10 wrote:Personally, I think it sucks the way he allows the church to use him as a prop. ...

Does he "allow" it? Does he choose it? He is still lucid and able to think for himself. He has likened his recent suffering that that of Jesus -- who also suffered very publicly. Not for us to decide what he chooses to do; if the vatican are the spin-doctors here, the pope should be well aware of this too after almost 30 years there. Besides, if he is in fact allowing "the church to use him as a prop", that definitely denotes that it is in fact his choice.

All the big words aside...does that make it right ? Seeing an elderly man choking in an open window ? Is that "inspiring" ? Should the church exercise a little restraint in this case ?

Can we have Michael Jackson dangle him over the balcony?

Hogfather · Post by **Hogfather** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:29 pm

General Failure wrote:Can we have Michael Jackson dangle him over the balcony?

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:31 pm

He kicked about an hour ago, so I guess there will be no balcony dangling.

The Pope, I mean. Not the guy in the funny outfits that's never seen in public.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:37 pm

[quote="General Failure"]He kicked about an hour ago, so I guess there I can bite my tongue no longer... :evil:

How DARE you make fun of Michael Jackson? He made Thriller.

THRILLER.

..actually, yeah, go on ahead.

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:38 pm

I was biting my tounge? That doesn't sound like something I'd do.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:09 pm

UGHHH

Typo's.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:44 pm

I understand that different people may have different religious beliefs or even none. I respect all positions. But I also expect others to respect mine.

Today is a very sad day in my life due to the loss of the Head of my Church. A man that I admire profoundly and worship with all my heart.

I do not expect you to understand it if you do not feel the same way. I only ask sensitivity and respect towards my feelings and the feelings of many millions of people around the entire world who feel the same way.

Thanks in advance.

RiC

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:43 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:I understand that different people may have different religious beliefs or even none. I respect all positions. But I also expect others to respect mine.

Today is a very sad day in my life due to the loss of the Head of my Church. A man that I admire profoundly and worship with all my heart.

I do not expect you to understand it if you do not feel the same way. I only ask sensitivity and respect towards my feelings and the feelings of many millions of people around the entire world who feel the same way.

Thanks in advance.

RiC

you're welcome in advance.

:moon:

another bible thumpin priest who lived it up. a man simply good at his job..... passing around the offering plate. all of em make me sick. wonder if he went north or south? hell, i should become a priest, then i could live in a phat house, and do nothing but spout garbage out of my mouth and sit on my fat ass the rest of the time. My 2 cents

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:19 pm

Don't forget the expensive costumes. Can't forget those. And sometimes interesting headwear.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:17 am

true. i could dress like it were halloween everyday.

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:36 am

hailskins666 wrote:
Redskin in Canada wrote:I understand that different people may have different religious beliefs or even none. I respect all positions. But I also expect others to respect mine.

Today is a very sad day in my life due to the loss of the Head of my Church. A man that I admire profoundly and worship with all my heart.

I do not expect you to understand it if you do not feel the same way. I only ask sensitivity and respect towards my feelings and the feelings of many millions of people around the entire world who feel the same way.

Thanks in advance.

RiC
you're welcome in advance.

another bible thumpin priest who lived it up. a man simply good at his job..... passing around the offering plate. all of em make me sick. wonder if he went north or south? hell, i should become a priest, then i could live in a phat house, and do nothing but spout garbage out of my mouth and sit on my fat ass the rest of the time.

I think deep down, you just like to piss Christians named Ned Flanders off. :shock:

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